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1. 04:01 AM - Re: data plate (Peter W Johnson)
2. 04:04 AM - Re: Re: Antique Instruments (Peter W Johnson)
3. 05:28 AM - Re: Bushings (Carbarvo@aol.com)
4. 05:56 AM - antique instruments (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 06:02 AM - dataplate (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: data plate (Leo Gates)
7. 10:24 AM - Re: data plate (Leo Gates)
8. 12:52 PM - Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) (Cory Emberson)
9. 01:40 PM - life insurance (LAWRENCE WILLIAMS)
10. 03:32 PM - Re: life insurance (Sid Miller)
11. 03:34 PM - Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) ()
12. 03:39 PM - Re: Need a little help (Ted Brousseau)
13. 04:30 PM - Re: life insurance (Kip and Beth Gardner)
14. 06:28 PM - wings installed!!! (DJ Vegh)
15. 08:34 PM - Re: Need a little help (Rcaprd@aol.com)
16. 08:39 PM - Re: wings installed - weight (DJ Vegh)
17. 10:14 PM - Re: wings installed!!! (jimboyer@direcway.com)
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Oscar Zuniga I think.
Cheers
Peter.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Navratil
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: data plate
There was someone on the list who had a very nice plate made. I'm trying to
find that one.
Dick
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From: walt <mailto:wbeevans@verizon.net> evans
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: data plate
Got mine from Aircraft Spruce. It's made out of stainless (CRES).
If you don't have a catalog,,,it's free. Just go on their site and follow
the free catalog thing.
walt evans
NX140DL
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From: Richard Navratil <mailto:horzpool@goldengate.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: data plate
Who was it that has data plates for sale? I need one. I ordered the plate
from Wicks and installed it, this is the one that goes on the exterior near
the tail. My check list from the FAA says aluminum is not acceptable for
this plate. Also there is no space on that plate for the builders name.
Dick N.
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Subject: | Re: Antique Instruments |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
Try http://www.stewartwarner.com/Catalog/2wng.html
Cheers
Peter
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave rowe
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Antique Instruments
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe <rowed044@shaw.ca>
Someone sent a link for instruments a while back, and I'll be damned if I
can find it. Could someone send any links for antique-looking isntruments.
Thanks, Dave Rowe
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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In response to Dave in Missori: Although there have been many suggestions
that motorcycle wheels have no ability to sustain side loads, there are also many
examples of successful applications of them on Pietenpols. A notable example
is Chad Wille (from Washington state I think) who uses a pair of British
motorcycle wheels on his Scout. Before Chad used them, his father used the same
wheels on his Piet. While it's true that a motorcycle is seldom in a position to
sustain a side load, it would be difficult or at least improbable to build a
wheel for production which had NO such capability. General statements aside,
can anyone out there site chapter and verse on specific failures of motorcycle
wheels as used on Pietenpol aircraft? I'd be very interested in the failure
mode of the wheels. There are about four possibile failure points and I honestly
do not see where fabricating your own 6" hubs buys much in the way of a
guarantee against these failure modes. Carl Vought
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Subject: | antique instruments |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Here's a link to another instrument site besides the Bugs 'N' Buggies, which
is also good:
http://www.classicinstruments.net
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Dick; I'm the one who is offering brass dataplates (info at
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/dataplate.html ) but they don't include
space for the builder's name and aren't intended to meed the FAR
requirements for the permanent data plate that is to be affixed to the
airframe. They are intended more for installation in the cockpit, in front
of the passenger on the "glove box", or similar, to impart that old-timey
feel. But if you want one, shoot me your snail mail address offline and
there will be one in the mail to you tomorrow.
I had 100 of these plates made up and have only sold about 1/4 of them, so
if anyone wants one, info is on that webpage. I won't make a living selling
them but wouldn't mind recouping my investment. I plan to take them with me
to any fly-in I might attend, such as Brodhead, Urbana, Sun 'n' Fun, etc.
Oh, and to the person from Kitplanes who was asking about unique cockpits,
William Wynne's instrument panel was carbon fiber and would have been of
some interest just for that 'look'. I have a digital image of the panel,
but it's very low quality since it was a scan of a photo.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page download MSN Toolbar now!
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Oscar Zuniga:
You can see a picture and get ordering
information at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/dataplate.html and they are
$10 postpaid to anyone in the known universe.
Leo Gates
Richard Navratil wrote:
> There was someone on the list who had a very nice plate made. I'm
> trying to find that one.
> Dick
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Oscar Zuniga:
You can see a picture and get ordering
information at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/dataplate.html and they are
$10 postpaid to anyone in the known universe.
Leo Gates
Richard Navratil wrote:
> There was someone on the list who had a very nice plate made. I'm
> trying to find that one.
> Dick
>
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Subject: | Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) |
Hi Greg,
That is beautiful! How close are you to completion? Can you tell me a little
more about how you designed and built that gorgeous interior? Can you tell me
anything about the seats, etc. as well?
Thanks so much!! (wolf-whistling :-) )
best,
Cory
----- Original Message -----
From: gcardinal@mn.rr.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors)
Cory,
How about this for an interior. It is the instrument panel for the Air Camper
Dale Johnson
and I are building. The front cockpit panel features a veneer that is matched
to the rear panel.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Cory Emberson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors)
Hello!
I am writing an article for Kitplanes magazine that will feature builders who
have distinctive interiors and/or exteriors.
My deadline is rather short, so if you could email me as soon as possible,
hopefully by Tuesday, that will give me enough time to put it together.
Here are some of the criteria I'm looking for:
Interiors that are (one or any combination):
1. creative
2. inexpensive
3. very comfortable
4. lightweight
5. generally cool and different
6. distinctive in some way.
