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1. 04:43 AM - Re: Wire/turnbuckles (Carbarvo@aol.com)
2. 07:20 AM - Re: Wire/turnbuckles (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
3. 07:39 AM - Re: Wire/turnbuckles (DJ Vegh)
4. 09:10 AM - Re: Wire/turnbuckles (Christian Bobka)
5. 01:15 PM - Re: Wire/turnbuckles (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
6. 02:59 PM - Re: Wire/turnbuckles (DJ Vegh)
7. 04:55 PM - cub lift struts on ebay (DJ Vegh)
8. 06:30 PM - Re: cub lift struts on ebay (walt evans)
9. 06:45 PM - Re: cub lift struts on ebay (Christian Bobka)
10. 07:47 PM - Re: cub lift struts on ebay (Richard Navratil)
11. 08:04 PM - Re: cub lift struts on ebay (Christian Bobka)
12. 08:18 PM - Cub lift struts for your Piet (Doc Mosher)
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| Subject: | Re: Wire/turnbuckles |
Dick..I got my solid wire from McMaster-Carr. They have a catalog on the web
and their Atlanta phone number is 404/364-7000. They also have a printed
catalog which is over 2" thick which they won't mail to a residence...only
companies. The wire I got looks just right..low gloss, uniform and appears to have
the
right softness/hardness. Music wire is way too hard for this purpose. The
product description is as follows: Type302/304 stainless steel soft temper wire
.081" dia., 1-lb coil, (52') $8.14...Carl Vought...Huntsville, AL
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| Subject: | Re: Wire/turnbuckles |
Heres a link to some pictures of our tail brace wires. These are the same as
suggested for the wing brace wires by Carl Vought, except we chose 403
stainless wire.
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=143
Terry B
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| Subject: | Re: Wire/turnbuckles |
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| Subject: | Re: Wire/turnbuckles |
Good catch, DJ, on the cable end.
Chris Bobka
do not archive
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From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wire/turnbuckles
Terry,
your description says you used a pin eye turnbuckle end. Is that a is typo?
If not you may wish to reconsider changing from a pin eye to cable eye. A pin
eye doesn't have a soothed radius like a cable eye and will "cut" into the wire.
Pin eyes are reserved for clevis pins and bolts only.... no wires/cables.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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From: BARNSTMR@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wire/turnbuckles
Heres a link to some pictures of our tail brace wires. These are the same
as suggested for the wing brace wires by Carl Vought, except we chose 403 stainless
wire.
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID143
Terry B
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| Subject: | Re: Wire/turnbuckles |
Thats a good point DJ. I was not aware of there being a cable-eye type. I
was wondering why these didn't have the smooth radius like they needed to have.
There was a slight radius, maybe .025. So before we made up the ends, I
worked each one over a bit with a small round file to break the radius a little
more. Next time, I will order the AN-170.
Terry B
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| Subject: | Re: Wire/turnbuckles |
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| Subject: | cub lift struts on ebay |
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| Subject: | Re: cub lift struts on ebay |
Got mine from the rafters of a local airport. Was put up to it by another homebuilder.
There were hundreds of them. Didn't want to just take them, so went
to the Mgr and made a deal. After cutting off the top and bottom, the visual
inspection showed they were clean. sure beat $15.00 per foot for new.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
found this today....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category26439&item2467575734
I think he's asking a bit too much but maybe if someone was interested they could
email him directly as strike a deal.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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| Subject: | Re: cub lift struts on ebay |
Walt,
I need to drive my honda from CT to MN in the fall. Do you think you can set me
up with a set of struts when I come through?
Chris Bobka
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
Got mine from the rafters of a local airport. Was put up to it by another homebuilder.
There were hundreds of them. Didn't want to just take them, so went
to the Mgr and made a deal. After cutting off the top and bottom, the visual
inspection showed they were clean. sure beat $15.00 per foot for new.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
found this today....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category26439&item2467575734
I think he's asking a bit too much but maybe if someone was interested they
could email him directly as strike a deal.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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| Subject: | Re: cub lift struts on ebay |
Chris
There are generally a few sets in the Fly Mart at SNF every year.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Christian Bobka
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
Walt,
I need to drive my honda from CT to MN in the fall. Do you think you can set
me up with a set of struts when I come through?
Chris Bobka
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
Got mine from the rafters of a local airport. Was put up to it by another
homebuilder. There were hundreds of them. Didn't want to just take them, so
went to the Mgr and made a deal. After cutting off the top and bottom, the visual
inspection showed they were clean. sure beat $15.00 per foot for new.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
found this today....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category26439&item2467575734
I think he's asking a bit too much but maybe if someone was interested they
could email him directly as strike a deal.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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| Subject: | Re: cub lift struts on ebay |
Dick,
I am not driving from FL to MN but CT to MN. Walt is in NJ and I would go right
past Sussex.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
Chris
There are generally a few sets in the Fly Mart at SNF every year.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Christian Bobka
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
Walt,
I need to drive my honda from CT to MN in the fall. Do you think you can set
me up with a set of struts when I come through?
Chris Bobka
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
Got mine from the rafters of a local airport. Was put up to it by another
homebuilder. There were hundreds of them. Didn't want to just take them, so
went to the Mgr and made a deal. After cutting off the top and bottom, the
visual inspection showed they were clean. sure beat $15.00 per foot for new.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cub lift struts on ebay
found this today....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category26439&item2467575734
I think he's asking a bit too much but maybe if someone was interested
they could email him directly as strike a deal.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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| Subject: | Cub lift struts for your Piet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Doc Mosher <docshop@tds.net>
This is a sort of general alert for anyone who will be using Cub lift
struts for their Piet. It is a great idea. The struts are a bit heavy and
wide for the Piet, but that is OK. The reason the old struts had to come
off was that the tops of the struts are open and allow water to run down
the inside of the strut. It collects in the bottom around the barrel which
is what the threaded fork screws into. The AD suggests that you use a
fabric punch ($300 or so) to punch a specified area around the bottom end
of the strut. If the punch goes through the paint and the steel, discard
the strut because it evidently has rusted from the inside and is no longer
up to strength standards. Terrible way to check for rust! First of all,
it sure beats up your fabric tester, whose exact size point will get
damaged, and thus no good for fabric tests any more. The new Cub struts
are sealed at the top end.
The other thing is that I understand that at least two Cubs lost struts
even after the punch tests. The signed off tests may not have detected the
inside rust - or could have been just signoffs - not really any testing,
but who knows?
If you want a more specific way to check for rust, go to WalMart and
purchase a tiny grain-of-wheat 12 volt light bulb in the automotive
department. Costs maybe $3. Solder a pair of 20 or 18 gage wires maybe
two feet long to the light bulb. Daub the end of the light bulb with
Glyptal to insulate it. Put the strut on a pair of horses or on your bench
(not under a bright light). Remove the fork from the barrel. Connect the
light wires to a 12 volt source and shove the light into the barrel
end. Stick your eyeball into the barrel end and look around. It is
amazing that you can see every little flaw inside the strut with that
bright little light. In a few seconds, the hot little light bulb may start
to smoke up from anticorrosion oil in the strut, and you won't see anything
then but smoke.
If you use the Cub struts on your Piet, and use the fork end on the
fuselage, you will continue to expose the Cub strut to the rainy and wet
elements (if your struts are open at the top), and your struts may continue
to rust. Save your WalMart bulb and wires and check the struts every
year. No punch test needed.
Check your struts before you buy them. It takes 30 seconds per strut.
Doc Mosher
Oshkosh USA
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