---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/15/04: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:41 AM - rpm's (WPTCorp@aol.com) 2. 07:37 AM - Re: rpm's (del magsam) 3. 12:53 PM - Corvair "almost done" Piet for auction on ebay (Michael D Cuy) 4. 12:55 PM - ebay Piet is in Wichita, KS (Michael D Cuy) 5. 01:19 PM - Status on the crippled piet! was aircamper for sale (Steve Eldredge) 6. 01:21 PM - Brodhead 2004 roll call (Steve Eldredge) 7. 01:38 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Michael D Cuy) 8. 01:54 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (John Ford) 9. 02:24 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Textor, Jack) 10. 02:52 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com) 11. 03:06 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call () 12. 03:18 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Textor, Jack) 13. 06:37 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Alex Sloan) 14. 06:40 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Michael Conkling) 15. 07:06 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (James Dallas) 16. 07:24 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (James Dallas) 17. 08:06 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Rcaprd@aol.com) 18. 08:34 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (John Dilatush) 19. 09:25 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Cinda Gadd) 20. 09:30 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Jim Markle) 21. 11:13 PM - Re: Brodhead 2004 roll call (Christian Bobka) 22. 11:13 PM - ebay piet auction (Christian Bobka) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:58 AM PST US From: WPTCorp@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: rpm's I have a piet that was built in 1975 and it has a 1965 110 hp corvair, the original prop was a 66/30 prop and it was broken when they had an off airport accident. We got an another wood prop but all I can get out of the engine (new rebuilt is 2250 rpms ant 5500 feet elevation in Casper, WY. Wayne in his book talks about it running over 3000 rpms, what is the normal rpm a corvair should run? Dave ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:18 AM PST US From: del magsam Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rpm's How is your rebuilt engine set up? Do you have the blower on it, is it built per william wynns plans, with an ot 10 cam? what kind of carburation? what kind of ignition? A common problem is assembling the engine with the timing one tooth off. my cam was actually marked wrong, and I was glad that I took the time to do a cam degree check. The static rpm will be less than take off or cruise rpm Del WPTCorp@aol.com wrote: I have a piet that was built in 1975 and it has a 1965 110 hp corvair, the original prop was a 66/30 prop and it was broken when they had an off airport accident. We got an another wood prop but all I can get out of the engine (new rebuilt is 2250 rpms ant 5500 feet elevation in Casper, WY. Wayne in his book talks about it running over 3000 rpms, what is the normal rpm a corvair should run? Dave Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:15 PM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair "almost done" Piet for auction on ebay guys-- just found this while looking at ebay. It ends in 5.5 hours and the bids are only up to 4,500....... Mike C. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2481738633&category=63677&sspagename=WDVW Vehicle Description Pietenpol Aircamper. 90% complete. Fuselage and wings covered and painted. Used Poly-Fiber process through Poly-Brush. Painted using oil based Rustoleum house paint. Flight controls coverd, painted, installed and rigged. Instrument cowls fitted and painted. Gear installed (with mechanical brakes, drum). I have two Corvair engines (110 hp) that require overhaul and mod for aircraft installation. J-3 header fuel tank installed as header in front of forward instrument panel. All instruments installed in panel and connections run to fire wall for engine instruments. Pitot plumbing installed. Built by an A&P with IA. Plans included. Located in the Wichita, Kansas area. Please feel free to call for more details or to arrange to see the project. (316) 729-9277 Vehicle Condition Started project in Nov 98 and worked off and on for the last 5 years. Used Douglas Fir and Sitka Spruce in fuselage trussing and Sitka Spruce wing ribs and spars. Streamlined 4130 tubing used in cabanes and lift struts. Also installed cockpit entry streamlined tube step under the pilot seat. Engine overhaul estimated to be approximately $1500.00 to $2000.00 including parts and machine work to finish. Prop is available but not included inthe price. Hegy prop $550.00 new. Will charge the same if interested in including with sale. Terms of Sale Cash, certified check or money order. 500.00 due within 48 hours and remainder due within 7 days of auction end. Aircraft removal is the responsibility of the buyer and must be removed from current hangar by July 1, 2004, unless storage arrangements have been made with the hangar owner. Aircraft is registered with the FAA (not Type Certificated Airworthy) and can be transfered at conclusion of sale. