Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 02/22/04


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 04:50 AM - Ohio Corvair College - Dates SET (Kip and Beth Gardner)
     2. 05:53 AM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss (Gene Rambo)
     3. 08:33 AM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (DJ Vegh)
     4. 08:52 AM - Re: Ohio Corvair College - Dates SET (Ken & Lisa)
     5. 09:20 AM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l (Norman Stapelberg)
     6. 09:30 AM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Dave and Connie)
     7. 09:40 AM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Michael Conkling)
     8. 10:06 AM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l (Cy Galley)
     9. 10:13 AM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Cy Galley)
    10. 10:43 AM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l (Norman Stapelberg)
    11. 12:28 PM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (John Myers)
    12. 01:04 PM - a great fly-in "reminder" site (walt evans)
    13. 01:39 PM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Dmott9@aol.com)
    14. 02:00 PM - Fw: Fuel Guage ! (Andimaxd@aol.com)
    15. 06:42 PM - Re: Fw: Fuel Guage ! (Ken Anderson)
    16. 07:05 PM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Fred Weaver)
    17. 07:12 PM - Re: one more question (Ted Brousseau)
    18. 07:12 PM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Ted Brousseau)
    19. 07:17 PM - Center secton fuel gauges (Ted Brousseau)
    20. 07:27 PM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Dave and Connie)
    21. 07:37 PM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Fred Weaver)
    22. 07:57 PM - Re: was high speed connection now Message rules (Michael Conkling)
    23. 08:09 PM - Re: was prop loss now high speed connection (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    24. 10:08 PM - Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l (Gary Gower)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:50:34 AM PST US
    From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Ohio Corvair College - Dates SET
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> Group, Corvair College #7 will take place on JUNE 18-20, 2004 at BARBER AIRPORT (2D1), Alliance, Ohio. Sponsored by EAA Chapter 82 and, of course, William Wynne. I spoke with William Friday night, and we are "Go". So, make your plans, get your parts, and come on up, out, or down (depending on where you live) to NE Ohio in June for the first-ever MIDWEST Corvair College. Gawkers and over-the-shoulder watchers are welcome, but this is mainly a chance for all us midwestern types to make some significant progress on our individual projects under William's expert guidance. There are motels and restaruants nearby in Alliance, and free camping with limited bathroom and shower facilities is available at the airport. As we get closer to the date, I may be able to arrange for a block of discounted rooms at a local motel if there is sufficient interest. More details to come..... Kip Gardner, President, EAA Chapter 82 -- North Canton, OH


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    Time: 05:53:30 AM PST US
    From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> Gentlemen: I have repeatedly asked that those of you with the desire to share photos do so on a separate site and not swamp everyone's computer with multiple long-download photos. With this latest group, together with the numerous "way cool" responses to each and every comment, I must unsubscribe from this group. Good luck with all of your projects. Gene Rambo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> Subject: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss > Well Piet builders and pilots > > We had a mishap during our flying this weekend, the plane is officially > ground till she has been repaired. As you can see from the pics enclosed > the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is > broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. > > Well now that she has to repaired let me ask this, on the pax cockpit > has anyone installed a door similar to the old tigers (to assist with > the entry?). > > Cheers for now > > Norman Stapelberg > > PS also enclosed is the fuel system shut off valve >


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    Time: 08:33:35 AM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> downloaded for me in seconds.... maybe you seriously ought to consider a high speed connection. if download time is of such importance to you (and it must be if your gonna leave the list over it) then why do you stick with a dial up? it's like an extra $10 a month to go high speed. sorry to see ya go. DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper DO NOT ARCHIVE - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > Gentlemen: > > I have repeatedly asked that those of you with the desire to share photos do > so on a separate site and not swamp everyone's computer with multiple > long-download photos. With this latest group, together with the numerous > "way cool" responses to each and every comment, I must unsubscribe from this > group. > > Good luck with all of your projects. > > Gene Rambo > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 2:38 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss > > > > Well Piet builders and pilots > > > > We had a mishap during our flying this weekend, the plane is officially > > ground till she has been repaired. As you can see from the pics enclosed > > the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is > > broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. > > > > Well now that she has to repaired let me ask this, on the pax cockpit > > has anyone installed a door similar to the old tigers (to assist with > > the entry?). > > > > Cheers for now > > > > Norman Stapelberg > > > > PS also enclosed is the fuel system shut off valve > > > >


