---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/13/04: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:02 AM - Re: Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s (Doyle K. Combs) 2. 05:46 AM - Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s (Jim Markle) 3. 06:16 AM - Re: Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s (KRSBtv@aol.com) 4. 10:57 AM - Aircamper for Realflight G2 program (DJ Vegh) 5. 11:28 AM - Re: Aircamper for Realflight G2 program (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 6. 12:00 PM - My first flight in a Piet (Norman Stapelberg) 7. 12:06 PM - Re: My first flight in a Piet (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 8. 12:11 PM - Modern Ford -Scout Engine Development (Michael Fisher) 9. 12:50 PM - Re: My first flight in a Piet (Jim Markle) 10. 01:45 PM - Re: Aircamper for Realflight G2 program (dave rowe) 11. 01:48 PM - Re: My first flight in a Piet (dave rowe) 12. 04:06 PM - Re: Aircamper for FS2004 (Michael Conkling) 13. 09:33 PM - Re: My first flight in a Piet (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:29 AM PST US From: "Doyle K. Combs" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s Doyle Combs P. O. Box 421 Lometa, Texas 76853 512/752-9202 Rebuilding a GN1/Piet ----- Original Message ----- From: KRSBtv@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s I managed to lose my list of fellow Texans who are building or have built and are flying Pietenpols and GN-1s. If y'all (Texan for you guys or you all) could resend me your details, I'd be much obliged. I'll not trust the data to a hard drive again but will print out addresses, phone numbers and other contact details to leave in my Rolodex this time. I guess it might be nice to have a list of folks in adjoining states of Oklahoma, New Mexico and Louisiana. Texans and Southerners can resend me the info at KRSBTV@AOL.com (I'd also like to meet owners in Tucson and Phoenix areas since I occasionally make trips there.) I'm hoping to make the rounds across Texas when the weather is a little more favorable, to take some pictures and video. In return, I'll send everybody I visit a CD or DVD of what I compile. It might be handy to compare notes and builder tips and tricks. I'm still in a quandary what to do with my airplane (now named Frankenstein) and I suppose I might get it flying someday (to be flown by the Village Idiot) or I might part it out and sell off components. I might end up with another Piet and "Frankenstein," if I simply go out and buy a flying specimen in the coming weeks... Time will tell. Thanks, Sterling Brooks Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch (5TA6) San Antonio Sectional NOTAMS... Fresh cow chips on runway. Land at your own risk. Pilots flying open cockpit airplane are encouraged to wear goggles upon touchdown... Cow chips tend to splatter everywhere and I have 5 dogs on patrol. Shultzie, the German Shepherd bites!!! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:16 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s Mike King has a completed Air Camper hangered just south of Dallas somewhere around DeSoto Jeff Hill is working on a one piece wing Air Camper up just north of DFW Tom Travis is working on a 3 pce wing Air Camper in Dallas DL Grammont has a completed Corvair powered Air Camper he keeps at the Lancaster Airport (just South of Dallas) Hank Stein has a completed A65 powered Air Camper he keeps in a hanger at his grass strip SW of Ft Worth near Grandview Monte Miller in the Denton EAA club has an ultralight Air Camper Ronnie Wagner's working on an Air Camper in Mena, AR There are several Air Campers at a little field just northeast of Tulsa (I hope to retire some day and add MINE to that gaggle....) John Greenlee in Bowie has a real beauty that WILL fly again some day Larry Neal is working on an Air Camper down SW of Waxahachie Max Davis in Arlington (and his dad) are working on an Air Camper Jim Markle in Plano walked through his garage recently and might have seen something resembling an Air Camper project that hasn't gotten much attention lately There's a steel tube Air Camper fuse in a hanger at Aero Country Airport a bit north of Dallas.....just sitting there collecting dust and the owner won't sell it....what a shame. By the way, several of the above might just show up at Brodhead in 2005...... Jim in Plano ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s I managed to lose my list of fellow Texans who are building or have built and are flying Pietenpols and GN-1s. If y'all (Texan for you guys or you all) could resend me your details, I'd be much obliged. I'll not trust the data to a hard drive again but will print out addresses, phone numbers and other contact details to leave in my Rolodex this time. I guess it might be nice to have a list of folks in adjoining states of Oklahoma, New Mexico and Louisiana. Texans and Southerners can resend me the info at KRSBTV@AOL.com (I'd also like to meet owners in Tucson and Phoenix areas since I occasionally make trips there.) I'm hoping to make the rounds across Texas when the weather is a little more favorable, to take some pictures and video. In return, I'll send everybody I visit a CD or DVD of what I compile. It might be handy to compare notes and builder tips and tricks. I'm still in a quandary what to do with my airplane (now named Frankenstein) and I suppose I might get it flying someday (to be flown by the Village Idiot) or I might part it out and sell off components. I might end up with another Piet and "Frankenstein," if I simply go out and buy a flying specimen in the coming weeks... Time will tell. Thanks, Sterling Brooks Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch (5TA6) San Antonio Sectional NOTAMS... Fresh cow chips on runway. Land at your own risk. Pilots flying open cockpit airplane are encouraged to wear goggles upon touchdown... Cow chips tend to splatter everywhere and I have 5 dogs on patrol. Shultzie, the German Shepherd bites!!! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:50 AM PST US From: KRSBtv@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Texas Pietenpols & GN-1s In a message dated 2/13/2004 7:47:14 AM Central Standard Time, jim_markle@mindspring.com writes: > There's a steel tube Air Camper fuse in a hanger at Aero Country Airport a > bit north of Dallas.....just sitting there collecting dust and the owner > won't sell it....what a shame. > What a Bozo! Has anyone talked to him lately? I'd like to look at this and see if he is willing to part company with it, but if it has been sitting around for sometime, the problem with steel is interior corrosion. That's one of several advantages of wood. Thanks for the info on the builders/owners. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:57:54 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aircamper for Realflight G2 program not completely related to the building of Piet's but it does have to do with our wonderful airplane. I'm contracted with the makers of RealFlight, the RC model simulator program, to make 3D models for their "add-on" packs. The "add-on" packs are released every 6 months or so and contain new planes, flying fields, etc. Last week, I asked if they would let me create a 3D model of the Piet. I just recieved approval yesterday. I know a few of you folks on the list have Real Flight G2. If you do (or even if you don't) I have a couple questions. 1. would you like to see it with the Model A engine/radiator 2. solid axle landing gear or split? 3. motorcycle wheels or standard aircraft wheels? 4. tail skid or tail wheel? I have full range of creativity on these... just would like a little input. Be looking for a Piet in an upcoming Real Flight Add-on. :-) DJ _ = This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:11 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircamper for Realflight G2 program --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com DJ, Although I am not a purest when it comes to my own airplane, I would think that the best tribute to the legacy of Mr. Pietenpol would be to simulate the purest most basic design he started with. Tailskid, model A, short fuselage, single piece wing, etc... The simulator can fly another day without some of the alterations we make to our airplanes in the interest of safety. Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:26 PM PST US From: "Norman Stapelberg" "Serge F. Vidal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: My first flight in a Piet Hi All I had my first flight in my Piet this afternoon, I had some teething problems but everything seems to be going right, I changed the prop and put on a GSC 72"dia ground adjustable, getting 2300Rpm static in flight we get 60mph @2300Rpm and 100mph @2500Rpm, solo rate of climb is 500Fpm and dual is not all that bad either. Got some small changes to do but if all goes well will have my first official lesson on Thursday. Here is a snap shot of the solo take off by my instructor and the second of the take off dual Regards Norman Stapelberg ZS-VJA (116Hrs) South Africa FASI ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:14 PM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My first flight in a Piet --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com WAY TO GO NORMAN!!! Terry B ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:26 PM PST US From: Michael Fisher Subject: Pietenpol-List: Modern Ford -Scout Engine Development --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael Fisher Fred, Thank you for staying in touch. I'd like to attend Sun and Fun at Lakeland in mid-April. Progress on my 116 Cu. inch Ford Escort engine would be faster if I wasn't trying to invert it. This engne, running on a test stand with a Pietenpol mount, should generate some interest. One possibility would be to rent a car and spend some time looking at aircraft. Another possible test bed for the small, direct drive Ford would be a Jodel D-9, but most of the good airframes are in Europe. The only information I have on Scout N701F is the empty weight, indicating that it is probably plans-built. Do you have any other history or Specs. avaiable? Mike ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:52 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My first flight in a Piet --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" This is just TOO COOL!!!! Congratulations! Hey, looks like these pics were taken in the summer!!!! (hehehe, yes, I know, and I would LOVE to be on that side of the equator RIGHT NOW!!!) Fantastic Norman! Jim in Plano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Stapelberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: My first flight in a Piet > Hi All > > I had my first flight in my Piet this afternoon, I had some teething > problems but everything seems to be going right, I changed the prop and > put on a GSC 72"dia ground adjustable, getting 2300Rpm static in flight > we get 60mph @2300Rpm and 100mph @2500Rpm, solo rate of climb is 500Fpm > and dual is not all that bad either. Got some small changes to do but if > all goes well will have my first official lesson on Thursday. > > > Here is a snap shot of the solo take off by my instructor and the second > of the take off dual > > > Regards > Norman Stapelberg > ZS-VJA (116Hrs) > South Africa > FASI > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:54 PM PST US From: dave rowe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircamper for Realflight G2 program <000001c3eb3a$a3601740$631b9341@Spot> <001f01c3f262$41e131a0$0564a8c0@rdci.az.home.com> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe Here's my votes: > > 1. would you like to see it with the Model A engine/radiator: YES > > 2. solid axle landing gear or split?: SOLID > > 3. motorcycle wheels or standard aircraft wheels?: Motorcycle > > 4. tail skid or tail wheel? EITHER Something for MS Flightsim would be cool, I could dogfight an Me-262 . . ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:04 PM PST US From: dave rowe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My first flight in a Piet --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe Congrats, hope to follow this summer!! Keep us posted. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:17 PM PST US From: "Michael Conkling" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircamper for FS2004 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Michael Conkling" Hey Dave, We found a Piet for FS2004 to put in one of our museum exhibits (my day job is as an exhibit tech for a children's science museum in Wichita, KS) from the folks at "Golden Eagle Squadron" ttp://windrfters.com/Stinpage.htm -- we wanted to show flying in the 30's vs. present day for the 100 years of powered flight!! ;-) It has all the right stuff -- spoke wheels, radiator, tail skid, & etc.-- even a pretty respectable Model "A" sound track. In FS2004, you can put your own N-number on the wings & tail. For $12.50 , you also get the 1934 Ford Roadster & a Primary glider to play with. Mike C. Pretty Prairie, KS ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave rowe" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircamper for Realflight G2 program > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe > > Here's my votes: > > > > > 1. would you like to see it with the Model A engine/radiator: YES > > > > 2. solid axle landing gear or split?: SOLID > > > > 3. motorcycle wheels or standard aircraft wheels?: Motorcycle > > > > 4. tail skid or tail wheel? EITHER > > Something for MS Flightsim would be cool, I could dogfight an Me-262 . . > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:33:40 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My first flight in a Piet --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com Norman, Congratulations !! I think we are going to see quite a few First Flights this year !! Chuck Gantzer