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     1. 06:00 AM - Re: T-88 Temperature Limit (Jack Phillips)
     2. 06:04 AM - Re: T-88 Temperature Limit (baileys)
     3. 03:00 PM - Re: T-88 Temperature Limit (Christian Bobka)
     4. 03:45 PM - Re: continental engines (Christian Bobka)
     5. 04:16 PM - squirt holes (Christian Bobka)
     6. 04:53 PM - More on A-75 props (Christian Bobka)
     7. 05:22 PM - Re: squirt holes (Bert Conoly)
     8. 05:39 PM - AN (DZUS) latches (Jim Cooper)
     9. 06:10 PM - Re: squirt holes (Christian Bobka)
    10. 06:24 PM - The A-75 is a production engine (Christian Bobka)
    11. 06:30 PM - Re: AN (DZUS) latches (DJ Vegh)
    12. 07:27 PM - Re: The A-75 is a production engine (Bert Conoly)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | T-88 Temperature Limit | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      
      That's one reason I used resorcinol
      
      Jack Phillips, Raleigh, NC
      
      Still spraying silver - getting close to putting color coats on
      
       -----Original Message-----
      From:         owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]  On Behalf Of baileys
      Sent:        Friday, April 23, 2004 9:23 PM
      Subject:        Pietenpol-List: T-88 Temperature Limit
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
      
      According to the System Three Literature the upper service limit of T-88 is
      160 degrees F.  I would guess that the internal temperature of a dark
      colored wing could exceed this especially when sitting still on the ground
      in the summer time.  Has anyone experienced (or heard of ) the adhesive
      failing due to heat?
      Just wondering,
      Bob Bailey - Missouri
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: T-88 Temperature Limit | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
      
      Thanks Cliff and Chuck,
      I guess my next question would be; does the strength return after it cools
      down or does it progressively get worse?  In other words is the weaking
      process cumulative?  It will be interesting to see the response from System
      Three on this.
      Bob B.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: T-88 Temperature Limit
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
      >
      > I went through this concern as well as my understanding
      > was that it lost 1/2 it's strength at that temp.
      >
      > From their site- lap shear strength in maple-1800 psi.
      > The wood let go. Doesn't tell us  anything.
      >
      > Tensile strength of the film-7000 psi.Variation with
      > temp on glued aluminum; 2500 psi @ 67 to 1000
      > psi @ 180 F. That's shear strength again but is that the
      > shear strength of the glue? or simply the adhesion limit
      > on aluminum?
      >
      > Shear strength for spruce is 1120 psi. So it appears
      > that at 160 or so it would be a tossup as to which
      > would let go, wood or glue. Up to that point the joint
      > is going to be the same strength. Above it the glue
      > becomes progressively weaker than the wood so it
      > depends on what the specific load is on that joint. If it
      > never sees more than 500 psi then it will do it's job until
      > the glue weakens below that figure, at an even higher temp.
      >
      > What's the smallest gusset in the fuselage and where is it?
      > If it was 5 square inches then the shear strength would be
      > 5600 lb. If that joint will never see 1000 lb then it will
      > probably be good at very high temps. If  it sees 3000 lb
      > then the failure temp will be lower but may still be well above
      > anything that joint will experience.
      >
      > That's the way it looks to me anyway.
      > Does it appear reasonable to you guys?
      >
      > Clif
      >
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: T-88 Temperature Limit
      >
      >
      > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
      > >
      > > In a message dated 4/23/04 8:23:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
      > baileys@ktis.net
      > > writes:
      > >
      > > << Has anyone experienced (or heard of ) the adhesive failing due to
      heat?
      > >>
      > >
      > > Good question.  I have never heard of any failures, but always wondered
      > about
      > > that, myself.
      > >
      > > Chuck G.
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: T-88 Temperature Limit | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      
      That is why I use Aerolite.
      