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    Time: 08:52:36 AM PST US
    From: "Ken & Lisa" <KL0914@cogeco.ca>
    Subject: Re: Ohio Corvair College - Dates SET
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken & Lisa" <KL0914@cogeco.ca> Great news Kip. Count me in. Let me know if you get a discount on rooms. Ken GN1 2992 Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kip and Beth Gardner" <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Corvair College - Dates SET > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> > > Group, > > Corvair College #7 will take place on JUNE 18-20, 2004 at BARBER > AIRPORT (2D1), Alliance, Ohio. > > Sponsored by EAA Chapter 82 and, of course, William Wynne. > > I spoke with William Friday night, and we are "Go". > > So, make your plans, get your parts, and come on up, out, or down > (depending on where you live) to NE Ohio in June for the first-ever > MIDWEST Corvair College. > > Gawkers and over-the-shoulder watchers are welcome, but this is > mainly a chance for all us midwestern types to make some significant > progress on our individual projects under William's expert guidance. > > There are motels and restaruants nearby in Alliance, and free camping > with limited bathroom and shower facilities is available at the > airport. As we get closer to the date, I may be able to arrange for > a block of discounted rooms at a local motel if there is sufficient > interest. > > More details to come..... > > Kip Gardner, President, EAA Chapter 82 > -- > > North Canton, OH > > > >


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    Time: 09:20:02 AM PST US
    From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> Unfortunately I have to say it was a GSC 72" Dia, by the way my welder just made a turn and recons it does not look as bad as we originally thought,we'll replace the engine mount and do approved repairs to the breaks in the fuselage. Regards, Norman ZS-VJA (rebuilding) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 2/21/04 1:43:01 PM Central Standard Time, norshel@mweb.co.za writes: << As you can see from the pics enclosed the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. >> Norman, What brand prop is that ?? In your infomation list, it's a GSC 72" dia. Is this the one ? I've heard quite a bit of horror stroies about Ivo props, splitting and so on. Chuck G. == == == ==


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    Time: 09:30:44 AM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    <006401c3f94b$3e89d670$3b3b2c42@office> <004501c3f961$90b99050$d2a86d44@Desktop> Where do you get it for $10 more than dialup per month? Roadrunner is $40/month in the Rochester area and DSL is not available. Neither is an option for a lot of people around here. I wouldn't mind dropping back to $20 or so per month. Dave N36078 '41 BC-12-65 At 11:33 AM 2/22/2004, you wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> > >downloaded for me in seconds.... maybe you seriously ought to consider a >high speed connection. if download time is of such importance to you (and >it must be if your gonna leave the list over it) then why do you stick with >a dial up? it's like an extra $10 a month to go high speed. > >sorry to see ya go. > >DJ Vegh >N74DV >Mesa, AZ >www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > >- > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:53 AM >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > > > Gentlemen: > > > > I have repeatedly asked that those of you with the desire to share photos >do > > so on a separate site and not swamp everyone's computer with multiple > > long-download photos. With this latest group, together with the numerous > > "way cool" responses to each and every comment, I must unsubscribe from >this > > group. > > > > Good luck with all of your projects. > > > > Gene Rambo > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 2:38 PM > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss > > > > > > > Well Piet builders and pilots > > > > > > We had a mishap during our flying this weekend, the plane is officially > > > ground till she has been repaired. As you can see from the pics enclosed > > > the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is > > > broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. > > > > > > Well now that she has to repaired let me ask this, on the pax cockpit > > > has anyone installed a door similar to the old tigers (to assist with > > > the entry?). > > > > > > Cheers for now > > > > > > Norman Stapelberg > > > > > > PS also enclosed is the fuel system shut off valve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 2/20/2004 ---