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:43 PM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: ebay Piet is in Wichita, KS --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:19:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Status on the crippled piet! was aircamper for sale From: "Steve Eldredge" Oh thanks mike, now the bidding war will ensue! I was hoping to pick it up for a song! (Just kidding really) My Piet is back in the air with a new prop and rebuilt landing gear. It took three months of spare time to learn to carve a prop, but it is done and spins smoother than the original. I only put on circuit on it before landing to adjust the ailerons. Discovered that I also had a slightly bent aileron horn on the damaged wing that resulted in a just-left-of-center stick placement to hold straight and level. Engine crank run-out was dead on the money, thank heavens for wood damage absorbing qualities. Also, I've given up hopes of going to OSH together as a gaggle. Only three of us were able to commit. I will probably fly on in myself, since I'm interested in the 30 or so Stinsons that plan to be there. (My current _other_ project). See you all in Brodhead. Steve E ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair "almost done" Piet for auction on ebay guys-- just found this while looking at ebay. It ends in 5.5 hours and the bids are only up to 4,500....... Mike C. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd1&item24817 38633&category63677&sspagenameWDVW Vehicle Description Pietenpol Aircamper. 90% complete. Fuselage and wings covered and painted. Used Poly-Fiber process through Poly-Brush. Painted using oil based Rustoleum house paint. Flight controls coverd, painted, installed and rigged. Instrument cowls fitted and painted. Gear installed (with mechanical brakes, drum). I have two Corvair engines (110 hp) that require overhaul and mod for aircraft installation. J-3 header fuel tank installed as header in front of forward instrument panel. All instruments installed in panel and connections run to fire wall for engine instruments. Pitot plumbing installed. Built by an A&P with IA. Plans included. Located in the Wichita, Kansas area. Please feel free to call for more details or to arrange to see the project. (316) 729-9277 Vehicle Condition Started project in Nov 98 and worked off and on for the last 5 years. Used Douglas Fir and Sitka Spruce in fuselage trussing and Sitka Spruce wing ribs and spars. Streamlined 4130 tubing used in cabanes and lift struts. Also installed cockpit entry streamlined tube step under the pilot seat. Engine overhaul estimated to be approximately $1500.00 to $2000.00 including parts and machine work to finish. Prop is available but not included inthe price. Hegy prop $550.00 new. Will charge the same if interested in including with sale. Terms of Sale Cash, certified check or money order. 500.00 due within 48 hours and remainder due within 7 days of auction end. Aircraft removal is the responsibility of the buyer and must be removed from current hangar by July 1, 2004, unless storage arrangements have been made with the hangar owner. Aircraft is registered with the FAA (not Type Certificated Airworthy) and can be transfered at conclusion of sale. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:37 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call From: "Steve Eldredge" Just out of curiosity.... Who is planning to attend? Name __________________ Flying or driving _____________ Aircraft _______________ Departure point of origin _____________ Steve Eldredge (solo) Flying 1997 Pietenpol Aircamper A-65 Spanish Fork Utah Steve E ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:33 PM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call du> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Steve-- if the forecast for that weekend looks promising I might bring my Piet up for the weekend. Mike C. PS-- will be driving to Osh after I bring the Piet home. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:56 PM PST US From: "John Ford" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> steve@byu.edu Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:21:08 PM >>> Just out of curiosity.... Who is planning to attend? John Ford Driving with wife and 2 kids West Terre Haute, Indiana ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:21 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call From: "Textor, Jack" Steve, I will be driving from Des Moines, IA. Look forward to meeting you. I have followed your and Mike's construction and adventures for years. Jack Textor Under Construction ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:31 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Jack, I flew through and spent a day at Morning Star airfield 5 years ago (5YEARS!!!) on my way to B-head in 1999. Great Hospitality! Stevee ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Textor, Jack Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Steve, I will be driving from Des Moines, IA. Look forward to meeting you. I have followed your and Mike's construction and adventures for years. Jack Textor Under Construction ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:08 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Greg Cardinal Driving (unless a miracle happens!) Minneapolis, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Just out of curiosity.. Who is planning to attend? Name __________________ Flying or driving _____________ Aircraft _______________ Departure point of origin _____________ Steve Eldredge (solo) Flying 1997 Pietenpol Aircamper A-65 Spanish Fork Utah Steve E ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:18:02 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call From: "Textor, Jack" Steve, It is still there! Let me know if you would want me to contact them for your arrival for gas, etc. Jack _____ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:01 PM PST US From: "Alex Sloan" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Just out of curiosity.. Who is planning to attend? Name __Alex Sloan________________ Flying or driving __Driving___________ Aircraft _______________ Departure point of origin ___Florence, Alabama__________ Steve Eldredge (solo) Flying 1997 Pietenpol Aircamper A-65 Spanish Fork Utah Steve E ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:14 PM PST US From: "Michael Conkling" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Hey Steve, Name -- Mike Conkling Driving -- got to stop by & pick up my hats!! Departure point of origin -- Pretty Prairie, KS Keep 'em Flying! Mike ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:04 PM PST US From: "James Dallas" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:04:43 -0500 Just out of curiosity.. Who is planning to attend? Name _Jim Dallas_________________ Flying or driving _more than likely driving____________ Aircraft _maybe a 150______________ Departure point of origin ___1k1 Benton__________ Motel or Camping_____camping Steve Eldredge (solo) Flying 1997 Pietenpol Aircamper A-65 Spanish Fork Utah Steve E ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:26 PM PST US From: "James Dallas" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:23:05 -0500 Mike, I hope you fly, I still need about 20 gazillion more pictures. If your airplanes not there I'll only get about 18 gazillion. Jim Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael D Cuy To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Steve-- if the forecast for that weekend looks promising I might bring my Piet up for the weekend. Mike C. PS-- will be driving to Osh after I bring the Piet home. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:10 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com Steve, I'll be going Wichita to Brodhead...via the 'Southern Route'. Take off here in the middle of July, head to Dallas and hook up with Jim M., Max D., Terry B., Hank S. Then over to Shreveport Louisiana to meet Corky and Isabelle, then up to Brodhead, and on up to Oshkosh. I'm planning on going on north up around Lake Michigan, climb to the highest altitude she's ever been to, to cross the lake near the Macanac Bridge, down thru the state of Michigan and thru Ohio to Columbus, then on to my hometown of Wheeling WV. Then back to Wichita, thru St. Louis and meet up with Dennis E. My big adventure will be three weeks right, now, but I'm trying to get one more week off work (unpaid) to complete. If I can't get that last week off, I might not make it to Oshkosh, instead go home to Wheeling. Any other Pietenpolers along this route, please let me know, and maybe we can meet at some small airport along this route I have planned !! It's the ONLY way to see Americana !! I'm really looking forward to this journey. Chuck Gantzer NX770CG ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:27 PM PST US From: "John Dilatush" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Just out of curiosity.. Who is planning to attend? Name John Dilatush (Solo) Flying or driving Flying Aircraft "Mountain Piet" Departure point of origin Salida, Colorado Steve Eldredge (solo) Flying 1997 Pietenpol Aircamper A-65 Spanish Fork Utah Steve E ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:13 PM PST US From: "Cinda Gadd" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Skip Gadd 172 flying if VFR, driving if not Elizabeth WV Just out of curiosity. Who is planning to attend? Name __________________ Flying or driving _____________ Aircraft _______________ Departure point of origin _____________ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:41 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Just out of curiosity.. Who is planning to attend? Name __Jim Markle Flying or driving ___flying to Milwaukee Fri am, renting a car, driving to Brodhead and driving back to Milwaukee for a flight home Sunday am. Aircraft __Yes, slowly but surely...... Departure point of origin __Plano, TX ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:46 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Usually, flying to Madison MSN is cheaper and the rental cars are cheaper there too. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Markle To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2004 roll call Just out of curiosity.. Who is planning to attend? Name __Jim Markle Flying or driving ___flying to Milwaukee Fri am, renting a car, driving to Brodhead and driving back to Milwaukee for a flight home Sunday am. Aircraft __Yes, slowly but surely...... Departure point of origin __Plano, TX ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:46 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Pietenpol-List: ebay piet auction It sounds like Doug Bryant is selling out... Chuck? Chris