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1. PM - Re: ATV spindles (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
2. PM - Re: ATV spindles (Kolesar, Jeremy)
3. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length ()
4. PM - Re: ATV spindles (del magsam)
5. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length (Isablcorky@aol.com)
6. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length (Ellie & Jim Sheen)
7. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length (John Dilatush)
8. PM - Corvair engines in AL (Robert Haines)
9. PM - Re: Corvair engines in AL (Jim Markle)
10. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length (Isablcorky@aol.com)
11. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length (At7000ft@aol.com)
12. PM - ATV Wheels (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
13. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length (Isablcorky@aol.com)
14. PM - Re: Don't need no stinkin shelf (w b evans)
15. PM - Re: Cabane Strut Length (Graham Hansen)
16. PM - Re: Don't need no stinkin shelf (dave rowe)
17. PM - Re: Corvair engines in AL (dave rowe)
18. PM - Re: ATV Wheels (Ellie & Jim Sheen)
19. 07:45 PM - Test, Please Ignore. (Matt Dralle)
20. 07:47 PM - Test, Please Ignore. (Matt Dralle)
21. 07:48 PM - Test, Please Ignore. (Matt Dralle)
22. 07:58 PM - Re: Piets in California?????? (javier cruz)
23. 07:58 PM - Re: GDOFGKZ, the last adventures (Berta)
24. 07:58 PM - Digest and List Browse Fixed! (Matt Dralle)
25. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: Piets in California?????? (javier cruz)
26. 10:24 PM - could (Salvador Kendrick)
27. 11:04 PM - herdsman (Emmett Mcclain)
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Subject: | Re: ATV spindles |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
John: I'm using Heager axels and brakes that I got from AS&S. They come
from the ATV background, but are still removed from what you are doing.
I am using aluminum Douglass ATV wheels and balloon tires. You mentioned
toe in. There was an article in Custom Planes a few months back that had
an excellent article about wheel alignment. They say "NO TOE IN" I built
my gear legs with a tiny amount of toe in, and now I am going to have to
heat up the lower ends to bend the toe in out. Leon S. Hutchinson Ks.
Mostly lurking for the past 6 mos.
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Please remove my address from this list
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ATV spindles
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
John: I'm using Heager axels and brakes that I got from AS&S. They come
from the ATV background, but are still removed from what you are doing.
I am using aluminum Douglass ATV wheels and balloon tires. You mentioned
toe in. There was an article in Custom Planes a few months back that had
an excellent article about wheel alignment. They say "NO TOE IN" I built
my gear legs with a tiny amount of toe in, and now I am going to have to
heat up the lower ends to bend the toe in out. Leon S. Hutchinson Ks.
Mostly lurking for the past 6 mos.
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Please remove my address from this list
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From: lshutks@webtv.net [mailto:lshutks@webtv.net]
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ATV spindles
-- Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
John: I'm using Heager axels and brakes that I got from ASS. They come
from the ATV background, but are still removed from what you are doing.
I am using aluminum Douglass ATV wheels and balloon tires. You mentioned
toe in. There was an article in Custom Planes a few months back that had
an excellent article about wheel alignment. They say NO TOE IN I built
my gear legs with a tiny amount of toe in, and now I am going to have to
heat up the lower ends to bend the toe in out. Leon S. Hutchinson Ks.
Mostly lurking for the past 6 mos.
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
Dale and I made ours 2" longer than plans.
Greg Cardinal in Minneapolis
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane Strut Length
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/31/03 5:36:52 PM Central Standard Time,
> wbeevans@verizon.net writes:
>
> << Jm,
> Mine are to plans. Guess if I had to do it over again, would have made
them
> longer. Corky, yours are longer , aren't they. How does that work out?
> Know lots of guys made them longer. Can all respond?
> walt evans
> NX140DL
> I know, I myself couldn't get in there.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Markle
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: climbing in (the real story)
>
>
> How do the cabane lengths compare the the plans?
> I hope your's are shorter....this doesn't look good..... :-)
> jm >>
>
> My cabane struts are 2" longer than plans. I have yet to install the
slanted
> struts, so I still have the 'X' cables on the right side of the front pit.
> Ya just wanna take a ride bad enough, and you'll get in. At 6', 210 lbs,
I can
> get in, so I might not even go with the slanted struts.
>
> Chuck Gantzer
> NX770CG
>
>
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Subject: | Re: ATV spindles |
Leon
what size douglass wheels did you go with? this is what is planned for my piet
and I'm thinking of going with a taller wheel if it is strong enough.
Del
Leon Stefan <lshutks@webtv.net> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
John: I'm using Heager axels and brakes that I got from AS&S. They come
from the ATV background, but are still removed from what you are doing.
