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1. 08:12 AM - Re: Wind Tunnel (bike.mike)
2. 08:33 AM - Re: wind tunnel (John Dilatush)
3. 08:37 AM - Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? (Richard Navratil)
4. 08:43 AM - Re: wind tunnel (John Dilatush)
5. 08:52 AM - Wing Tank (Isablcorky@aol.com)
6. 08:56 AM - two questions (Richard Navratil)
7. 09:30 AM - Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo (Michael D Cuy)
8. 09:39 AM - gps in a Piet (Michael D Cuy)
9. 09:47 AM - Re: two questions (Lynn & Doris Knoll)
10. 09:47 AM - Re: two questions (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
11. 10:19 AM - Re: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo (Fred Weaver)
12. 10:37 AM - Re: two questions (Norman Stapelberg)
13. 11:17 AM - Re: two questions (Cy Galley)
14. 11:23 AM - Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? (Cy Galley)
15. 12:19 PM - Give Dick N. a break, guys (Michael D Cuy)
16. 02:01 PM - Re: Give Dick N. a break, guys ()
17. 02:07 PM - Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? (Cinda Gadd)
18. 06:53 PM - Re: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo (Richard Navratil)
19. 06:56 PM - Re: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo (Richard Navratil)
20. 07:59 PM - Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? (Bert Conoly)
21. 09:07 PM - Spring Struts (Rcaprd@aol.com)
22. 09:57 PM - Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? (Clif Dawson)
23. 10:04 PM - Re: Spring Struts (Clif Dawson)
24. 10:07 PM - Spring Struts details are on mykitplane.com.... (Jim Markle)
25. 10:10 PM - Re: Give Dick N. a break, guys (Clif Dawson)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@verizon.net>
Coming right up, Chris, as soon as I install the strain gauges on the flying
wires and getting the multi-channel data link to work. Oh, and finish the
airplane.
----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Bobka
> Mike Hardaway,
>
> You go out and fly around and when you land, please graph out the polar
for
> the FC-10. That will spare us all a lot of work trying to come up with it
> the best we can the more traditional way.
>
> Oh, also, I need the chordwise lift distribution at AOA's from -4 to 19
> degrees to size spars.
>
> I will eagerly await your results.
>
> chris bobka
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wind tunnel
==========================
Well said, Oscar!
==========================
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Bike.Mike asks-
>
> >What is it that you expect to learn by performing a wind tunnel test?
>
> Characteristic curves, man! Graphs of coefficients of lift, and drag! X
> and Y axes, with numbers and things! We nerdy types (I'm an engineer)
live
> for graphs and formulae, and when we can reduce "touchy-feely" to
numerical
> and graphical quantification, then we can dig in with glee. All these
years
> this airfoil has been out there but it was developed by feel and the
> performance results are all empirical. To those of us who live in the
> 'what-if' world, we need graphs and numbers and analyses to slake our
> thirst. To those who are wondering about tweaking the airfoil (please
don't
> kick me off the list), a starting point is needed. That starting point is
> the airfoil characteristics, the graphs, the plots, the numbers! Don't
you
> see?
>
> But you knew that, Mike. You wanted to quash technical discussion out of
> respect for a marvelous and time-proven, grand old dame... the Piet and
her
> enigmatic airfoil. You wanted to keep people from looking under her
skirts,
> from lifting her veil, from seeing her without her makeup on. You wanted
to
> protect her from "modernization", from the ugly hands of those who would
> Rutan-ize her and turn her into something other than what she really needs
> to be for all time, for us who see the design in its 75th year of
successful
> existence, and for builders and pilots not yet even born. I know you,
Mike!
> But cut us engineers a tiny bit of slack and let us play with the
> computers, will ya? It's in our blood...
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? |
MessageI installed the Stearman guage but cut it down to 5" and installed close
to the cabane strut. It also functions as a low point drain. See the attached
pic.
Dick N
----- Original Message -----
From: Gadd, Skip
To: 'pietenpol-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
Max,
Yea, that's the guys.
