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1. 01:34 AM - Re: Fuse or wings next (John Dilatush)
2. 05:46 AM - Re: Fuse or wings next (Michael D Cuy)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Fuse or wings next (del magsam)
4. 06:40 AM - Flop (Jim Cooper)
5. 07:02 AM - Re: Flop (DJ Vegh)
6. 10:15 AM - Re: Fuse or wings next (At7000ft@aol.com)
7. 02:55 PM - Re: Fuse or wings next (walt evans)
8. 04:31 PM - Re: Fuse or wings next (At7000ft@aol.com)
9. 09:26 PM - Preliminary W&B calculator (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse or wings next |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
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From: <At7000ft@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse or wings next
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: At7000ft@aol.com
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A suggestion that you might consider:
Build the center section next: Then the wings can be built off of the
center section, right and left. At this point you know that the center
section and the two wings will match up. Then hang the center section and
wings from the ceiling. This then gives you room to work on the fuselage.
The wings are only attached to the fuselage by the cabane struts and these
are the easiest to adapt to any misalignment problems. (which none of us
ever have, of course!)
Cordially,
John
>
> Finished my ribs and tail and would like suggestions as to whether I
should build the fuselage or wings next. Also since I am building the 3
piece wing is it better to build the left and right wings and then center
section or vis versa?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse or wings next |
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Boy, you guys posted the most important part that I totally forgot about !!!!
Sitting in the cockpit is the primary reason to do the fuselage first
! I had quite a bit of flying
time logged before the plane even left the house:)))
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse or wings next |
The only reason that I can think of to start the wings first is that many people
start on the fuse first and that is what you see for sale, so to speed up a
project, you might as well buy a fuse and build the wings, I hate to see fuse's
sitting around....might as well use them.
Del
Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
Boy, you guys posted the most important part that I totally forgot about !!!!
Sitting in the cockpit is the primary reason to do the fuselage first
! I had quite a bit of flying
time logged before the plane even left the house:)))
Mike C.
Del-New Richmond, Wi
"farmerdel@rocketmail.com"
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Thanks, DJ for the wonderful pics on how you attached the DZUS latches and strikes
between flop and wing. They are a tremendous help. Your time and generosity
sharing your knowledge and experience are what make this list so great. Thanks,
Jim Cooper in sunny, but drenched, South Louisiana, aka Corky Country
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no problem! glad to be of help.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cooper
To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flop
Thanks, DJ for the wonderful pics on how you attached the DZUS latches and
strikes between flop and wing. They are a tremendous help. Your time and
generosity sharing your knowledge and experience are what make this list so
great. Thanks, Jim Cooper in sunny, but drenched, South Louisiana, aka Corky
Country
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse or wings next |
Alright, you guys talked me into it. Time to cut some longerons. Thanks for
your advice.
Rick H
Boy, you guys posted the most important part that I totally forgot about !!!!
Sitting in the cockpit is the primary reason to do the fuselage first
! I had quite a bit of flying
time logged before the plane even left the house:)))
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse or wings next |
One REALLY important thing that I kicked myself for not doing is,,,fitting the
butt joints of the spars and center section spars before building the wings.
If I built another I would,,shape them,route them, put on the ply plates where
all the brackets go, and finally assemble each whole spar, total length. This
makes sure the butt jounts come together properly with the wing( to the center
section),, perfectly straight (or the proper dihedral that you want). Then
mark all spars for front/back/left/right. Now there will never be a problem
with them mating to the center section. I mated the wings last and it was a process
of picking,poking and sanding to get a zero space joint.
Maybe others did it this way, but I overlooked it.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: At7000ft@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuse or wings next
Alright, you guys talked me into it. Time to cut some longerons. Thanks for your
advice.
Rick H
Boy, you guys posted the most important part that I totally forgot about !!!!
Sitting in the cockpit is the primary reason to do the fuselage first
! I had quite a bit of flying
time logged before the plane even left the house:)))
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse or wings next |
Good point Walt. I was wondering about whether it would be a good idea to
first glue on the center section spar plywood pieces, drill all the holes while
you could still use a drill press, and make and test fit the 4130 straps with
the bolts before gluing any ribs to the spars. Also to get the correct dihedral
I assume you just sand the end of the center spar a little then put the wing
spar against it until the dihedral is what I want?
One REALLY important thing that I kicked myself for not doing is,,,fitting
the butt joints of the spars and center section spars before building the wings.
If I built another I would,,shape them,route them, put on the ply plates
where all the brackets go, and finally assemble each whole spar, total length.
This makes sure the butt jounts come together properly with the wing( to the
center section),, perfectly straight (or the proper dihedral that you want).
Then mark all spars for front/back/left/right. Now there will never be a
problem with them mating to the center section. I mated the wings last and it
was a
process of picking,poking and sanding to get a zero space joint.
Maybe others did it this way, but I overlooked it.
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| Subject: | Preliminary W&B calculator |
Hey Group,
I've been working on some preliminary weight and balance #s in an attempt to
define the engine location tailored to my Piet. I have posted my MS Excel
file at the following location.
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/filesList2.cfm?AlbumID=53
I would appreciate constructive comments and critique. I have not yet
assembled the wings to the fuselage, but have made my best effort to consider them
individually in their proper location. I have weighed all of the major
components and have made some educated guesses of a few items. Please take a look
and help me ensure I am not missing anything or grossly in error.
Thanks.
Terry Bowden
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