I am using aluminum Douglass ATV wheels and balloon tires. You mentioned
toe in. There was an article in Custom Planes a few months back that had
an excellent article about wheel alignment. They say "NO TOE IN" I built
my gear legs with a tiny amount of toe in, and now I am going to have to
heat up the lower ends to bend the toe in out. Leon S. Hutchinson Ks.
Mostly lurking for the past 6 mos.
Del-New Richmond, Wi
"farmerdel@rocketmail.com"
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
Walt,
Mine are 2 inches longer on 41CC and 2 1/2 inches longer on 311CC.
Corky
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
Corky,
Is 41CC your first or second Piet? Has the 1/2" difference been an inprovement?
From your experience, which do you prefer? Pros and cons ?
I am new to the list. Where are you located?
Are there any other readers that are close to Gettysburg?
Jim Sheen at Gettysburg, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabane Strut Length
Walt,
Mine are 2 inches longer on 41CC and 2 1/2 inches longer on 311CC.
Corky
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane Strut Length
===============================
Mine are only 1" longer than the plans
John
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/31/03 5:36:52 PM Central Standard Time,
> wbeevans@verizon.net writes:
>
> << Jm,
> Mine are to plans. Guess if I had to do it over again, would have made
them
> longer. Corky, yours are longer , aren't they. How does that work out?
> Know lots of guys made them longer. Can all respond?
> walt evans
> NX140DL
> I know, I myself couldn't get in there.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Markle
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: climbing in (the real story)
>
>
> How do the cabane lengths compare the the plans?
> I hope your's are shorter....this doesn't look good..... :-)
> jm >>
>
> My cabane struts are 2" longer than plans. I have yet to install the
slanted
> struts, so I still have the 'X' cables on the right side of the front pit.
> Ya just wanna take a ride bad enough, and you'll get in. At 6', 210 lbs,
I can
> get in, so I might not even go with the slanted struts.
>
> Chuck Gantzer
> NX770CG
>
>
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Subject: | Corvair engines in AL |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
There was a guy from Alabama that left a brief post a few weeks ago on the
Yahoo Corvair group stating that he had engines. He wasn't an airplane guy,
he just had a lot of junk. So after a few emails with him, I decided to
drive down last weekend. I got four 110hp engines, all were complete, three
were '65-'68, one was a '64. I got an extra crank, an extra set of heads,
three 12 row fin oil coolers, an extra set of pushrod tubes, an extra set of
valve covers, two side draft motorcycle carbs, and a gascolator for my
Model-A. It was $400 for the engines, the rest he just loaded into my
truck. At $400, I didn't have the heart to pay him any less.
He still has five 110hp engines in the barn, one '65-'68 (suffix RH), and
the rest are '64 (suffix YN if memory serves me, I was a little overwhelmed
at the time). On the loft of the barn, he said there were additional heads
up there, but I didn't go up to look (the floor was falling through). He
also has an old van parked out back with six engines, two were partial
(missing at least one head), and at least one was low HP. I couldn't check
the others without emptying the van. He also had at least a dozen Corvairs
on his property. My guess is there are a couple of the right cores in
those. The nicest Car on the property, which is not to far off of being
drivable, had a 110 badge on the trunk.
This gentleman is just a good-old-boy who's partied a little hard in his
life. His property was a mess. All the Corvair stuff was from his dad and
he had no interest in it other than selling it. I think he had in the past
twice the quantity of engines but has recently been tearing them down and
selling the aluminum for scrap. What I'm saying here is if you are
interested, you probably should act fast.
A note about the barn. It's full of stuff. There are Corvair cylinders
lying all over the place. There's a few cranks, distributors, pistons and
rods, and other miscellaneous parts just lying around. This doesn't count
the flathead Ford engines parts, old fenders, radios, and countless other
non-Corvair parts that were interesting. The barn is falling apart with
holes in the roof and only about half of it was dry. Don't expect to walk
into a clean shop and have perfect engines sitting on engine stands; wear
boots and get a Tetanus shot first.
Just up the interstate from where he lives is a large utility trailer
manufacturer/retailer. I had a hard time not buying a 16 footer and going
back for more. By the way, four engines in the back is about all a Ford 150
can manage, I white knuckled it all the way home. He wanted to give me a
couple of extra Corvair blocks in case one of my cranks were bad or wrong, I
couldn't take them simply due to the weight in the truck already.
His name was Eric Lippert in Cullman, AL. He's got no phone, but he does
have satellite internet and his email is justeric1agn@yahoo.com. He's a
nice guy, looks like he could use the money, and would like to see these
engines being used as opposed to melted down.