Skip
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andimaxd@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:25 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
In a message dated 2/19/2004 11:12:44 AM Central Standard Time, Andimaxd@aol.com
writes:
Skip:
Thank you, that sounds like the one! I am not familiar with Snyders. Can
you give me contact info.
This was mounted on the bottom of the tank at about a 45 degree angle, and
seems like it would be the lesser of the evils at this point.
Max
Skip:
I found Snyders Antique Auto Parts on the net... Thanks a bunch !!!
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wind tunnel
============================
But Mike,
It seems that anything which flys and is a parasol wing design is now
referred to as a "Pietenpol". All are built differently, even from the same
plans. It seems to me that we must start from a common denominator, and
this must be accurate numbers from an accurate airfoil. I doubt if all of
our collective flight experience will provide this beginning point. I agree
with Oscar, do it right with accurate and confirmable wind tunnel testing!
John
============================
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@verizon.net>
>
> Oscar,
>
> I have an engineer's heart, too, and I love numbers as much as anyone. My
> concern is that, considering the understanding that I read between the
lines
> on the list, someone will produce numbers that have no relationship to any
> other airfoil numbers. Then I fear that others will use those numbers and
> assume they're gospel. What good are numbers that can't be relied on?
> If someone can resurrect Abbot and Von Donhoff and use their techniques
and
> their old tunnel at Langley, I'll shut up and groove on those beautiful
> drag polars and L/D curves.
> But if a hobbyist carves a 6" approximation of a Piet wing and claims that
> his numbers from a different tunnel can be compared to those of other
> airfoils found in NACA Report 824 and give a valid basis for comparison of
> the Piet wing with those other airfoils in flight, he's blowing smoke
thick
> enough to cloud reason.
> Better numbers can be discerned from the flight testing that has been done
> for years on our "grande dame".
>
> Mike Hardaway
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:11 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: wind tunnel
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Bike.Mike asks-
> >
> > >What is it that you expect to learn by performing a wind tunnel test?
> >
> > Characteristic curves, man! Graphs of coefficients of lift, and drag!
X
> > and Y axes, with numbers and things! We nerdy types (I'm an engineer)
> live
> > for graphs and formulae, and when we can reduce "touchy-feely" to
> numerical
> > and graphical quantification, then we can dig in with glee. All these
> years
> > this airfoil has been out there but it was developed by feel and the
> > performance results are all empirical. To those of us who live in the
> > 'what-if' world, we need graphs and numbers and analyses to slake our
> > thirst. To those who are wondering about tweaking the airfoil (please
> don't
> > kick me off the list), a starting point is needed. That starting point
is
> > the airfoil characteristics, the graphs, the plots, the numbers! Don't
> you
> > see?
> >
> > But you knew that, Mike. You wanted to quash technical discussion out
of
> > respect for a marvelous and time-proven, grand old dame... the Piet and
> her
> > enigmatic airfoil. You wanted to keep people from looking under her
> skirts,
> > from lifting her veil, from seeing her without her makeup on. You
wanted
> to
> > protect her from "modernization", from the ugly hands of those who would
> > Rutan-ize her and turn her into something other than what she really
needs
> > to be for all time, for us who see the design in its 75th year of
> successful
> > existence, and for builders and pilots not yet even born. I know you,
> Mike!
> > But cut us engineers a tiny bit of slack and let us play with the
> > computers, will ya? It's in our blood...
> >
> > Oscar Zuniga
> > San Antonio, TX
>
>
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Pieters,
One of you who lives in Calgary, Alberta was promised a wing tank about a
year ago. Would you please get back to me with a shipping address so I can get
this tank to you. Thanks
Corky in La
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I installed a fuel shutoff valve right at the carb for an emergency shutoff in
the cockpit. I also have a shutoff for the wing tank located on the cabane strut.
I am having problems with the operation of the valve at the carb and am
wondering at this point if it is worth having. Problem is it does not always
fully open or close. I am thinking of getting rid of the cable and leaving the
valve for maint work. I should add that I also have a 4 gal nose tank located
after the wing tank valve which is fed directly from the wing tank. Does
anyone have this type of shutoff ? Is it a good idea?
question 2
I have a hand held Garmin GPS II that I would like to mount behind the wind shield.
