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1. 04:45 AM - Die Springs (Isablcorky@aol.com)
2. 04:58 AM - Nearly 7 are complete ! and the 75th Anniv. (Michael D Cuy)
3. 05:46 AM - Thanks... Junk Mail & "4-Sale" (KRSBtv@aol.com)
4. 07:02 AM - Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in a (Rick Holland)
5. 07:29 AM - Re: Die Springs (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
6. 07:33 AM - Graham-- are your cabanes slanted at all or vertical ? (Michael D Cuy)
7. 09:06 AM - Re: Wheels (Richard Navratil)
8. 09:26 AM - Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in ashort fuse Pietenpol (Graham Hansen)
9. 12:13 PM - Re: Graham-- are your cabanes slanted at all or vertical ? (Graham Hansen)
10. 01:15 PM - Re: Wheels (Carl Loar)
11. 04:02 PM - Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in ashort fuse Pi... (Gnwac@cs.com)
12. 05:44 PM - Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in ashort fuse Pi... (Graham Hansen)
13. 06:05 PM - Re: Wheels (dpaul)
14. 06:09 PM - Re: Nearly 7 are complete ! and the 75th Anniv. (Rcaprd@aol.com)
15. 07:24 PM - Corvair College IS Coming to Ohio! (Kip and Beth Gardner)
16. 08:36 PM - blood, sweat & tears (Brants)
17. 09:51 PM - Re: blood, sweat & tears (Catdesign)
18. 09:55 PM - Re: Wheels (Catdesign)
19. 10:40 PM - Re: blood, sweat & tears (jimboyer@direcway.com)
20. 11:31 PM - Re: blood, sweat & tears (Clif Dawson)
21. 11:40 PM - Re: Re: Wheels (dave rowe)
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Pieters,
Someone last week posted a letter which gave the part number for the die
springs suitable for the Piet landing, split, gear. Would someone please repost
that part number. Thanks
Corky in La
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| Subject: | Nearly 7 are complete ! and the 75th Anniv. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Chuck-- Great data from your Pietenpol survey. What caught my eye is that
of your list, 8 are flying and we are about to almost DOUBLE that number
when these 7 who are nearly complete get done ! We had 17 Piet/GN-1's fly
into Oshkosh in 1999 for the 70th Anniversary of the design. If we are to
go there this year in some organized fashion it might be wise to contact
Bill Rewey in Madison 608-833-5839, (no e-mail) since he has some great
contacts at EAA and Doc Mosher helped bigtime too in 1999.
Then again we could just show up and that would be
that. Dunno. Either way is fine with me---they might just let us do the
no-radio approach (which is wayyyyyyy easier than trying to blend with
normal traffic) if we come in a bunch say from Hartford, WI where we
launched from in 1999. Just some thoughts.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Thanks... Junk Mail & "4-Sale" |
I've benefited very much since reading all the mail in the past month in
regard to building tips, and if I keep the GN-1 I have, or acquire a different
Pietenpol, the mail I have archived from other builder/owners will be a great
help. I'd also like to say thank you to several folks who have passed along
supportive e-mail concerning my parents.
Since joining the list, I have been flooded with spam from the below listed
domains and I have been busy entering these into my mail controls in order to
block the junk mail. I'm not certain how I got on the junk list, but for your
convenience, perhaps you can cut and paste these addresses into your "block"
list and it will help you too.
My GN-1 is otherwise available for $1,000 less than I have in it. I have
$12,500 in the "project" and have given it a good lookover for tweaks and fixes
that need to be done in order to make it a good, safe ship. (I am amazed that
the Atlanta FSDO signed this airplane off in June, 1998...) This airplane has
never been flown. I don't have the time to work on the plane due to other
responsibilities, but I'm confident it would be a good flyer if someone addressed
the issues on the list I have compiled. This "project" includes a freshly
overhauled, yellow-tag Stromberg carb and the Continental A-80 engine has a tad
over
5 hours since overhaul.
For anyone who is interested, I can send a CD showing the discrepancies
found. These are mostly "nickel and dime" tweaks that need attention. My
Pietenpol trailer (useful for hauling many other types of airplanes) is in "like-new"
condition and available for $1,000. It has two axles, wheel ramps and a winch
for loading the Piet on backwards.
The Spam list is below in case you want to block these domains.
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short fuse Pietenpol
| Subject: | Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in a |
short fuse Pietenpol
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@speedtrail.net>
Graham
If you were building another Piet (using the Contenental engine) would
you extend the front of the fuselage 6 inches again? In doing this did
you not have to extend your engine mount?