Robert Haines
Du Quoin, Illinois
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Subject: | Re: Corvair engines in AL |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
I have a Silverado if anyone wants to work together to look into what's left and
maybe go load up my truck (and share expenses), let me know....
Jim in Plano.....
And thanks Robert!
-----Original Message-----
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair engines in AL
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
There was a guy from Alabama that left a brief post a few weeks ago on the
Yahoo Corvair group stating that he had engines. He wasn't an airplane guy,
he just had a lot of junk. So after a few emails with him, I decided to
drive down last weekend. I got four 110hp engines, all were complete, three
were '65-'68, one was a '64. I got an extra crank, an extra set of heads,
three 12 row fin oil coolers, an extra set of pushrod tubes, an extra set of
valve covers, two side draft motorcycle carbs, and a gascolator for my
Model-A. It was $400 for the engines, the rest he just loaded into my
truck. At $400, I didn't have the heart to pay him any less.
He still has five 110hp engines in the barn, one '65-'68 (suffix RH), and
the rest are '64 (suffix YN if memory serves me, I was a little overwhelmed
at the time). On the loft of the barn, he said there were additional heads
up there, but I didn't go up to look (the floor was falling through). He
also has an old van parked out back with six engines, two were partial
(missing at least one head), and at least one was low HP. I couldn't check
the others without emptying the van. He also had at least a dozen Corvairs
on his property. My guess is there are a couple of the right cores in
those. The nicest Car on the property, which is not to far off of being
drivable, had a 110 badge on the trunk.
This gentleman is just a good-old-boy who's partied a little hard in his
life. His property was a mess. All the Corvair stuff was from his dad and
he had no interest in it other than selling it. I think he had in the past
twice the quantity of engines but has recently been tearing them down and
selling the aluminum for scrap. What I'm saying here is if you are
interested, you probably should act fast.
A note about the barn. It's full of stuff. There are Corvair cylinders
lying all over the place. There's a few cranks, distributors, pistons and
rods, and other miscellaneous parts just lying around. This doesn't count
the flathead Ford engines parts, old fenders, radios, and countless other
non-Corvair parts that were interesting. The barn is falling apart with
holes in the roof and only about half of it was dry. Don't expect to walk
into a clean shop and have perfect engines sitting on engine stands; wear
boots and get a Tetanus shot first.
Just up the interstate from where he lives is a large utility trailer
manufacturer/retailer. I had a hard time not buying a 16 footer and going
back for more. By the way, four engines in the back is about all a Ford 150
can manage, I white knuckled it all the way home. He wanted to give me a
couple of extra Corvair blocks in case one of my cranks were bad or wrong, I
couldn't take them simply due to the weight in the truck already.
His name was Eric Lippert in Cullman, AL. He's got no phone, but he does
have satellite internet and his email is justeric1agn@yahoo.com. He's a
nice guy, looks like he could use the money, and would like to see these
engines being used as opposed to melted down.
Robert Haines
Du Quoin, Illinois
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
Jim,
41CC is my flying Piet and 311CC is under construction with a few mods I felt
would make flying a Piet a bit more comfortable and inviting.
Am located in Louisiana.
Had a great-grandfather visit Gettysburg for 3 days in July back in '63.
Corky in La
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
Corky
Care to share the modifications you are adding to your second Piet?
After reading Pietenpol articles and this archive for 6 months you start to
see some kind of patterns emerge in the modifications people make or wish they
made after flying for a while. I assume legal liability prevents anyone from
putting the plans into AutoCad, then creating a couple modified plan sets with
the most common mods and additions including:
- increase center strut length
- increase fuse front length
- increase turtle deck height
- jury struts
- seat and shoulder belt installation
- fuselage fuel tank
- bolt/nut sizes
- etc
Also with AutoCad, once everything is in you can rotate the entire fuselage
(or anything else) in 3D and print out perspective views at any angle. That
feature alone would save builders weeks to months of agrivation and wasted wood
and metal. The completed plans would need to be given to Don of course. Since
this idea has been discussed before I assume legal issues prevent it from
happening, but that's OK, we don't want to deprive future piet builders the "design
on the fly" experience and the hours on this newsgroup trying to figure out
where a bracket goes.
Rick Holland
Working on mock cockpit and ribs
41CC is my flying Piet and 311CC is under construction with a few mods I felt
would make flying a Piet a bit more comfortable and inviting.
Am located in Louisiana.
Had a great-grandfather visit Gettysburg for 3 days in July back in '63.