Does anyone know if the gps will receive signal thru the fabric of the
wing. Checking it on the ground it works.
Dick N.
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Subject: | Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Dick-- Thank you for posting the photo of your fuel gauge, but more
importantly your plane is looking very complete and very nice. Looks fresh
out of your shop and now in a hangar. Super. Think we'll be seeing a
first flight report in the future from you ? Great to see some folks
making some headway. It can be tough to work in shop time on these
Pietenpols while life happens !
Mike C. enjoying a nice 50 F day in February !!!
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Dick-- I gave in and bought a gps for my birthday a few years ago. It is a
Garmin GPS III Pilot and it works well in the Piet cockpit on my lap. It
works better behind the windshield---especially upon initialization but for
me, that was way too close to my face. ( I use the antenna that comes
with the basic unit--no extra antenna) From time to time my unit will
slip along side my thigh and then it will tell me "poor gps coverage" but
once I bring it up to my lap clipboard it quickly re-acquires position.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: two questions |
Dick,
In Tony Bengelis's book "Firewall Forward" see page 159. He recommends the fuel
shut-off valve be located next to the tank.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: two questions
I installed a fuel shutoff valve right at the carb for an emergency shutoff
in the cockpit. I also have a shutoff for the wing tank located on the cabane
strut. I am having problems with the operation of the valve at the carb and
am wondering at this point if it is worth having. Problem is it does not always
fully open or close. I am thinking of getting rid of the cable and leaving
the valve for maint work. I should add that I also have a 4 gal nose tank located
after the wing tank valve which is fed directly from the wing tank. Does
anyone have this type of shutoff ? Is it a good idea?
question 2
I have a hand held Garmin GPS II that I would like to mount behind the wind
shield. Does anyone know if the gps will receive signal thru the fabric of
the wing. Checking it on the ground it works.
Dick N.
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Subject: | Re: two questions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
You don't want your shut-off valve on the engine side of the firewall. The best
design for fuel shut-off valve is to install it on the aft face of the firewall.
This is to allow the pilot to close the valve in flight in the event of
an engine compartment fire. And, you want it rigged so that there is no question
about the control having enough movement for full open and positive shut-off.
This comes straight out of the FAA regs.
Terry L. Bowden
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Subject: | Re: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
What's with the missing nut on the bolt near the guage?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> Dick-- Thank you for posting the photo of your fuel gauge, but more
> importantly your plane is looking very complete and very nice. Looks
fresh
> out of your shop and now in a hangar. Super. Think we'll be seeing a
> first flight report in the future from you ? Great to see some folks
> making some headway. It can be tough to work in shop time on these
> Pietenpols while life happens !
>
> Mike C. enjoying a nice 50 F day in February !!!
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za>
I fitted my fuel shut off valve to the bulkhead fitting on the fire
wall, then I made up a 4130 0.90" plate which fitted on to the valve, to
that I fitted a rose joint and a stainless steel 1/4" pipe, the pipe
runs through to the rear cockpit, the pipe is run through two guides. In
the rear cockpit it is bent out and a aluminum angle is screwed to the
side wall of the fuselage, this angle acts as a stop, to operate the
shut off valve is as follows lift up and pull back to shut off and visa
versa for fuel on so far it has given no problems.
If need be I can take a snap shot and post to the net. With this mod I
got a increase in fuel flow from 25Lt in 50min to 70Lt in 50min. note no
fuel pump is fitted gravity is used, less contraptions less hang ups.
I use the idea of KIS (Keep It Simple)
Cheers for now
Norman Stapelberg
ZS-VJA (116Hrs)
FASI
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BARNSTMR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: two questions
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
You don't want your shut-off valve on the engine side of the firewall.
The best design for fuel shut-off valve is to install it on the aft face
of the firewall. This is to allow the pilot to close the valve in
flight in the event of an engine compartment fire. And, you want it
rigged so that there is no question about the control having enough
movement for full open and positive shut-off.
This comes straight out of the FAA regs.