Thanks
Rick Holland
Graham Hansen wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
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>My Pietenpol was built from the 1933 plans drawn by Orrin Hoopman. The
>fuselage was modified by extending the firewall six inches forward (BHP's
>recommendation when using small Continentals, etc. instead of the Ford A)
>and the width from the firewall back to the rear instrument panel was
>increased by two inches. This allowed more space for the fuselage tank and I
>could have easily made a tank holding at least 17 US gallons. The tank I
>made holds about 15 US gal. and is adequate for the kind of flying I have
>always done. As it is, the airplane's endurance exceeds mine, and I like to
>limit each flight to about 1.5 hours because it isn't very
>comfortable---even though I am about 5' 8" and about 175 lbs. I have always
>used the wing center section as a storage space and have a small lockable
>door on the underside, so 15 gallons is the total fuel capacity.
>
>The original tank was made from 0.028" galvanized steel sheet with folded
>and soft-soldered seams. I couldn't locate any terneplate so used galvanized
>steel. It was heavier than an equivalent aluminum tank, but:
>
>1. It was less costly because I could do the whole job myself with the
>equipment I had at the time.
>2. Repairs could be safely accomplished without using a flame (Never needed
>repair).
>3. The extra weight was tolerable since it was well forward.
>4. It is durable.
>
>This tank lasted for 30 years and I replaced it 3 years ago with an
>identical new one.Years earlier I had used a sloshing sealer which began to
>disintegrate, and bits floating around in the fuel scare me. I removed the
>tank and had it steam cleaned, but the problem persisted. So I built a new
>tank and won't even think of using sloshing sealer in it (I suspect auto
>gasoline is somehow implicated, but have no proof).
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>Regarding trim change with fuel burn, my 85 hp Pietenpol is nose heavy with
>the tank full, so I "trim" with the throttle using about 2350 to 2375 RPM in
>cruise initially and gradually back off as the nose lightens up. However,
>stick forces are so light that it isn't at all burdensome to cruise at any
>RPM one chooses. The above procedure provides a "hands off" condition, but
>only in smooth air. My Pietenpol has never been tail heavy in flight, even
>with the A65 engine (I switched to a C85 after about 115 hours with an A65).
>A friend built a nearly identical airplane from the same jigs and it
>exhibits the typical Pietenpol tail heaviness in flight with an A65 engine.
>We never found out why they were different in this respect. However, both
>are quite nose heavy in a power-off glide, regardless of fuel quantity.
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>Altogether, I am content with the nose fuselage tank and don't hesitate to
>recommend it for the same reasons Mike C. does.
>
>Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN in Camrose, Alberta, Canada)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Corky,
We have assembled our gear with the following part number.
McMaster Carr, part # 9624 K61. Spring tempered steel oval wire 2" hole, 1"rod,
6 inch length, 7/16" X 7/32 wire. Max Load 880 lb. Rate: 392 lbs./inch. This
was an educated guess for the correct rating. Will let you know how it works out
whenever we finish the airplane....hopefully this summer.
See a picture of our gear....
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=188
Best wishes.
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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| Subject: | Graham-- are your cabanes slanted at all or vertical ? |
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Graham-- a pearl of wisdom I had not heard yet from Pietenpol via your
e-mail on extending your fuselage six inches is a real revelation. Since
most Model A Fords keep the cabanes pretty much upright with the heavy
engine helping in that respect, I was curious to find if your wing needed
to be slanted back or perhaps somewhat forward to get your CG to fall in
the proper range. My guess is that they are mostly vertical.
The added benefits of the longer fuselage seem to far outweigh any
negatives. (that I can't think of even) You get more passenger leg room,
more room for a fuel tank or baggage space behind the firewall. Really
interesting.
I know there will be some of the aero engineer types out there downplaying
Graham's Pietenpol-suggested modification to the plans when using a
Continental engine because you'll claim that the nose will wander and it
will be laterally unstable or some such thing, but I've flown Joe Leonard's
GN-1 Aircamper that has a really long motor mount---at least 6" longer than
plans and his plane flies GREAT ! (with a 85 Cont.)
Another example of a great flying short fuse but Loooong motor mount Piet
is Brian Kenny from Ontario, Canada. As I recall his motor mount for his
65 Cont. is a whopping 9" longer than the plans motor mount and Brian never
spoke of any peculiar flying tendencies about his plane. (that he flew to
Brodhead many times before not wanting to hassle with the border crossing
pains)
Mike C.
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Dave
Check this out as a possibility. The attached is 1 1/4" od 4130 axle with 1"id.