Corky in La
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Hi Dell: I am using 8" tall wheels, 6" wide. 12x21x8 tires for the look
of the old Goodyear Airwheels from the 30's. I would have liked to had
smaller wheels, (J-3's had little bitty sized wheels) but as I recall
8" was the smallest wheel Douglass makes. I'm sure taller wheels would
be plenty strong after watching those ATV's go air borne, then slam down
as hard as they do. My entire landing gear with brakes and tires weighs
48 lbs. Someone on the list once reported that his spoke wheels weigh
18 lbs each without brakes and tires. I'm happy with the results,
especially since I am using the Model A. Leon S. Nickerson Ks.
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
In a message dated 1/5/2004 1:06:47 PM Central Standard Time,
At7000ft@aol.com writes:
>
> Sent from the Internet
>
>
>
> Corky
>
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Subject: | Re: Don't need no stinkin shelf |
Rick,
My two cents is to build the front like the plans. Maybe thats a very important
part of the structure/strength of the nose. It would be like leaving one or
both of the seat backs out of the structure and adding sling seats. You'd be
removing strength from the "box" structure.
Assuming you are not putting in a nose tank, why don't you put something like a
fwd luggage space. Kind of like Mike Cuy, who put in storage in the center section.
Believe me, it's one of those things that you think about when you're at gross
weight and doing a steep turn over a friends house and pulling some "G's", and
it crosses your mind,,,,"Gee, I hope that nose is strong enough". :
)
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: At7000ft@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Don't need no stinkin shelf
I am building a long fuselage Piet with a corvair engine and therefore don't
believe I need the shelf in the upper front of the fuselage. I plan on using a
full height firewall extending above the top longerons like Mike Cuy's in his
video. Question is how to finish off the upper front of the fuselage.
I am assuming I can just add triangular gussets to the inside top corners (like
those shown on the plans at the bottom corners) and a horizontal cross brace
(maybe 1" x 3/4") between the 2 (#1) front vertical struts just under the top
inside motor mount brackets.
Anyone see any problems with this?
Thanks
Rick Holland
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Subject: | Re: Cabane Strut Length |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
Walt and group,
Back in the 1960's when I made my cabane (we call them
"center section") struts, I didn't know any better and made
them according to the plans.
Access to the front pit is a bit tricky, but I had welded a
step onto the rear tube of the right landing gear leg from
the beginning, thus making the process much easier. In-
deed, without it, I can't imagine how anyone could manage
on their own. There is a technique that one develops early
and, if followed, it too will assist getting aboard.
Once "in the (front) saddle", the height of the wing above
you is of no consequence. And I suspect that a side fuse-
lage door would create an enormous improvement regard-
ing entry and egress, regardless of strut length. I built a steel
tubing fuselage with a door about 10 to 12 inches deep,
and sold the project. The buyer finished it, flew it, and car-
ried lots of different-sized passengers. He said nobody
had trouble getting in or out, even though the struts were
the standard length. Of course, he had the step on the land-
ing gear leg as well as the door. If I were building another
Pietenpol, I would be inclined to use standard length struts
and incorporate a door--even with the wooden fuselage,
which is a bit more difficult to accomplish than with the
steel tubing truss.
But most, it seems, choose to lengthen the struts by a couple
of inches and, in the final analysis, this is easier than installing
a door. Raising the wing will also raise the center of drag, but
that doesn't seem to be a problem with the Pietenpol design
which tolerates such changes rather well.
Something to think about:
If you make your Pietenpol easy for very large (and heavy)
people to get into that front pit, you may be seriously over-
loading a rather small airplane. As the design stands, it has
a built-in loading limitation. Extra pounds result in a signifi-
cant reduction in performance and operational safety. Most
two place lightplanes with similar power are physically larger,
having more wing span and area (eg. Cub, Aeronca and
Taylorcraft), and they can carry a heavier load. Consider-
ing its relatively small size and design antiquity, the old Pieten-
pol does very well--but it needs to be flown carefully with
heavy loads.
Cheers,
Graham (Pietenpol CF-AUN, fun flying since 1970)
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Subject: | Re: Don't need no stinkin shelf |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe <rowed044@shaw.ca>
sounds exactly what I'm doing, had a designer pal look at it, he sees no
problem whatsoever, I'm set up for a Subaru.
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Subject: | Re: Corvair engines in AL |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe <rowed044@shaw.ca>
All I can say is wow!! Sucks to be up here in Canada!!