Exteriors that are:
1.. stunningly attractive
2.. original design
3.. historically accurate
4.. distinctive in some way
Other things to keep in mind:
1. How you came to design your interior/exterior (How you got your idea)
2. The reasons why you did it as you did
3. What benefits you had in mind
4. Any unexpected benefits (and/or pitfalls) there were
5. What you learned
6. How many hours you've flown with it (if completed)
7. How much of the work did you do yourself?
8. Did you have any professional assistance? How much?
9. The equipment and tools you used
10. How much time it took to build and install
11. The cost of building it.
12. Would you do it again the same way? Why?
Here are the photo requirements for Kitplanes: Photos must be 300 dpi at a
size large enough to use in the magazine, which is usually at least 3 x 3 inches.
If an image is 300 dpi at 1 x 1 inch, it won't be big enough to do any good.
Hard copy photos are good, too.
Thanks so much - I really appreciate your help!
best regards,
Cory Emberson
Hayward, CA [KHWD]
510.599.4409
cory@lightspeededit.com
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Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:40:30 -0500
I'm running into some roadblocks and thought that others on the net might have
traveled the same road and could offer some advice.
I'm trying to get some term life insurance but flying the Piet seems a bit much
for the various companies to deal with. To date I have had one flat-out refusal
and one that said they would cover me but they would exclude ALL aviation-related
pay-outs!! All this because I have a home-built airplane. What to do???
I'm definitely NOT interested in ways to circumvent the system, just experiences
or names of homebuilt-friendly life insurance companies.
Thanks-
Larry
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Subject: | Re: life insurance |
Have you tried the EAA - ( www.eaa.org ) members have access to several
insurance companys.
I've not started building yet but I do belong just to be able to get
discounts.
Sid
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Subject: | Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) |
Cory,
The veneer was glued onto birch plywood. Seat bottoms are also walnut veneer.
Seat backs are hand wickered.
Control column is walnut with maple inlay turned to the dimensions of a Waco
ATO stick (I always wanted Waco stick time and
this is as close as I'll probably get...) Primer and throttle knob are laminated
and turned.
Fuselage was moved into the paint shop last Saturday. Wings have been painted
to completion. Tail feathers only need the blue trim.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Cory Emberson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors)
Hi Greg,
That is beautiful! How close are you to completion? Can you tell me a little
more about how you designed and built that gorgeous interior? Can you tell me
anything about the seats, etc. as well?
Thanks so much!! (wolf-whistling :-) )
best,
Cory
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Subject: | Re: Need a little help |
Corky,
How about a twist instead of push pull? I turn mine 90 degrees for full on to
off.
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:37 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need a little help
Pieters,
When I built 41CC one of the highest hurdles and time consuming projects was
the fabrication and installation of the fuel plumbing particularly the cut off
valve and remote control. I am at that stage again and would like as many solutions
as you would feel free to share with me. I have an 18 gal fuse tank just
rear of the fire wall. I need a on-off valve easy enough to operate with a push
pull wire.
Thanks
Corky in La
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Subject: | Re: life insurance |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
At 4:40 PM -0500 3/15/04, LAWRENCE WILLIAMS wrote:
>I'm running into some roadblocks and thought that others on the net
>might have traveled the same road and could offer some advice.
>
>I'm trying to get some term life insurance but flying the Piet seems
>a bit much for the various companies to deal with. To date I have
>had one flat-out refusal and one that said they would cover me but
>they would exclude ALL aviation-related pay-outs!! All this because
>I have a home-built airplane. What to do???
>
>I'm definitely NOT interested in ways to circumvent the system, just
>experiences or names of homebuilt-friendly life insurance companies.
>
>Thanks-
>
>Larry
Larry,
How old are you? They may just be using the Piet as an excuse for
not wanting to insure you at a decent rate because of your age. I
have an old medical condition that makes it very difficult for me to
get additional insurance at a reasonable price, even though I had
surgery to correct the condition years ago.
Beyond that, I'm afraid I don't have any good advice beyond checking
with EAA & seeing if they have any recommendations.
Kip Gardner
--
North Canton, OH
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Subject: | wings installed!!! |
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Subject: | Re: Need a little help |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 3/14/04 5:39:01 PM Central Standard Time,
Isablcorky@aol.com writes:
<< Pieters,
When I built 41CC one of the highest hurdles and time consuming projects was
the fabrication and installation of the fuel plumbing particularly the cut
off
valve and remote control. I am at that stage again and would like as many
solutions as you would feel free to share with me. I have an 18 gal fuse
tank
just rear of the fire wall. I need a on-off valve easy enough to operate
with a
push pull wire.
Thanks
Corky in La >>
Corky,
I'll e-mail you direct, with some digital pictures (still in the camara) of
how I did mine. Might give you some ideas.
Chuck G.
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Subject: | Re: wings installed - weight |
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Subject: | Re: wings installed!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: jimboyer@direcway.com
Wow DJ!!! It looks beautiful, congratulations. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh <djv@imagedv.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wings installed!!!
> Need to share my excitement... I just spent the last 5 hours
> making the lift struts and installing the wings. Not a tough job
> just time consuming.
>
> I went with 1.2 degrees of dihedral and 0.4 of washout (which is
> about 3/8" at the trailing edge at wing tip) My incidence at the
> root is 1.8 degrees.
>
> Man... was it ever cool to have this thing parked in the driveway
> with the wings on!
>
> lots of pics here
>
> http://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/03-15-04.htm
>
> DJ Vegh
> N74DV
> Mesa, AZ
> www.imagedv.com/aircamper
>
>
>
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