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    Time: 09:40:59 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net> Hey DJ, Excellent point, except that I would have to move to a location that offers more than just "dial-up" -- not everyone on this group is on the leading edge of technology -- my ISP (& computer) are like the Piet, "Low & Slow". I have added a new "message rule" to my computer to not download any "Pietenpol List" attachments -- maybe you can let me know what I'm missing!;-) Mike Pretty Prairie, KS DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: was prop loss now high speed connection > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> > > downloaded for me in seconds.... maybe you seriously ought to consider a > high speed connection. if download time is of such importance to you (and > it must be if your gonna leave the list over it) then why do you stick with > a dial up? it's like an extra $10 a month to go high speed. > > sorry to see ya go. > > DJ Vegh > N74DV > Mesa, AZ > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 10:06:37 AM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Have you looked in the wing for damage yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> > > Unfortunately I have to say it was a GSC 72" Dia, by the way my welder > just made a turn and recons it does not look as bad as we originally > thought,we'll replace the engine mount and do approved repairs to the > breaks in the fuselage. > > > Regards, > Norman > ZS-VJA (rebuilding) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Rcaprd@aol.com > Sent: 22 February 2004 09:59 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > In a message dated 2/21/04 1:43:01 PM Central Standard Time, > norshel@mweb.co.za writes: > > << As you can see from the pics enclosed > the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is > broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. >> > > Norman, > What brand prop is that ?? In your infomation list, it's a GSC 72" dia. > Is > this the one ? I've heard quite a bit of horror stroies about Ivo > props, > splitting and so on. > > Chuck G. > > > == > == > == > == > >


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    Time: 10:13:37 AM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Just wait. John Edwards says he is going to provide broad band internet for everyone to supplement the invention of the internet by Big Al. <GRIN> I use a cable modem and it is fast. Cost is about $40 on top of the basic cable bill. Got rid of the 2nd phone line so it costs about $15 more per month but is 10 times faster than my old dial up. Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh Editor, EAA Safety Programs cgalley@qcbc.org or sportpilot@eaa.org Always looking for articles for Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave and Connie" <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: was prop loss now high speed connection > Where do you get it for $10 more than dialup per month? Roadrunner is > $40/month in the Rochester area and DSL is not available. Neither is an > option for a lot of people around here. I wouldn't mind dropping back to > $20 or so per month. > > Dave > N36078 '41 BC-12-65 > > At 11:33 AM 2/22/2004, you wrote: > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> > > > >downloaded for me in seconds.... maybe you seriously ought to consider a > >high speed connection. if download time is of such importance to you (and > >it must be if your gonna leave the list over it) then why do you stick with > >a dial up? it's like an extra $10 a month to go high speed. > > > >sorry to see ya go. > > > >DJ Vegh > >N74DV > >Mesa, AZ > >www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > > > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > >- > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:53 AM > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > > > > > Gentlemen: > > > > > > I have repeatedly asked that those of you with the desire to share photos > >do > > > so on a separate site and not swamp everyone's computer with multiple > > > long-download photos. With this latest group, together with the numerous > > > "way cool" responses to each and every comment, I must unsubscribe from > >this > > > group. > > > > > > Good luck with all of your projects. > > > > > > Gene Rambo > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> > > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 2:38 PM > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop loss > > > > > > > > > > Well Piet builders and pilots > > > > > > > > We had a mishap during our flying this weekend, the plane is officially > > > > ground till she has been repaired. As you can see from the pics enclosed > > > > the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is > > > > broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. > > > > > > > > Well now that she has to repaired let me ask this, on the pax cockpit > > > > has anyone installed a door similar to the old tigers (to assist with > > > > the entry?). > > > > > > > > Cheers for now > > > > > > > > Norman Stapelberg > > > > > > > > PS also enclosed is the fuel system shut off valve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 2/20/2004 > ---- > > --- > Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 2/20/2004 >


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    Time: 10:43:51 AM PST US
    From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> No not as yet will however do as soon as fuselage is repaired and given clean bill of health i.e.: x-rayed etc. Will keep you posted as things progress, have been offered a lot of assistance by all my friends, but the fuselage is the priority at the moment, what also concerns me is the flying struts, considering the replacement just for my own sanity. Regards, Norman -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cy Galley Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Have you looked in the wing for damage yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> > > Unfortunately I have to say it was a GSC 72" Dia, by the way my welder > just made a turn and recons it does not look as bad as we originally > thought,we'll replace the engine mount and do approved repairs to the > breaks in the fuselage. > > > Regards, > Norman > ZS-VJA (rebuilding) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Rcaprd@aol.com > Sent: 22 February 2004 09:59 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > In a message dated 2/21/04 1:43:01 PM Central Standard Time, > norshel@mweb.co.za writes: > > << As you can see from the pics enclosed > the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount is > broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. >> > > Norman, > What brand prop is that ?? In your infomation list, it's a GSC 72" dia. > Is > this the one ? I've heard quite a bit of horror stroies about Ivo > props, > splitting and so on. > > Chuck G. > > > == > == > == > == > > == == == ==