      Chris Bobka
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: T-88 Temperature Limit
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips"
      <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      >
      > That's one reason I used resorcinol
      >
      > Jack Phillips, Raleigh, NC
      >
      > Still spraying silver - getting close to putting color coats on
      >
      >  -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]  On Behalf Of baileys
      > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:23 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: T-88 Temperature Limit
      >
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
      >
      > According to the System Three Literature the upper service limit of T-88
      is
      > 160 degrees F.  I would guess that the internal temperature of a dark
      > colored wing could exceed this especially when sitting still on the ground
      > in the summer time.  Has anyone experienced (or heard of ) the adhesive
      > failing due to heat?
      > Just wondering,
      > Bob Bailey - Missouri
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: continental engines | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      
      Les,
      
      A prop on a taperered shaft crank with the hub, as used on the A-50 through
      A-80 in the A series and the C-75/85 in the C series, would not require the
      bolt holes to be counterbored on the engine side of the propeller's hub (ie.
      in the wood).  The prop is held to the hub assembly by bolts with cotter
      pinned nuts (that are on the forward face of the hub, BTW).
      
      The integral flanged crankshaft, as used on the motors quoted above AND the
      C-90 and O-200, have pressed in bushings that are threaded to recieved the
      prop bolts that are safety wired in pairs.  It is required that the prop
      bolt holes be counterbored on the engine side to receive these bushings.
      The bushings are not there to "drive" the prop but rather to provide enough
      thread engagement for the prop bolts.  It is the friction of the front plate
      (used with a wood prop) and the crank flange provided by the proper tension
      on the prop bolts that provides the abiltiy to transfer the torque from the
      crank to the prop.
      
      Old Sensenich props for the A series where designated, for example, W72C42.
      The W for wood, the 72 for diameter, the 42 for pitch, and the C for a 4-3/8
      x 6 bolt pattern with hp not to exceed 65 and the rpm not to exceed 2350.
      This was later changed to a W72CK42 designation.  The K is to designate that
      the props are counterbored so to be able to be used on a flanged crankshaft.
      If the W72CK42 prop is to be used on a tapered shaft crank with its separate
      hub, then aluminum bushings are pressed into the holes to fill them up with
      matter.
      
      I hope this helps.
      
      Best to do a google search on "sensenich wood propeller" and see their
      website.
      
      If a prop maker says he never has seen an A series with an integral flanged
      crank, then find another prop builder.
      
      chris bobka
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Les Schubert" <leskarin@telus.net>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: continental engines
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert <leskarin@telus.net>
      >
      > Hi
      > Can some one explain to me the differences internally between
      > the 65, 75 and 85 continental engines. As near as I can see they
      > all have the same bore and stroke and are just reved up more.
      > I think I read once that the 75 had oil holes drilled in the rods
      > to squirt oil on the opposing piston. I see there are various carburators
      > listed for these engines but I have no specifications for them.
      > Why do I want to know? Well I have a A65 in nice shape, at
      > least that is what the tag on the crankcase says, but when I ordered
      > the prop and said I had a crank with the integral flange the prop
      > maker said he had never heard of a 65 having the integral flanged
      > crank. I also see I have oil squirt holes in the connecting rods.
      > Help????
      > Les
      >
      >
      
      
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      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      
      Les,
      
      The squirt holes were originally used exclusively on the A-75 and A-80 to
      provide cooling oil to the waffle pattern cast into the underside of the
      piston dome.  The squirt holes eventually became standard and replacement
      rods from Continental in the later years all had them.  It is better to have
      them than not.  Also, the A-75 pistons, as said earlier, have the waffle on
      the underside but are otherwise identical to SOME of the A-65 pistons.  If
      you have these pistons in the A-65, as many engines do, then that is good
      too.
      
      If these to internal mods are present, then it is merely necessary to do
      four more things to get 75 hp:  rejet the carb, replace the venturi with a
      larger one, reset the magneto timing, and install a propeller that can do
      the following:  it is rated at 75 hp (it won't be overstressed), it can be
      spun at 2650 rpm (it won't be overstressed), and it will turn the minimum
      static rpm for the engine prop combination which should be about 2400 rpm or
      so.  It is imperitive that the prop be sized to allow for 2650 rpm when you
      are at wide open throttle at sea level on a standard day.  If you don't turn
      up the rpms, you will not develop the power.   Many have done all the mods
      except change the prop and are disappointed becuase the 65 hp prop will not
      allow the rpms to be developed.  To turn up the higher rpms, the prop must
      be either less in diameter (discouraged) or less pitch (encouraged).  With
      the piet design and its slow speed, always try for the biggest diameter
      possible for the best efficiency.  74 to 76 inches is not unreasonable.
      
