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1. 08:13 AM - Spring Struts & Center secton fuel gauges (Andimaxd@aol.com)
2. 09:51 AM - Re: Spring Struts (Rcaprd@aol.com)
3. 09:54 AM - Re: Spring Struts details are on mykitplane.com.... (Rcaprd@aol.com)
4. 11:41 AM - ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss (Norman Stapelberg)
5. 12:28 PM - Re: two questions (Alex Sloan)
6. 01:59 PM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss (Andimaxd@aol.com)
7. 03:32 PM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss (DJ Vegh)
8. 06:09 PM - Re: Magazines (Phil Phillips)
9. 06:25 PM - one more question (Richard Navratil)
10. 07:55 PM - Re: one more question (Cy Galley)
11. 09:23 PM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss (Norman Stapelberg)
12. 11:43 PM - Re: one more question (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Spring Struts & Center secton fuel gauges |
Pieter's and wannabe's
I need a drawing, or diagram of how to install the as per plans bunji cords
on my landing gear. After a year or two of fooling around with bunji's, I too
will probably want to refit with springs. I don't feel like changing them
right now, however, I would like to have the best plans, pictures and ideas about
how to go about it. I could not get the link that Jim Markle posted on this
subject to launch.
On another topic -- I have just about ruled out the electric (mag. operated)
fuel gauge as not right for my plane. I don't like the idea of having a five
or six inch sight gauge hanging down for a number of reasons, mainly safety in
the event of an accident. The model A ford and older cessna wing float
gauges look great, but that will mean a lot of redesigning of the bottom of my
tank. In the '98-'99 AS&S catalogue they listed a 6", 4-1/4" travel spiral action
float type fuel gauge that is sealed and the dial is operated magnetically
(No leaks possible in case of an accident). That seems like it would really fit
the bill. Except that it is made to be mounted only from the top, and they
don't carry it anymore. They carry the 15" and the 19" but not the 6". I
called AS&S and asked who manufactured them. It turns out they are made by
Rochester Gauges right here in Dallas, TX. So I called them and they still make
them but they have a $125.00 minimum PO. At which time he asked what the
application was for, and I assured him it was for a three wheel off road vehicle.
He
then gave me a number for a supplier in Arkansas, He was still wondering why
the gauge needed to be mounted inverted, which he said you could not do. I
asked why, and he said because it says so. It's a float and a magnet, he agreed
and we concluded I could mount it upside down, but it will register
completely backward. The full mark will register empty etc...
So, do any of you know if I can take a hermetically sealed dial apart and
change the numbers and letters or better yet if anyone makes an inverted 360
degree inverted spiral action float type fuel gauge with a 4-1/4" travel.
Still in Pietenpol College,
Max
Arlington, TX.
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Struts |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 2/21/04 12:05:39 AM Central Standard Time,
cdawson5854@shaw.ca writes:
<< What about the ones in the 1933 Flying Manual
for the Sky Scout? >>
Clif,
those are 'Compression Struts'. Split axle gear use the 'Expansion type
Struts'.
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Struts details are on mykitplane.com.... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 2/21/04 12:08:20 AM Central Standard Time,
jim_markle@mindspring.com writes:
<<
<http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=lndg_gear_spring.jpg&PhotoID=2009> >>
Jim,
That's what I was looking for !! I've already blew up the drawing, and
printed it out. Thank you !!
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss |
Well Piet builders and pilots
We had a mishap during our flying this weekend, the plane is officially
ground till she has been repaired. As you can see from the pics enclosed
the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is
broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places.
Well now that she has to repaired let me ask this, on the pax cockpit
has anyone installed a door similar to the old tigers (to assist with
the entry?).
Cheers for now
Norman Stapelberg
PS also enclosed is the fuel system shut off valve
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| Subject: | Re: two questions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
Norman,
What is a "rose joint"?
Alex Sloan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: two questions
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Norman Stapelberg"
<norshel@mweb.co.za>
>
> I fitted my fuel shut off valve to the bulkhead fitting on the fire
> wall, then I made up a 4130 0.90" plate which fitted on to the valve, to
> that I fitted a rose joint and a stainless steel 1/4" pipe, the pipe
> runs through to the rear cockpit, the pipe is run through two guides. In
> the rear cockpit it is bent out and a aluminum angle is screwed to the
> side wall of the fuselage, this angle acts as a stop, to operate the
> shut off valve is as follows lift up and pull back to shut off and visa
> versa for fuel on so far it has given no problems.
