---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/27/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:39 AM - Re: C of G with A65 (Christian Bobka) 2. 10:22 AM - Re: Suppliers for a Prop (Norman Stapelberg) 3. 10:50 AM - Re: Suppliers for a Prop (Isablcorky@aol.com) 4. 12:54 PM - Re: Ford/Piet Static RPMs? (Waytogopiet@aol.com) 5. 09:08 PM - pro's & con's of skids & wheels (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:08 AM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: C of G with A65 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" No, Chuck, you hold back to retain control on roll out. The ground loop starts when you let that skid up off the ground! chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: C of G with A65 > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > In a message dated 5/26/04 12:17:23 AM Central Daylight Time, > sbobka@charter.net writes: > > << Chuck, > > Hold that stick all the way back on roll out! Don't get lazy! > > Chris >> > > Yes, that does make a difference on the distance of the roll out. Gonna have > to spit my gum out, and pay attention, when I land downhill at Cook !! > > Chuck G. > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:21 AM PST US From: "Norman Stapelberg" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Suppliers for a Prop Thanks for the info I e-mailed them and will get a price from them I am sure it will be less than Sensinich. Thanks again Norman Stapelberg South Africa ZS-VJA (rebuilding) I've been happy with my Tennesee Prop. www.tn-prop.com One of the few wood prop makers that use 1/16" laminations. Makes for a very strong and stiff prop. Good price too... about $550 They will make any diameter or pitch combo you want. DJ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:07 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Suppliers for a Prop Norman, I might suggest you try Hagy props, Jim Corder grandson of original Hagy, who has maintained his quality of production at 432 729 4249 in Marfa, Tx but I understand is to move to Colorado. Can't blame him for that. Has anyone ever been to Marfa? Corky Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:52 PM PST US From: Waytogopiet@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ford/Piet Static RPMs? In a message dated 5/25/2004 10:25:41 PM Central Standard Time, Rcaprd@aol.com writes: Ran fine on the ground, and holding the tail up in the air, but on short final if I pull power to idle, the engine would quit. That happened 3 times. Changing the mag did not help. I got to where I would leave in just a tiny bit of power to land, then pull power to idle just at the end of the flair. It never quit when I did that. I had that carb apart quite a few times, comparing jet size, adjust float setting, inspecting, and so fourth, but I never did get all those gremlins out of that Model B carb. I have the jet sizes stored on my computer, if anyone is interested. Chuck, Thanks for the 'heads up'. I have thought about carrying power through to the flair on the first flight..now I KNOW I will !! I also had my 'B' carb apart several times, finally built a test stand and re-sized those Chinese after-market jets that I had acquired in a re-build kit from Snyder's Antique Auto and that, along with another tweaking of the timing helped it smooth out. I am using an Eisenmann mag and am pleased with it. The Model A carb book ( I forget the author's name) warns about problems with those jets. Don ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:44 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: pro's & con's of skids & wheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 5/27/04 6:39:45 AM Central Daylight Time, sbobka@charter.net writes: << No, Chuck, you hold back to retain control on roll out. The ground loop starts when you let that skid up off the ground! chris >> Yes, I understand that. I now have a tail wheel back there, and it made my roll outs quite a bit longer. On the turf, with the skid, when I pulled back on the stick all the way on roll out, it actually felt like applying light brake pressure, and really slowed 'er down. For take off with the skid, when turning around at the end of the runway, I would hold forward stick all the way, to keep the tail light, and I would hold full rudder with just enough power to lift the tail slightly up off the ground, and sit out there and do doughnuts for about 3 or 4 tightening revolutions, and then kick it straight for take off!! Way cool !! It actually shortened up my take off roll a little bit, because the tail skid didn't offer any drag, because it was already up off the ground. I can't do that with the tailwheel. Can't get the doughnuts as tight and small, and it's hard on the tailwheel. That's just some of the distinct handling characteristics between the tailskid and tailwheel. I like the tailskid much better for turf oporations, but it just didn't work on the HARD surface...ESPECIALLY on landing roll out, even with full aft stick. With no prop wash and ground speed less than 20 mph, the rudder wasn't nearly as effective, and the skid offered NO directional control. A cross wind would have it's way with 'er. Chuck Gantzer NX770CG