      
      Chris Bobka
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Les Schubert" <leskarin@telus.net>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: continental engines
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert <leskarin@telus.net>
      >
      > Hi
      > Can some one explain to me the differences internally between
      > the 65, 75 and 85 continental engines. As near as I can see they
      > all have the same bore and stroke and are just reved up more.
      > I think I read once that the 75 had oil holes drilled in the rods
      > to squirt oil on the opposing piston. I see there are various carburators
      > listed for these engines but I have no specifications for them.
      > Why do I want to know? Well I have a A65 in nice shape, at
      > least that is what the tag on the crankcase says, but when I ordered
      > the prop and said I had a crank with the integral flange the prop
      > maker said he had never heard of a 65 having the integral flanged
      > crank. I also see I have oil squirt holes in the connecting rods.
      > Help????
      > Les
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | More on A-75 props | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      
      Les,
      
      I meant to say:
      
      It is imperitive that the prop be sized to allow for 2650 rpm when you are
      at wide open throttle at sea level on a standard day WHEN IN LEVEL FLIGHT.
      
      Chris
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: squirt holes
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
      <sbobka@charter.net>
      >
      > Les,
      >
      > The squirt holes were originally used exclusively on the A-75 and A-80 to
      > provide cooling oil to the waffle pattern cast into the underside of the
      > piston dome.  The squirt holes eventually became standard and replacement
      > rods from Continental in the later years all had them.  It is better to
      have
      > them than not.  Also, the A-75 pistons, as said earlier, have the waffle
      on
      > the underside but are otherwise identical to SOME of the A-65 pistons.  If
      > you have these pistons in the A-65, as many engines do, then that is good
      > too.
      >
      > If these to internal mods are present, then it is merely necessary to do
      > four more things to get 75 hp:  rejet the carb, replace the venturi with a
      > larger one, reset the magneto timing, and install a propeller that can do
      > the following:  it is rated at 75 hp (it won't be overstressed), it can be
      > spun at 2650 rpm (it won't be overstressed), and it will turn the minimum
      > static rpm for the engine prop combination which should be about 2400 rpm
      or
      > so.  It is imperitive that the prop be sized to allow for 2650 rpm when
      you
      > are at wide open throttle at sea level on a standard day.  If you don't
      turn
      > up the rpms, you will not develop the power.   Many have done all the mods
      > except change the prop and are disappointed becuase the 65 hp prop will
      not
      > allow the rpms to be developed.  To turn up the higher rpms, the prop must
      > be either less in diameter (discouraged) or less pitch (encouraged).  With
      > the piet design and its slow speed, always try for the biggest diameter
      > possible for the best efficiency.  74 to 76 inches is not unreasonable.
      >
      >
      > Chris Bobka
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Les Schubert" <leskarin@telus.net>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:38 AM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: continental engines
      >
      >
      > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert <leskarin@telus.net>
      > >
      > > Hi
      > > Can some one explain to me the differences internally between
      > > the 65, 75 and 85 continental engines. As near as I can see they
      > > all have the same bore and stroke and are just reved up more.
      > > I think I read once that the 75 had oil holes drilled in the rods
      > > to squirt oil on the opposing piston. I see there are various
      carburators
      > > listed for these engines but I have no specifications for them.
      > > Why do I want to know? Well I have a A65 in nice shape, at
      > > least that is what the tag on the crankcase says, but when I ordered
      > > the prop and said I had a crank with the integral flange the prop
      > > maker said he had never heard of a 65 having the integral flanged
      > > crank. I also see I have oil squirt holes in the connecting rods.
      > > Help????
      > > Les
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: squirt holes | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
      
      Chris.  On the A-75 engines, will the name plate be stamped with "A-75" or
      will it be stamped with "A-65" and the mods were simply made afterward by
      the dealer, FBO or owner to make it a 75 horse engine?  That is was this a
      production engine?
      
      the reason I asked is that last week I bought another run out engine I was
      told was an A-75.  When I got it home, I found it was stamped on the
      dataplate with "A-65".  No problem, I don't really care one way or the
      other. From what I am hearing from you (and some old-timers at my airport,)
      there's no way to tell without checking the carb jets, pistons, and venturi.
      It has a tapered shaft.
      