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    Time: 12:28:55 PM PST US
    From: John Myers <jmyers@powernet.org>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    <006401c3f94b$3e89d670$3b3b2c42@office> <004501c3f961$90b99050$d2a86d44@Desktop> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Myers <jmyers@powernet.org> Just a reminder, many of us don't live in the burbs and don't have high speed access nor will even be offered anything but simple dial up for many years to come. I guess satellite service would be a possibility but not a very good alternative for this user. I download once or twice a day and not a week goes by but what my ISP sends out a notice that email server limits are exceeded and emails will be lost if not downloaded immediately. The only other ISP's available require long distance access or webmail only type services. I guess I will be glad to be uninformed and out in the boondocks as long as I can live within 100 feet of my planes and also have my own runway. If that is what I have to pay for not having a high speed line, then so be it. I am with you Gene, wishing photoshare would suffice. Good luck all and not intending to criticize, just sharing what some of us are faced with. John Low and Slow both flying and internet ;-) downloaded for me in seconds.... maybe you seriously ought to consider a >high speed connection. if download time is of such importance to you (and


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    Time: 01:04:20 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: a great fly-in "reminder" site
    Don't remember where I heard of this, most likely on this group, but this site reminds you of upcomming fly-ins, for any catagory and state/states that you want. http://www.flyins.com/flyins/index.po walt evans NX140DL


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    Time: 01:39:17 PM PST US
    From: Dmott9@aol.com
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dmott9@aol.com In a message dated 2/22/04 12:41:20 PM SA Pacific Standard Time, hpvs@southwind.net writes: > I have added a new "message rule" to my computer to not download any > "Pietenpol List" attachments -- maybe you can let me know what I'm > missing!;-) > > Mike > Pretty Prairie, KS Thats what I suggest too. I don't automatically download any attachments. That can be dangerous to your computer anyways. I download the picture if I want to see them otherwise just hit "next" message. Not a big deal for me, just turn the attachment auto-download off. -dennis E.TN.


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    Time: 02:00:15 PM PST US
    From: Andimaxd@aol.com
    Subject: Fwd: Fuel Guage !
    From: Andimaxd@aol.com Subject: Re: Fuel Guage ! In a message dated 2/21/2004 7:34:32 PM Central Standard Time, a11111@localnet.com writes: > Ck out early V.W. mechanical fuel level -----cable operated guage . > Cable is same as used on multiple SPEED kids bicycles . Can be made > various lengths ! Tim a4266@localnet.com KC8WBJ > > Pieters: Are any of you familiar with this VW cable operated fuel gauge that Tim is referring to. It sounds really neat and just like what I am looking for, unfortunately, I can't locate a source and I am not familiar with it myself. It would be helpful to know a year model range on the cars that had this, at least. All the VW fuel gauges I can find are electric and will not be suitable for my application. Pietenplumbing in Arlington, TX., Max In a message dated 2/21/2004 7:34:32 PM Central Standard Time, a11111@localnet.com writes: Ck out early V.W. mechanical fuel level -----cable operated guage . Cable is same as used on multiple SPEED kids bicycles . Can be made various lengths ! Tim a4266@localnet.com KC8WBJ Pieters: Are any of you familiar with this VW cable operated fuel gauge that Tim is referring to. It sounds really neat and just like what I am looking for, unfortunately, I can't locate a source and I am not familiar with it myself. It would be helpful to know a year model range on the cars that had this, at least. All the VW fuel gauges I can find are electric and will not be suitable for my application. Pietenplumbing in Arlington, TX., Max


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    Time: 06:42:32 PM PST US
    From: "Ken Anderson" <piet4ken@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Fwd: Fuel Guage !
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Anderson" <piet4ken@mindspring.com> The mechanical VW fuel guage was used in the early to mid 60's 61 to 66 probably Ken > [Original Message] > From: <Andimaxd@aol.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: 2/22/2004 3:59:59 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Fuel Guage ! > >