Robert Haines wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
>
> There was a guy from Alabama that left a brief post a few weeks ago on the
> Yahoo Corvair group stating that he had engines. He wasn't an airplane guy,
> he just had a lot of junk. So after a few emails with him, I decided to
> drive down last weekend. I got four 110hp engines, all were complete, three
> were '65-'68, one was a '64. I got an extra crank, an extra set of heads,
> three 12 row fin oil coolers, an extra set of pushrod tubes, an extra set of
> valve covers, two side draft motorcycle carbs, and a gascolator for my
> Model-A. It was $400 for the engines, the rest he just loaded into my
> truck. At $400, I didn't have the heart to pay him any less.
>
> He still has five 110hp engines in the barn, one '65-'68 (suffix RH), and
> the rest are '64 (suffix YN if memory serves me, I was a little overwhelmed
> at the time). On the loft of the barn, he said there were additional heads
> up there, but I didn't go up to look (the floor was falling through). He
> also has an old van parked out back with six engines, two were partial
> (missing at least one head), and at least one was low HP. I couldn't check
> the others without emptying the van. He also had at least a dozen Corvairs
> on his property. My guess is there are a couple of the right cores in
> those. The nicest Car on the property, which is not to far off of being
> drivable, had a 110 badge on the trunk.
>
> This gentleman is just a good-old-boy who's partied a little hard in his
> life. His property was a mess. All the Corvair stuff was from his dad and
> he had no interest in it other than selling it. I think he had in the past
> twice the quantity of engines but has recently been tearing them down and
> selling the aluminum for scrap. What I'm saying here is if you are
> interested, you probably should act fast.
>
> A note about the barn. It's full of stuff. There are Corvair cylinders
> lying all over the place. There's a few cranks, distributors, pistons and
> rods, and other miscellaneous parts just lying around. This doesn't count
> the flathead Ford engines parts, old fenders, radios, and countless other
> non-Corvair parts that were interesting. The barn is falling apart with
> holes in the roof and only about half of it was dry. Don't expect to walk
> into a clean shop and have perfect engines sitting on engine stands; wear
> boots and get a Tetanus shot first.
>
> Just up the interstate from where he lives is a large utility trailer
> manufacturer/retailer. I had a hard time not buying a 16 footer and going
> back for more. By the way, four engines in the back is about all a Ford 150
> can manage, I white knuckled it all the way home. He wanted to give me a
> couple of extra Corvair blocks in case one of my cranks were bad or wrong, I
> couldn't take them simply due to the weight in the truck already.
>
> His name was Eric Lippert in Cullman, AL. He's got no phone, but he does
> have satellite internet and his email is justeric1agn@yahoo.com. He's a
> nice guy, looks like he could use the money, and would like to see these
> engines being used as opposed to melted down.
>
> Robert Haines
> Du Quoin, Illinois
>
>
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Stefan" <lshutks@webtv.net>
To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ATV Wheels
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
>
> Hi Dell: I am using 8" tall wheels, 6" wide. 12x21x8 tires for the look
> of the old Goodyear Airwheels from the 30's. I would have liked to had
> smaller wheels, (J-3's had little bitty sized wheels) but as I recall
> 8" was the smallest wheel Douglass makes. I'm sure taller wheels would
> be plenty strong after watching those ATV's go air borne, then slam down
> as hard as they do. My entire landing gear with brakes and tires weighs
> 48 lbs. Someone on the list once reported that his spoke wheels weigh
> 18 lbs each without brakes and tires. I'm happy with the results,
> especially since I am using the Model A. Leon S. Nickerson Ks.
>
>
>
>
> Hi Leon.
I just weighed my 19" aluminum rimmed wheel with SS spokes, and 7.25"
steel tube hub (which includes 1.25" extension for a brake disc - but not
the disc), tire, and tube and it weighs 18 pounds. This design is what Mike
Cuy and others have used. It looks beautiful, strong, and is not too heavy.
I am just starting to fabricate the "original Jenny style" straight axle
gear.
Good luck and have fun,
Jim Sheen
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Subject: | Re: ets in California?????? |
Hi Piets
I am back at home and work after a very good vacations on Ca, i want to thanks
to Jim for show me his project (very kind gentleman), i have the chance for visit
the Hiller Aviation Museum, and they have a Piet and other old planes, great
place...let me try to atach a picture of the Piet..
PICT0126
Javier Cruz
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Subject: | and List Browse Fixed! |
Dear Tailwind and Pietenpol Listers,
I've finally located a bug in the recent modification to List processing
code that enabled the passing of enclosures. It was causing some problems
with the List Browse feature as well as the Digest mode.
Things should be working correctly now. Sorry I didn't test that better!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
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Subject: | Re: Piets in California?????? |
Hi Friends
This is the Piet on Hiller Aviation Museum, looks
good..
By the way, i want to thanks to Jim for show me his
project, so the good time talking about Piets
Very kind people
JavierCruz
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