Terry L. Bowden
==
==
==
==
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Subject: | Re: two questions |
Locating a valve inside the engine compartment is not a good idea. Why you ask?
Valves leak externally as well as not stopping the flow. I gas leak under the
cowl is not a good thing for fire suppression. Now you are going to say that
many gascolators have quick drains and you are right. When you check the gascolator
for water and dirt you are there with the engine off and you shouldn't
start up unless it is closed and not leaking. Had an old 1963 Skyhawk that
had the gascolater drain on a cable into the cockpit. I noticed that this feature
is no longer used. Don't know if the factory suggested that it be re-located
but not being able to see that it is shut off before starting is not good.
I would remove the valve entirely and place it where it is protected and can
be used from pilot's compartment. It could be lifesaving to be able to shut
off the fuel in case of an in-flight fire.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn & Doris Knoll
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: two questions
Dick,
In Tony Bengelis's book "Firewall Forward" see page 159. He recommends the fuel
shut-off valve be located next to the tank.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: two questions
I installed a fuel shutoff valve right at the carb for an emergency shutoff
in the cockpit. I also have a shutoff for the wing tank located on the cabane
strut. I am having problems with the operation of the valve at the carb and
am wondering at this point if it is worth having. Problem is it does not always
fully open or close. I am thinking of getting rid of the cable and leaving
the valve for maint work. I should add that I also have a 4 gal nose tank
located after the wing tank valve which is fed directly from the wing tank. Does
anyone have this type of shutoff ? Is it a good idea?
question 2
I have a hand held Garmin GPS II that I would like to mount behind the wind
shield. Does anyone know if the gps will receive signal thru the fabric of
the wing. Checking it on the ground it works.
Dick N.
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Subject: | Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? |
MessageNO NUT?
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
I installed the Stearman guage but cut it down to 5" and installed close to the
cabane strut. It also functions as a low point drain. See the attached pic.
Dick N
----- Original Message -----
From: Gadd, Skip
To: 'pietenpol-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
Max,
Yea, that's the guys.
Skip
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andimaxd@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:25 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
In a message dated 2/19/2004 11:12:44 AM Central Standard Time, Andimaxd@aol.com
writes:
Skip:
Thank you, that sounds like the one! I am not familiar with Snyders.
Can you give me contact info.
This was mounted on the bottom of the tank at about a 45 degree angle,
and seems like it would be the lesser of the evils at this point.
Max
Skip:
I found Snyders Antique Auto Parts on the net... Thanks a bunch !!!
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Subject: | Give Dick N. a break, guys |
<003401c3f7cf$bd816290$0600a8c0@laptop>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Dick-- Again-- great looking plane you have there and just a note to say
that it was pretty obvious to me that you are not quite finished with your
project as the cabanes will be painted yet and you'll safety the
turnbuckles when you are ready and you'll put those nuts where they belong
well before your FAA inspection. I see you've already had some
pre-inspection help in critiquing your plane's incompleteness. I just
want to say---nice airplane and congratulations. Thanks for the input on
your fuel gauge to the list too.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Give Dick N. a break, guys |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
No need to worry about Dick N. He is quite skilled on all of this
building stuff and won't fly with a missing nut.
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Give Dick N. a break, guys
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> Dick-- Again-- great looking plane you have there and just a note to say
> that it was pretty obvious to me that you are not quite finished with your
> project as the cabanes will be painted yet and you'll safety the
> turnbuckles when you are ready and you'll put those nuts where they belong
> well before your FAA inspection. I see you've already had some
> pre-inspection help in critiquing your plane's incompleteness. I just
> want to say---nice airplane and congratulations. Thanks for the input on
> your fuel gauge to the list too.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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Subject: | Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? |
Max,
April 2004 CUSTOM PLANES has an article about a 1929 Davis Parasol. There is a
little better picture of the Model A fuel gauge than Snyders web site. The set-up
looks a lot like Dennis Halls Model A Piet, you probably saw at Brodhead.