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    Time: 07:05:52 PM PST US
    From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> I've been watching this exchange now for a couple of days. The answer to high speed for "Rural" areas is the satellite. I moved about 18 months ago to this home which is out in the boonies in California.. I can only get 28800 on dial up. I signed up with earthlink to do the satellite connection and have nothing but praise for it. Uploads aren't as fast as downloads but most of us download a lot more than upload. I'm not thrilled with the cost but I'm sure with time it will come down. I pay $69 a month but don't have any phone lines used for the computer. The amount of time it saves me more than pays the bill. If you value the information/pictures that are available AS WELL AS YOUR TIME..... It's a bargin. I encourage anyone living outside the DSL/Wireless/Cable areas to give it a try. Good Luck and have fun, Weav ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Myers" <jmyers@powernet.org> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: was prop loss now high speed connection > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Myers <jmyers@powernet.org> > > Just a reminder, many of us don't live in the burbs and don't have high > speed access nor will even be offered anything but simple dial up for many > years to come. I guess satellite service would be a possibility but not a > very good alternative for this user. I download once or twice a day and > not a week goes by but what my ISP sends out a notice that email server > limits are exceeded and emails will be lost if not downloaded > immediately. The only other ISP's available require long distance access > or webmail only type services. > > I guess I will be glad to be uninformed and out in the boondocks as long as > I can live within 100 feet of my planes and also have my own runway. If > that is what I have to pay for not having a high speed line, then so be it. > > I am with you Gene, wishing photoshare would suffice. > > Good luck all and not intending to criticize, just sharing what some of us > are faced with. > > John > Low and Slow both flying and internet ;-) > > > downloaded for me in seconds.... maybe you seriously ought to consider a > >high speed connection. if download time is of such importance to you (and > >


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    Time: 07:12:44 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
    Subject: Re: one more question
    Dick, I use 4 oz. per 10 gallons. Not sure it works, but not willing to find out by stopping. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Navratil To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: one more question Thanks all for the kind words and the input on the fuel valve. I corrected that this morning and since it was a beautiful, clear, 40 degree day in Minnesota,I went out for my first taxi test around the airport. It works good so far. Now the question. I have been told that when 80/87 fuel is not available 100 ll can be used adding Marvel Mystery Oil to the fuel to cut octane. How much per gal? Dick N.


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    Time: 07:12:44 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Mike, How do you set up the rule to remove the attachment? I would like to do that too. Life was so much better when members would post the pictures and notify us they were available. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net> > I have added a new "message rule" to my computer to not download any > "Pietenpol List" attachments -- maybe you can let me know what I'm > missing!;-) > > Mike > Pretty Prairie, KS >


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    Time: 07:17:42 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
    Subject: Center secton fuel gauges
    Max I have that fuel gauge on fuselage tank. I will look at the dial part and let you know if I looks like it will come apart easily. Ted I am looking for a center section solution for the one I am building too. Keep me posted as to what you come up with. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andimaxd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 11:12 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spring Struts & Center secton fuel gauges Pieter's and wannabe's I need a drawing, or diagram of how to install the as per plans bunji cords on my landing gear. After a year or two of fooling around with bunji's, I too will probably want to refit with springs. I don't feel like changing them right now, however, I would like to have the best plans, pictures and ideas about how to go about it. I could not get the link that Jim Markle posted on this subject to launch. On another topic -- I have just about ruled out the electric (mag. operated) fuel gauge as not right for my plane. I don't like the idea of having a five or six inch sight gauge hanging down for a number of reasons, mainly safety in the event of an accident. The model A ford and older cessna wing float gauges look great, but that will mean a lot of redesigning of the bottom of my tank. In the '98-'99 AS&S catalogue they listed a 6", 4-1/4" travel spiral action float type fuel gauge that is sealed and the dial is operated magnetically (No leaks possible in case of an accident). That seems like it would really fit the bill. Except that it is made to be mounted only from the top, and they don't carry it anymore. They carry the 15" and the 19" but not the 6". I called AS&S and asked who manufactured them. It turns out they are made by Rochester Gauges right here in Dallas, TX. So I called them and they still make them but they have a $125.00 minimum PO. At which time he asked what the application was for, and I assured him it was for a three wheel off road vehicle. He then gave me a number for a supplier in Arkansas, He was still wondering why the gauge needed to be mounted inverted, which he said you could not do. I asked why, and he said because it says so. It's a float and a magnet, he agreed and we concluded I could mount it upside down, but it will register completely backward. The full mark will register empty etc... So, do any of you know if I can take a hermetically sealed dial apart and change the numbers and letters or better yet if anyone makes an inverted 360 degree inverted spiral action float type fuel gauge with a 4-1/4" travel. Still in Pietenpol College, Max Arlington, TX.