      I'm betting it's an A-65.
      
      Thanks,
      Bert
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: squirt holes
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
      <sbobka@charter.net>
      >
      > Les,
      >
      > The squirt holes were originally used exclusively on the A-75 and A-80 to
      > provide cooling oil to the waffle pattern cast into the underside of the
      > piston dome.  The squirt holes eventually became standard and replacement
      > rods from Continental in the later years all had them.  It is better to
      have
      > them than not.  Also, the A-75 pistons, as said earlier, have the waffle
      on
      > the underside but are otherwise identical to SOME of the A-65 pistons.  If
      > you have these pistons in the A-65, as many engines do, then that is good
      > too.
      >
      > If these to internal mods are present, then it is merely necessary to do
      > four more things to get 75 hp:  rejet the carb, replace the venturi with a
      > larger one, reset the magneto timing, and install a propeller that can do
      > the following:  it is rated at 75 hp (it won't be overstressed), it can be
      > spun at 2650 rpm (it won't be overstressed), and it will turn the minimum
      > static rpm for the engine prop combination which should be about 2400 rpm
      or
      > so.  It is imperitive that the prop be sized to allow for 2650 rpm when
      you
      > are at wide open throttle at sea level on a standard day.  If you don't
      turn
      > up the rpms, you will not develop the power.   Many have done all the mods
      > except change the prop and are disappointed becuase the 65 hp prop will
      not
      > allow the rpms to be developed.  To turn up the higher rpms, the prop must
      > be either less in diameter (discouraged) or less pitch (encouraged).  With
      > the piet design and its slow speed, always try for the biggest diameter
      > possible for the best efficiency.  74 to 76 inches is not unreasonable.
      >
      >
      > Chris Bobka
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Les Schubert" <leskarin@telus.net>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:38 AM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: continental engines
      >
      >
      > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert <leskarin@telus.net>
      > >
      > > Hi
      > > Can some one explain to me the differences internally between
      > > the 65, 75 and 85 continental engines. As near as I can see they
      > > all have the same bore and stroke and are just reved up more.
      > > I think I read once that the 75 had oil holes drilled in the rods
      > > to squirt oil on the opposing piston. I see there are various
      carburators
      > > listed for these engines but I have no specifications for them.
      > > Why do I want to know? Well I have a A65 in nice shape, at
      > > least that is what the tag on the crankcase says, but when I ordered
      > > the prop and said I had a crank with the integral flange the prop
      > > maker said he had never heard of a 65 having the integral flanged
      > > crank. I also see I have oil squirt holes in the connecting rods.
      > > Help????
      > > Les
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | AN (DZUS) latches | 
      
      My thanks to DJ Vegh for his prompt reply to my question regarding AN latches to
      lock the "flop" in the down position. Yes, I would appreciate detailed pics
      of the latches installed. I'll order them from Aircraft Spruce on Monday. Thanks
      also for the stunning photos of your RC GN1 model!  Jim Cooper in sunny South
      Louisiana (Corky country!!)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: squirt holes | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      
      Bert,
      
      Exactly
      
      "there's no way to tell without checking the carb jets, pistons, and
      venturi"
      
      These engines have been adulterated over the years and what should be there
      and what is actually there differ greatly.  Of course, for use on an
      experimental, it does not really matter what the data plate says....
      