The sleeve is 18"x1" solid 4140. The wheel is a new style Harley with sealed
bearings. The bearings have to be removed and replaced with a rear wheel
sealed bearing with 1" opening. The spread on these spokes is approx 4 1/2" but
the spokes are heavy duty.
Warning -- if you need to save weight, this might not be the way to go.
Wheel and tire weigh approx 27 lb ea. 2 wheels tires axle complete 63 lb.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: dpaul
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels
Chris,
Didn't think to take pictures of the wheels. However, the questions you
posed provided the help I needed. I don't think that a
1 1/4" axle will fit through those wheels. Thanks a million. My wheel search
will continue.
Dave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels
Dave:
Got a picture? If so please remember to make the file size small for us dial-up
users.. What bike are they off of? It's had to tell without seeing them.
I think someone else is using the back wheels off a motorcycle as well.
The usual way to build them is a 5 1/2 spacing between spoke flanges so 5"
seems wide enough (If close enough is ok). It's wider then some of the other
wheels people have used. The big question is can you get a large enough axel in
them. Smallest axels I know of are 1" for split gear and 1 1/4 on the strait
axel. Also look at how the casting was designed, your looking for high stress
areas during side loads that might crack a flange or something. Are you
planning on using heavier (thicker) spokes? Will they fit? Finally are YOU satisfied
they will work? If it all looks good to you then give them a try (If
they are not to expensive).
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
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| Subject: | Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in ashort |
fuse Pietenpol
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
Rick,
Yes, I would extend the fuselage 6" forward if I were to build another
Pietenpol, and I would also stay with the 2" wider fuselage.
I used an Aeronca 7ac engine mount which extends 8" forward from the
firewall. It is OK for -8 Continentals, but with the C85-12 sans starter and
generator the magnetos come very close to the firewall. Using a 10" mount
instead of the 8" one would cure this problem and move the mass of the
engine ahead an extra 2".
Graham (CF-AUN)
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| Subject: | Re: Graham-- are your cabanes slanted at all or vertical |
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
Mike C.,
Yes, my cabanes are slanted back. They are aligned approximately with the
slant of the fuselage side truss members directly beneath them. This is
where I arbitrarily set them and have had no need to change them since.
Weight and Balance figures were within reason. Motto: "If it ain't broke,
don't fix it".
Regarding directional instability with the longer forward fuselage, the four
different Pietenpols I have flown (all Continental- powered) exhibited some
instability in yaw. One of the four had the standard fuselage (1933 plans)
with a really long engine mount. When I flew it in 1963, I didn't think it
had a yaw stability problem. It was the first Pietenpol I ever flew and my
only negative impression was that it had sluggish aileron response. (The
builder had altered the stick-to-aileron ratios and, I think, he didn't have
gap seals. The other three a/c have sealed aileron gaps and conform to the
plans. Their aileron response is fine.) He obviously thought it needed more
keel surface aft and installed a larger vertical fin and rudder, but I never
flew it with these mods and don't know how effective they were.
Compared to production lightplanes in the same power/size range, the
Pietenpol seems to be less stable and needs to be flown all the
time---except in still air. But that is part of its appeal: When you fly a
Pietenpol, you are really flying; you don't just trim it and sit back. The
controls are highly responsive and their input forces are light, so a tad of
instability is of no concern, in my humble opinion.
Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN)
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Dave,,, in the for what it's worth dept. ,, I used rear kaw 650 wheels I purchased
at a motorcycle shop here in town.
They had the mechanical brakes with them and that's what I wanted to use. Had to
reverse the cables but that wasn't a
big deal. Little welding and bracket fabrication and they worked fine. Made some
heel petals that fit under the front seat.
I had to machine the bushings and bore out the hubs so they would fit my one and
half inch axles. A little work but after
everything else I've had to do it was no big deal. With the steerable tailwheel
and rudder it has more than enough grab to
turn me on runway. And there is more than enough stopping power to keep me out
of the tail of any of those big dollar aircraft
that may end up in front of me. When I first got them I was concerned about the
weight but keep it light for the most part and
you won't have a problem. My empty wt ended up being 607lbs. ( Surprised me ).
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: dpaul
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels
Chris,
Didn't think to take pictures of the wheels. However, the questions you
posed provided the help I needed. I don't think that a
1 1/4" axle will fit through those wheels. Thanks a million. My wheel search
will continue.
Dave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels
Dave:
Got a picture? If so please remember to make the file size small for us dial-up
users.. What bike are they off of? It's had to tell without seeing them.
I think someone else is using the back wheels off a motorcycle as well.