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    Time: 07:27:05 PM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    <006401c3f94b$3e89d670$3b3b2c42@office> <004501c3f961$90b99050$d2a86d44@Desktop> <6.0.1.1.0.20040222104435.01cc63e8@mail.powernet.org> <024001c3f9b9$e0459b70$ab31020a@CPQ17340127742> Sat is OK except for two things. The price is right up there. $69 vs $40 for cable/DSL vs $10-20 for dialup. Second problem is latency if you are doing online gaming. The round trip to a sat and back down is about 50,000 miles which works out to a noticable amount of time, a little under 1/3 second just for the electrons to fly around. My kids gripe about the 11mbps for the wireless in the house. One thing to watch is that the cable guys want to hook your cable modem to the USB port. Hook it to a network card and you can push a bit more throughput. It shows when you download a Linux distro or other big thing. The big advantage of sat for some folks is that it is the only game in town (or out of town as the case may be). Dave At 10:05 PM 2/22/2004, you wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> > >I've been watching this exchange now for a couple of days. The answer to >high speed for "Rural" areas is the satellite. I moved about 18 months ago >to this home which is out in the boonies in California.. I can only get >28800 on dial up. I signed up with earthlink to do the satellite connection >and have nothing but praise for it. Uploads aren't as fast as downloads but >most of us download a lot more than upload. I'm not thrilled with the cost >but I'm sure with time it will come down. I pay $69 a month but don't have >any phone lines used for the computer. The amount of time it saves me more >than pays the bill. If you value the information/pictures that are available >AS WELL AS YOUR TIME..... It's a bargin. I encourage anyone living outside >the DSL/Wireless/Cable areas to give it a try. >Good Luck and have fun, >Weav ---


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    Time: 07:37:17 PM PST US
    From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> You're right on the money Dave... I forgot about the "gamers".... One of the greatest things that did happen out here at my airport was the addition of High Speed Wireless. We can now be online inside the hangar with speeds faster than DSL or cable. The gaming guys are doing just fine with that arrangement with no complaints. As soon as I can figure out a way to "beam" it to my house, I will make the change. Not only is it screaming fast but it's only $49 a month... Sure works for me... Weav ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave and Connie" <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: was prop loss now high speed connection > Sat is OK except for two things. The price is right up there. $69 vs $40 > for cable/DSL vs $10-20 for dialup. Second problem is latency if you are > doing online gaming. The round trip to a sat and back down is about 50,000 > miles which works out to a noticable amount of time, a little under 1/3 > second just for the electrons to fly around. My kids gripe about the > 11mbps for the wireless in the house. One thing to watch is that the cable > guys want to hook your cable modem to the USB port. Hook it to a network > card and you can push a bit more throughput. It shows when you download a > Linux distro or other big thing. > > The big advantage of sat for some folks is that it is the only game in town > (or out of town as the case may be). > > Dave > > At 10:05 PM 2/22/2004, you wrote: > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> > > > >I've been watching this exchange now for a couple of days. The answer to > >high speed for "Rural" areas is the satellite. I moved about 18 months ago > >to this home which is out in the boonies in California.. I can only get > >28800 on dial up. I signed up with earthlink to do the satellite connection > >and have nothing but praise for it. Uploads aren't as fast as downloads but > >most of us download a lot more than upload. I'm not thrilled with the cost > >but I'm sure with time it will come down. I pay $69 a month but don't have > >any phone lines used for the computer. The amount of time it saves me more > >than pays the bill. If you value the information/pictures that are available > >AS WELL AS YOUR TIME..... It's a bargin. I encourage anyone living outside > >the DSL/Wireless/Cable areas to give it a try. > >Good Luck and have fun, > >Weav > ---- > > --- > Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 2/20/2004 >