>
> If need be I can take a snap shot and post to the net. With this mod I
> got a increase in fuel flow from 25Lt in 50min to 70Lt in 50min. note no
> fuel pump is fitted gravity is used, less contraptions less hang ups.
>
> I use the idea of KIS (Keep It Simple)
>
> Cheers for now
> Norman Stapelberg
> ZS-VJA (116Hrs)
> FASI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> BARNSTMR@aol.com
> Sent: 20 February 2004 07:48 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: two questions
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
>
> You don't want your shut-off valve on the engine side of the firewall.
> The best design for fuel shut-off valve is to install it on the aft face
> of the firewall. This is to allow the pilot to close the valve in
> flight in the event of an engine compartment fire. And, you want it
> rigged so that there is no question about the control having enough
> movement for full open and positive shut-off.
>
> This comes straight out of the FAA regs.
>
> Terry L. Bowden
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss |
Wow,
You are lucky to still be with us in the living, I hear they don't fly very
well tail first !!
Max
Arlington, TX.
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| Subject: | Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
WOW!
were you in the pattern? or did you have to make an off field landing?
It's a damn good thing that mount held together!
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss
> Well Piet builders and pilots
>
> We had a mishap during our flying this weekend, the plane is officially
> ground till she has been repaired. As you can see from the pics enclosed
> the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is
> broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places.
>
> Well now that she has to repaired let me ask this, on the pax cockpit
> has anyone installed a door similar to the old tigers (to assist with
> the entry?).
>
> Cheers for now
>
> Norman Stapelberg
>
> PS also enclosed is the fuel system shut off valve
>
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Doyle, E-mail me off list if you are still interested in older copies of Sport
Aviation. You can have first choice and I will offer what you do not want to
anyone else.
Phil Phillis( pphillips@kalama.com)
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Doyle K. Combs
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Magazines
I am sure you already have takers, but I will gladly pay the postage.
Doyle Combs
Lometa, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Magazines
Pieters,
Isabelle and I are clearing the house of everything not immediately needed.
Found about 40 copies of Sport Aviation, some back in the 70's. Anyone willing
to pay the shipping can have them.
Corky in La cleaning house
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| Subject: | one more question |
Thanks all for the kind words and the input on the fuel valve. I corrected that
this morning and since it was a beautiful, clear, 40 degree day in Minnesota,I
went out for my first taxi test around the airport.
It works good so far.
Now the question. I have been told that when 80/87 fuel is not available 100 ll
can be used adding Marvel Mystery Oil to the fuel to cut octane. How much per
gal?
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: one more question |
It isn't the octane that needs cutting. It is the lead salt that need something
like MMO to prevent and remove from valve stems and plugs. Doesn't it say on
the side of the can?
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or sportpilot@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: one more question
Thanks all for the kind words and the input on the fuel valve. I corrected that
this morning and since it was a beautiful, clear, 40 degree day in Minnesota,I
went out for my first taxi test around the airport.
It works good so far.
Now the question. I have been told that when 80/87 fuel is not available 100
ll can be used adding Marvel Mystery Oil to the fuel to cut octane. How much
per gal?
Dick N.
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| Subject: | ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss |
The landing happened on the field on the taxi way right off the side of
my hanger. The pilot did a perfect landing considering what had just
transpired.
Norman
South Africa
ZS-VJA (Rebuilding)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Andimaxd@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss
Wow,
You are lucky to still be with us in the living, I hear they don't fly
very well tail first !!
Max
Arlington, TX.
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| Subject: | Re: one more question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 2/21/04 8:26:05 PM Central Standard Time,
horzpool@goldengate.net writes:
<< I have been told that when 80/87 fuel is not available 100 ll can be used
adding Marvel Mystery Oil to the fuel to cut octane. >>
I think it's stuff called 'TCP' (tetrachloral - something) that you add to
the fuel. That's only if you use 100LL exclusevely. Reduces lead buildup on
the valves & plugs. I haven't had to use it...yet.
Chuck G.
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