      Chris
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: squirt holes
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly"
      <bconoly@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Chris.  On the A-75 engines, will the name plate be stamped with "A-75" or
      > will it be stamped with "A-65" and the mods were simply made afterward by
      > the dealer, FBO or owner to make it a 75 horse engine?  That is was this a
      > production engine?
      >
      > the reason I asked is that last week I bought another run out engine I was
      > told was an A-75.  When I got it home, I found it was stamped on the
      > dataplate with "A-65".  No problem, I don't really care one way or the
      > other. From what I am hearing from you (and some old-timers at my
      airport,)
      > there's no way to tell without checking the carb jets, pistons, and
      venturi.
      > It has a tapered shaft.
      >
      > I'm betting it's an A-65.
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Bert
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:14 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: squirt holes
      >
      >
      > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
      > <sbobka@charter.net>
      > >
      > > Les,
      > >
      > > The squirt holes were originally used exclusively on the A-75 and A-80
      to
      > > provide cooling oil to the waffle pattern cast into the underside of the
      > > piston dome.  The squirt holes eventually became standard and
      replacement
      > > rods from Continental in the later years all had them.  It is better to
      > have
      > > them than not.  Also, the A-75 pistons, as said earlier, have the waffle
      > on
      > > the underside but are otherwise identical to SOME of the A-65 pistons.
      If
      > > you have these pistons in the A-65, as many engines do, then that is
      good
      > > too.
      > >
      > > If these to internal mods are present, then it is merely necessary to do
      > > four more things to get 75 hp:  rejet the carb, replace the venturi with
      a
      > > larger one, reset the magneto timing, and install a propeller that can
      do
      > > the following:  it is rated at 75 hp (it won't be overstressed), it can
      be
      > > spun at 2650 rpm (it won't be overstressed), and it will turn the
      minimum
      > > static rpm for the engine prop combination which should be about 2400
      rpm
      > or
      > > so.  It is imperitive that the prop be sized to allow for 2650 rpm when
      > you
      > > are at wide open throttle at sea level on a standard day.  If you don't
      > turn
      > > up the rpms, you will not develop the power.   Many have done all the
      mods
      > > except change the prop and are disappointed becuase the 65 hp prop will
      > not
      > > allow the rpms to be developed.  To turn up the higher rpms, the prop
      must
      > > be either less in diameter (discouraged) or less pitch (encouraged).
      With
      > > the piet design and its slow speed, always try for the biggest diameter
      > > possible for the best efficiency.  74 to 76 inches is not unreasonable.
      > >
      > >
      > > Chris Bobka
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Les Schubert" <leskarin@telus.net>
      > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:38 AM
      > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: continental engines
      > >
      > >
      > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert
      <leskarin@telus.net>
      > > >
      > > > Hi
      > > > Can some one explain to me the differences internally between
      > > > the 65, 75 and 85 continental engines. As near as I can see they
      > > > all have the same bore and stroke and are just reved up more.
      > > > I think I read once that the 75 had oil holes drilled in the rods
      > > > to squirt oil on the opposing piston. I see there are various
      > carburators
      > > > listed for these engines but I have no specifications for them.
      > > > Why do I want to know? Well I have a A65 in nice shape, at
      > > > least that is what the tag on the crankcase says, but when I ordered
      > > > the prop and said I had a crank with the integral flange the prop
      > > > maker said he had never heard of a 65 having the integral flanged
      > > > crank. I also see I have oil squirt holes in the connecting rods.
      > > > Help????
      > > > Les
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
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      > > >
      > > >
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| Subject:  | The A-75 is a production engine | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      
      Bert,
      
      To answer the first question, the A-75 is a production engine.  The first
      versions of it were fuel injected, the -8J, but this later gave way to the
      carbed versions, the -8 being most common.  Some of the A-75s have the -9
      crankcase and accessory case allowing it to have a starter, either the
      Hummer X which is a bungie stretched the length of the fuselage that is
      literally geared to the crankshaft via an overriding clutch (wow) and
      similar to the wind up the spring and release lawn mower engines, the
      McDowell, which is tantamount to a pull start on a lawn mower, or an Eclipse
      385 ( I think that number ) which is an electric starter run off of a
      battery as the case does not have a provision for a generator.
      
      The fuel injected engines, or formally fuel injected engines, would have a
      boss forward of the intake spider where the injector pump would be driven
      off of.  It is identical to what was used on the O-200s to drive the vacuum
      pump.  A block off plate might be installed here.  The -9 also came fuel
      injected as the -9J.  I believe that B and S makes a small dynamo that can
      be mounted on a vacuum pump pad and this might be a simple way to have an
      engine driven electrical system (although you might need a transponder then,
      depending upon where you live).
      