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    Time: 07:57:02 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net>
    Subject: Re: was high speed connection now Message rules
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net> Ted, In Outlook Express, the "Help" function can show how to create new message rules -- I have the rules setup to move "Pietenpol List" e-mails to the Piet folder -- this is the "rule" I have to "ignore" the attachments: "Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the Subject line contains 'Pietenpol list' and Where the message has an attachment Do not Download it from the server " Hard to explain (maybe I need to send a picture!! ;-) but easy to figure out once you play with it a bit! Contact me off list if you are having any trouble setting it up. Mike Pretty Prairie, KS Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: was prop loss now high speed connection > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > > Mike, > > How do you set up the rule to remove the attachment? I would like to do > that too. > > Life was so much better when members would post the pictures and notify us > they were available. > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > > I have added a new "message rule" to my computer to not download any > > "Pietenpol List" attachments -- maybe you can let me know what I'm > > missing!;-) > > > > Mike > > Pretty Prairie, KS > > > >


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    Time: 08:09:13 PM PST US
    <006401c3f94b$3e89d670$3b3b2c42@office> <004501c3f961$90b99050$d2a86d44@Desktop> <009e01c3f96b$2dcf8ee0$57c5fea9@mke> <00d501c3f9bb$05f5c7e0$f13c4e0c@cacjis20.jud20.flcourts.org>
    From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: was prop loss now high speed connection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> At 10:12 PM -0500 2/22/04, Ted Brousseau wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > >Mike, > >How do you set up the rule to remove the attachment? I would like to do >that too. > >Life was so much better when members would post the pictures and notify us >they were available. > >Ted >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > >> I have added a new "message rule" to my computer to not download any >> "Pietenpol List" attachments -- maybe you can let me know what I'm > > missing!;-) > > > > Mike > Pretty Prairie, KS List, Two issues here for some of us. First, my household is on a serious budget, and $60/mo for high-speed, satellite, what-have-you vs. $10.00/mo for the limited service I buy is a big difference. Second, even if I turn off attachment delivery, I still have to go to my ISP's web site & delete all your attachment-filleed emails about once a week or my mailbox capacity gets exceeded, Just because they aren't delivered doesn't mean they aren't still on the ISP's server, filling up my account I'm in complete sympathy with Gene Rambo, and sorry to see him unsubscribe. Photoshare was fine by me, I could log on at work & see what I wanted to; this attachment business is a pain. BTW - Cy Galley, didn't we agree to not be political on this list? Regards, Kip Gardner -- North Canton, OH


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    Time: 10:08:36 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> I was just going to comment something like this... the vibration from a missing blade like the one in your plane is SEVERE... is not just a broken tip. The damage you see, might happen like in some car "minor" accidents, sometimes when you get hit from the rear, and see your bumper with no damage, you think the car is Ok and just let the other driver go home... later when you check it out well, the fender(s) are bowed and the rear doors dont close, etc... several hundred dollars in damage you didnt see... In a plane hidden damage could be HIGHLY more dangerous, could break in flight. Just my thoughts, If it was my plane I will look all around as closely as I value my life... you just had a chance from Above, dont take it lightly. Saludos Gary Gower. --- Cy Galley <cgalley@qcbc.org> wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> > > Have you looked in the wing for damage yet? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Stapelberg" <norshel@mweb.co.za> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:19 AM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Norman Stapelberg" > <norshel@mweb.co.za> > > > > Unfortunately I have to say it was a GSC 72" Dia, by the way my > welder > > just made a turn and recons it does not look as bad as we > originally > > thought,we'll replace the engine mount and do approved repairs to > the > > breaks in the fuselage. > > > > > > Regards, > > Norman > > ZS-VJA (rebuilding) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > > Rcaprd@aol.com > > Sent: 22 February 2004 09:59 AM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ZS-VJA No longer Flying Due to prop l > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 2/21/04 1:43:01 PM Central Standard Time, > > norshel@mweb.co.za writes: > > > > << As you can see from the pics enclosed > > the blade let go, causing such a vibration that the engine mount > is > > broken in two places, the fuselage also broke in two places. >> > > > > Norman, > > What brand prop is that ?? In your infomation list, it's a GSC 72" > dia. > > Is > > this the one ? I've heard quite a bit of horror stroies about Ivo > > props, > > splitting and so on. > > > > Chuck G. > > > > > > > > > > == > > == > > == > > == > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools




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