Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/19/04


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:08 AM - Wheels and tire query ()
     2. 05:49 AM - What kind of wheels? (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 06:02 AM - Re: Wheels and tire query (Jim Markle)
     4. 07:05 AM - Horizontal stab question (At7000ft@aol.com)
     5. 08:15 AM - Rib layout question (Dan Loegering)
     6. 08:28 AM - Re: Horizontal stab question ()
     7. 11:51 AM - Signing off for a while (Robert Haines)
     8. 08:37 PM -  (Alex Sloan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:08:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Wheels and tire query
    Thankyou for the responses on my wheels and tire queries. The weight rating was extremely helpful. I don't know why the Sun & Fun tire salesman gave me wrong weights? I'm planning on Northern Tools general hubs and tires. They have a variety of assorted wheels and tires already assembled. I guess size was my concern, trying to figure it out as per the plans. Greg your information was extremely helpful. I don't know of any Henderson plans instructions? There was no attachment to your email either that you mentioned? I'm starting to get the feeling of metal work now, kind of fun, if time consuming and laborious with only hand hacksaw and hand drill. I went to Sun & Fun last year and this year and it is definitely disappointing that no Pietenpols are there, other than the antique comedy one. I'm guessing they must charge people to show their airplanes for the parking or something? So why take your plane if you have to pay? I pretty much skipped all the planes out on the field for my one day visit and just hit the booths, tents and sheds. My Finnish buddy from Chapter 37 picked up a bunch of parts including two sets of 4 point harnesses, of which I'm envious. Darned if I know where he found those for $20 a piece? your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html


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    Time: 05:49:15 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: What kind of wheels?
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Ray wrote- >Appreciate any comments on choice of wheels >Ray Auxillou, Miami Gardens, Florida. Ray- would you be "The Fisherman" from a few years back? Oscar Zuniga do not archive San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium!


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    Time: 06:02:33 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Wheels and tire query
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> I have checked Northern Tool (I LOVE that place!) and they have nothing I would personally consider suitable for homebuilt aircraft use. The 6" hubs built by Ken Perkins (I can find his email/contact info if you're interested) expressly for this purpose (and pretty darn close to the "Henderson plans") is the only safe way to go. Certainly not the only option, but it's your butt or one of a loved one that will be depending on the quality of those round things bearing the load when you return to terra firma...... There are many "would this work?" parts out there that would maybe do ok (like Home Depot turnbuckles and plywood) but is that really what you want to use? But Fisherman, please don't take this as criticism. My intent is to share an excellent source of homebuilt airplane parts with you (and the price is right!). And you say the word and I'll help track down the contact info. JM in Plano..... -----Original Message----- From: grandpa Ray <belizedevtrust@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheels and tire query --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: grandpa Ray <belizedevtrust@yahoo.co.uk> Thankyou for the responses on my wheels and tire queries. The weight rating was extremely helpful. I don't know why the Sun & Fun tire salesman gave me wrong weights? I'm planning on Northern Tools general hubs and tires. They have a variety of assorted wheels and tires already assembled. I guess size was my concern, trying to figure it out as per the plans. Greg your information was extremely helpful. I don't know of any Henderson plans instructions? There was no attachment to your email either that you mentioned? I'm starting to get the feeling of metal work now, kind of fun, if time consuming and laborious with only hand hacksaw and hand drill. I went to Sun & Fun last year and this year and it is definitely disappointing that no Pietenpols are there, other than the antique comedy one. I'm guessing they must charge people to show their airplanes for the parking or something? So why take your plane if you have to pay? I pretty much skipped all the planes out on the field for my one day visit and just hit the booths, tents and sheds. My Finnish buddy from Chapter 37 picked up a bunch of parts including two sets of 4 point harnesses, of which I'm envious. Darned if I know where he found those for $20 a piece? your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html


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    Time: 07:05:01 AM PST US
    From: At7000ft@aol.com
    Subject: Horizontal stab question
    Just to make sure before I start glueing, does the 3/16" ply that goes on the leading edge and center beam go on top and on the bottom of the stabilizer? Thanks


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    Time: 08:15:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Rib layout question
    From: "Dan Loegering" <danl@odayequipment.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan Loegering" <danl@odayequipment.com> Good morning all, A quick question on rib layout - I have a copy of the original "glider manual" plans for the Air Camper and the Sky Scout - I am currently using these plans to construct a 1/3 scale RC Piet (mainly to help convince the wife that I really need to buy the "real" plans and build a full scale one). On the rib layout drawing, are the dimensions shown taken from the chord line for both the upper and lower outlines, or do you add the two dimensions to arrive at the upper airfoil location? Example: At the first 5" station, the lower dimension is 5/8" and the upper is 6" - I know that the bottom dimension will give me the correct undercamber, but should the top of the airfoil be at 6" from the chord, or 6 5/8" from the chord... Will be purchasing the "official" plans for the Air Camper shortly - and hope to build the full size rib jig soon. Dan Loegering Fargo, ND Current Cardinal flyer - soon to be Piet builder


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    Time: 08:28:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Horizontal stab question
    I'm not sure if I read your problem right? But you do put the plywood gussets on top, but if you use Poly Fiber like I did, you have to cut strips of wood to go around the stabilizer to fill in the gaps between plywood gussets, as Poly Fiber dacron heat shrink covering, needs a constant perimeter level piece of wood to glue to, so when you shrink it, it shrinks evenly. If you have a gap on the perimeter your dacron will sag in the gap without a surface to glue to and shrink distorted. I learned the hard way! Ray --- At7000ft@aol.com wrote: > Just to make sure before I start glueing, does the > 3/16" ply that goes on the > leading edge and center beam go on top and on the > bottom of the stabilizer? > > Thanks > your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html


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    Time: 11:51:32 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Signing off for a while
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com> I'll be unsubscribing from the list for a while, work is picking up and I just don't have the willpower to not read the digest every morning. After reading, I'm then left daydreaming the rest of the morning. This list is a wonderful distraction. In the event that anyone on the list would like to contact me, I will be available by email. Sincerely, Robert Haines Du Quoin, Illinois http://roberthaines.us


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    Time: 08:37:04 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
    Subject:
    Fellow Builders, I have a question. I am building the new extended fuselage. A dimension on it and the original varies 7/8" This is the one from the tail post to where the stringers begain. Can any one tell me what this added 7/8" will do for or against me? The 18" given on the original plans agree with the diminsion for the horizontal stab. Should I increas this dimension on the stab to agree with the 18 7/8" on the extended fuselage? Thanks in advance. Alex Sloan




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