The usual way to build them is a 5 1/2 spacing between spoke flanges so 5"
seems wide enough (If close enough is ok). It's wider then some of the other
wheels people have used. The big question is can you get a large enough axel in
them. Smallest axels I know of are 1" for split gear and 1 1/4 on the strait
axel. Also look at how the casting was designed, your looking for high stress
areas during side loads that might crack a flange or something. Are you
planning on using heavier (thicker) spokes? Will they fit? Finally are YOU satisfied
they will work? If it all looks good to you then give them a try (If
they are not to expensive).
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
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| Subject: | Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in ashort |
fuse Pi...
Graham,
I' am planning on using Orrin's plans using the long 172" fuse design. Are
you saying that you would extend the fuse firewall an additional 6" (178"
total) then extend the engine mount an additional few inches to accomidate a C85?
Or rather are you saying that you would use the long fuse verse the short and
extend only the engine mount?
Thanks,
Greg Menoche
Delaware
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| Subject: | Re: How you get a 17 gallon nose tank--even in ashort |
fuse Pi...
Greg,
My fuselage is the 1933 "Improved Air Camper" version. It likely is the so-called
"short fuselage" with the front end designed for the Ford Model A engine. I
haven't seen the "long fuselage" plans, so am not familiar with the differences
between it and the earlier fuselages, but it would seem that the later one
would accomodate the lighter small aircraft engines without modifications. I dunno.
Likely there are people on the list who know this, so let's hear from them.
I extended my forward fuselage 6 inches, on the authority of Bernard Pietenpol
himself, because I was going to use a Continental A65 engine. This was his recommendation.
And I used the Aeronca mount because I had one.
My engine mount extends 8 inches forward from the firewall, effectively placing
the engine mounting bosses on the rear of the crankcase 6" + 8" 14" forward
from the 1933 firewall location. Without the extended fuselage, a 14" mount
would be required to match my engine position. Again, I don't know if this is
relevant with the newer "long fuselage" plans.
The only reason why I would like to have a 10" mount is to get more clearance between
the magnetos and the firewall with the C85-12 engine presently installed.
With an A65-8 or a C85-8 engine, the rear case is shallower and there is adequate
clearance with the 8" mount. If you are going to use a C85-12, C90-12 or
0-200 Continental, by all means use the 10" (or greater, as required for balance)
mount. We are talking only about the firewall-forward situation and ease
of servicing here.
Graham Hansen Camrose, Alberta, Canada
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Loar
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels
I am assuming that the width of the landing gear for my straight axle, wood
gear is the same as the plans show for the metal landing gear - Right? The
plans show 56 inches from center of hub left to center of hub right.
Thanks Richard and Carl for your advise concering spoke wheels. It's good
to hear from the "for what it's worth department."
Dave Paulsen - Missouri
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| Subject: | Re: Nearly 7 are complete ! and the 75th Anniv. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
Mike & Group,
I'm going to call Bill Rewey sometime soon, to see how he's been, and to
talk 'Pietenpol' talk with him !! Last year at Oshkosh, Jim Markle and his
sons had Bill, Larry W. and myself over for dinner and brewskys a couple
evenings. Jim's son is a pretty good cook !! Beautiful star lit night, and
Pietenpol talk - Great time !! Bill has Dimple Tape on his prop, and he says
it
definitely helped. I've been considering that stuff for mine, even before I asked
him about it. He doesn't have e-mail, and I need a Pietenpol 'Information
List' from him.
I've been in contact with Doc Mosher, and as always, he offers his help
and support. He is kind of like our 'Oshkosh' connection. The 'No Radio
Approach' sounds like the best way to go. We gotta work on that. He says we can
probably get a front row center at the homebuilt area, but there is No Camping
in that area. There will be POP (Protect Our Planes) people around to keep
an eye on things, when the owner is not present. He's finding out if the EAA
camera plane (might have to be the Bell helicopter to fly slow enough) could
meet us at the half way point of our final leg to Oshkosh, for some Air to Air
shots of a formation of Pietenpols !! Would that be WAY COOL or what !! At
some point during Oshkosh, we will probably all take off and do a fly - by.
I asked him if he would find out if we could fly the flock of Pietenpols over
to Pioneer Field, for a photo shoot in front of the Pietenpol Hanger. He
said he would get started on the Pioneer Airport thing, although he had a feeling
that will be off limits (EAA has these systems, you know).
For this, the 75 th Anniversary Year, I kinda see Brodhead as the usual
laid back, no hassle, renew old friendships and make new ones, Pietenpol Heaven
!! Oshkosh, however, is our place to Shine our beloved design in front of
the masses, especially because the Sport Pilot Issue will have been passed by
then.