Skip
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Subject: | Re: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
If weather cooperates, we'll be doing taxi tests this weekend.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> Dick-- Thank you for posting the photo of your fuel gauge, but more
> importantly your plane is looking very complete and very nice. Looks
fresh
> out of your shop and now in a hangar. Super. Think we'll be seeing a
> first flight report in the future from you ? Great to see some folks
> making some headway. It can be tough to work in shop time on these
> Pietenpols while life happens !
>
> Mike C. enjoying a nice 50 F day in February !!!
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
It's an old picture. All done and safety wires on tunbuckles and all nuts
re-checked for at least the third time now.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
<Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> What's with the missing nut on the bolt near the guage?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:29 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dick N.'s Pietenpol photo
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> >
> > Dick-- Thank you for posting the photo of your fuel gauge, but more
> > importantly your plane is looking very complete and very nice. Looks
> fresh
> > out of your shop and now in a hangar. Super. Think we'll be seeing a
> > first flight report in the future from you ? Great to see some folks
> > making some headway. It can be tough to work in shop time on these
> > Pietenpols while life happens !
> >
> > Mike C. enjoying a nice 50 F day in February !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? |
MessageDick, knowing you and your ability, I'd say it's pretty darn obvious that
you have not exactly FINISHED your plane yet.
Well, the "no nut" should go along nicely with the "no safety wire on the turnbuckle"
that some of the resident critics have obviously missed.
Great Job Dick. It's looking really good. Hope to see you at Sun N Fun.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Galley
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
NO NUT?
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
I installed the Stearman guage but cut it down to 5" and installed close to
the cabane strut. It also functions as a low point drain. See the attached pic.
Dick N
----- Original Message -----
From: Gadd, Skip
To: 'pietenpol-list@matronics.com'
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
Max,
Yea, that's the guys.
Skip
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andimaxd@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:25 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
In a message dated 2/19/2004 11:12:44 AM Central Standard Time, Andimaxd@aol.com
writes:
Skip:
Thank you, that sounds like the one! I am not familiar with Snyders.
Can you give me contact info.
This was mounted on the bottom of the tank at about a 45 degree angle,
and seems like it would be the lesser of the evils at this point.
Max
Skip:
I found Snyders Antique Auto Parts on the net... Thanks a bunch !!!
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
Group,
I'm going to switch from plans built bunji struts, to spring struts. I need
the plans to build the spring struts. Doug Bryant told me that there was a
nice drawing in 'Reed Hamilton's Pietenpol Directory'. Does anyone have plans
from this directory, or any plans, that they can e-mail me, or maybe even
attempt a text description with details. Thanks !!
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge? |
Back to the future?? :-)
Clif
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stearman "Dial" type fuel gauge?
Max,
April 2004 CUSTOM PLANES has an article about a 1929 Davis Parasol. There is
a little better picture of the Model A fuel gauge than Snyders web site. The set-up
looks a lot like Dennis Halls Model A Piet, you probably saw at Brodhead.
Skip
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Subject: | Re: Spring Struts |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
What about the ones in the 1933 Flying Manual
for the Sky Scout?
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> Group,
> I'm going to switch from plans built bunji struts, to spring struts. I
need
> the plans to build the spring struts. Doug Bryant told me that there was
a
> nice drawing in 'Reed Hamilton's Pietenpol Directory'. Does anyone have
plans
> from this directory, or any plans, that they can e-mail me, or maybe even
> attempt a text description with details. Thanks !!
>
> Chuck Gantzer
> NX770CG
>
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Subject: | Spring Struts details are on mykitplane.com.... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Check out:
<http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=lndg_gear_spring.jpg&PhotoID=2009>
-----Original Message-----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spring Struts
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
Group,
I'm going to switch from plans built bunji struts, to spring struts. I need
the plans to build the spring struts. Doug Bryant told me that there was a
nice drawing in 'Reed Hamilton's Pietenpol Directory'. Does anyone have plans
from this directory, or any plans, that they can e-mail me, or maybe even
attempt a text description with details. Thanks !!
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: Give Dick N. a break, guys |
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
Which one? :-)
Clif
>
> No need to worry about Dick N. He is quite skilled on all of this
> building stuff and won't fly with a missing nut.
>
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