      Chris
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: squirt holes
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly"
      <bconoly@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Chris.  On the A-75 engines, will the name plate be stamped with "A-75" or
      > will it be stamped with "A-65" and the mods were simply made afterward by
      > the dealer, FBO or owner to make it a 75 horse engine?  That is was this a
      > production engine?
      >
      > the reason I asked is that last week I bought another run out engine I was
      > told was an A-75.  When I got it home, I found it was stamped on the
      > dataplate with "A-65".  No problem, I don't really care one way or the
      > other. From what I am hearing from you (and some old-timers at my
      airport,)
      > there's no way to tell without checking the carb jets, pistons, and
      venturi.
      > It has a tapered shaft.
      >
      > I'm betting it's an A-65.
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Bert
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:14 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: squirt holes
      >
      >
      > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
      > <sbobka@charter.net>
      > >
      > > Les,
      > >
      > > The squirt holes were originally used exclusively on the A-75 and A-80
      to
      > > provide cooling oil to the waffle pattern cast into the underside of the
      > > piston dome.  The squirt holes eventually became standard and
      replacement
      > > rods from Continental in the later years all had them.  It is better to
      > have
      > > them than not.  Also, the A-75 pistons, as said earlier, have the waffle
      > on
      > > the underside but are otherwise identical to SOME of the A-65 pistons.
      If
      > > you have these pistons in the A-65, as many engines do, then that is
      good
      > > too.
      > >
      > > If these to internal mods are present, then it is merely necessary to do
      > > four more things to get 75 hp:  rejet the carb, replace the venturi with
      a
      > > larger one, reset the magneto timing, and install a propeller that can
      do
      > > the following:  it is rated at 75 hp (it won't be overstressed), it can
      be
      > > spun at 2650 rpm (it won't be overstressed), and it will turn the
      minimum
      > > static rpm for the engine prop combination which should be about 2400
      rpm
      > or
      > > so.  It is imperitive that the prop be sized to allow for 2650 rpm when
      > you
      > > are at wide open throttle at sea level on a standard day.  If you don't
      > turn
      > > up the rpms, you will not develop the power.   Many have done all the
      mods
      > > except change the prop and are disappointed becuase the 65 hp prop will
      > not
      > > allow the rpms to be developed.  To turn up the higher rpms, the prop
      must
      > > be either less in diameter (discouraged) or less pitch (encouraged).
      With
      > > the piet design and its slow speed, always try for the biggest diameter
      > > possible for the best efficiency.  74 to 76 inches is not unreasonable.
      > >
      > >
      > > Chris Bobka
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Les Schubert" <leskarin@telus.net>
      > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:38 AM
      > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: continental engines
      > >
      > >
      > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert
      <leskarin@telus.net>
      > > >
      > > > Hi
      > > > Can some one explain to me the differences internally between
      > > > the 65, 75 and 85 continental engines. As near as I can see they
      > > > all have the same bore and stroke and are just reved up more.
      > > > I think I read once that the 75 had oil holes drilled in the rods
      > > > to squirt oil on the opposing piston. I see there are various
      > carburators
      > > > listed for these engines but I have no specifications for them.
      > > > Why do I want to know? Well I have a A65 in nice shape, at
      > > > least that is what the tag on the crankcase says, but when I ordered
      > > > the prop and said I had a crank with the integral flange the prop
      > > > maker said he had never heard of a 65 having the integral flanged
      > > > crank. I also see I have oil squirt holes in the connecting rods.
      > > > Help????
      > > > Les
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: AN (DZUS) latches | 
      
      I'll snap some pics tomorrow and then post a link to them.  That little RC GN-1
      has been getting LOTS of flight time over the past few months. I swapped the
      motor for one that uses less amps and produces more thrust.  I'd estimate it has
      about 60 flights on it so far.   It looks really odd when I fly it inverted!
      
      DJ Vegh
      N74DV
      Mesa, AZ
      www.imagedv.com/aircamper
      
      
      -
      
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Jim Cooper
        To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server
        Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:36 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: AN (DZUS) latches
      
      
        My thanks to DJ Vegh for his prompt reply to my question regarding AN latches
      to lock the "flop" in the down position. Yes, I would appreciate detailed pics
      of the latches installed. I'll order them from Aircraft Spruce on Monday. Thanks
      also for the stunning photos of your RC GN1 model!  Jim Cooper in sunny South
      Louisiana (Corky country!!)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The A-75 is a production engine | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
      
      Man!  Now this is an example of good info we have at our fingertips.  Thanks
      Chris...
      
      Bert
      
      Do Not Archive
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: The A-75 is a production engine
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
      <sbobka@charter.net>
      >
      > Bert,
      >
      > To answer the first question, the A-75 is a production engine.  ......
      
      the rest is snipped
      
      
 
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