Chuck Gantzer
from Trees and Rags,
to Stick & Rudder,
Pietenpols are Forever !!
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| Subject: | Corvair College IS Coming to Ohio! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Group,
I just got off the phone with William Wynne a few hours ago. He has
agreed to do a Corvair College here in northeast Ohio sometime this
summer. We do not have a firm date yet, but are considering either
mid-June following the SAA Fly-In in Illinois, or sometime in late
August.
We should have the date finalized within a week or so. I'll keep
everyone posted.
Would someone please 'boot' this over to the CorvairCraft e-mail list
& ask them to pass the word there as well?
Stay tuned, more to follow...
KIp Gardner
--
North Canton, OH
(where we're having an ice storm currently - a good time to be down
in the workshop)
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| Subject: | blood, sweat & tears |
I just spent the last two hours at urgent care getting whats left of my left middle
finger cotterized... I was working on the piet, slicing off some dried t88
with a utility knife... Guess it's true what they say about a project like
this - it takes blood, sweat and tears. I actually only cut the corner off of
my finger tip but man o man it hurt. went down to the work bench after I got
home and found the finger tip, nail and all. About the size of a puffy dime.
Sorry for the details but I just had to tell the group.
Tom Brant
Brooklyn Park, MN
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| Subject: | Re: blood, sweat & tears |
OUCH!!!!!! Thats got to hurt........been there done that, don't ask I should have
known better.
Instead of a utility knife use a wood sharp chisel. Buy a cheap one (or more) and
swipe it across some 220 grit sand paper every now and then and it will become
your favorite tool for removing glue globs. I bought a set of 4 for around
20 bucks at Home Depot.
Hope your fingers not hurting too much
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Brants
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: blood, sweat & tears
I just spent the last two hours at urgent care getting whats left of my left
middle finger cotterized... I was working on the piet, slicing off some dried
t88 with a utility knife... Guess it's true what they say about a project like
this - it takes blood, sweat and tears. I actually only cut the corner off
of my finger tip but man o man it hurt. went down to the work bench after I
got home and found the finger tip, nail and all. About the size of a puffy dime.
Sorry for the details but I just had to tell the group.
Tom Brant
Brooklyn Park, MN
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Dave:
Do you have the Flying and Glider magazine? The strait axel plans are in there.
A few people have made the gear a bit wider but I don't know if its 56" wide.
Send me your email address so I can send you some stuff off list.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Loar
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels
I am assuming that the width of the landing gear for my straight axle,
wood gear is the same as the plans show for the metal landing gear - Right?
The plans show 56 inches from center of hub left to center of hub right.
Thanks Richard and Carl for your advise concering spoke wheels. It's good
to hear from the "for what it's worth department."
Dave Paulsen - Missouri
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: jimboyer@direcway.com
Tom,
I'm sorry to hear about your finger tip, but don't use a knife to remove
excess glue. Go down to your closest Woodcraft store and get one of their
carbide scrapers, don't remember the brand, but one is triangular about 1"
wide and the wider is about 2" wide. Much safer.
Hope your finger heals well. Cheers, Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Brants <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: blood, sweat & tears
> I just spent the last two hours at urgent care getting whats left
> of my left middle finger cotterized... I was working on the piet,
> slicing off some dried t88 with a utility knife... Guess it's
> true what they say about a project like this - it takes blood,
> sweat and tears. I actually only cut the corner off of my finger
> tip but man o man it hurt. went down to the work bench after I
> got home and found the finger tip, nail and all. About the size
> of a puffy dime.
>
> Sorry for the details but I just had to tell the group.
>
> Tom Brant
> Brooklyn Park, MN
>
>
>
> $8.99/mo! ------
>
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That's a good sized chunk! It's been a while for me.
It's nice to know I'm lucky in something! haha.
I find that files like epoxy a lot. Use a file to cut down
close to the wood then a small scraper. I have a
number of 1" X 2" ones. They love epoxy also and are
much more controlable than chisels. Later, when you
varnish the airframe, these scrapers will level the surface
without taking off the edges, like sandpaper does. Trust
me. It's a very satisfying experience to have the kind of
control and finess these things give you. They just feel
good in your hands.
A little practice and those blobs just seem to melt
away.
http://www.brendlers.net/oldtools/scraping/scraper.htm
http://www.woodzone.com/articles/scrapers/
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=1&page=32672&category=1,310,41069
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe <rowed044@shaw.ca>
Hey any info on the wood gear would be appreciated by myself, and
probably other as well!
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