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1. 12:41 PM - Fw: FOR SALE ROTAX 503 DCDI , prop,etc. (Robert Doebler)
2. 01:10 PM - Subject: 4 inch wider fuselage advice (Jim Cooper)
3. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 06/18/04 ()
4. 01:49 PM - Re: Subject: 4 inch wider fuselage advice (Christian Bobka)
5. 07:36 PM - Prop? (WPTCorp@aol.com)
6. 07:49 PM - Re: cabane X brace cables (Borodent@aol.com)
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Subject: | Fwd: FOR SALE ROTAX 503 DCDI , prop,etc. |
Note: forwarded message attached.
From: Robert Doebler <doebler@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: FOR SALE ROTAX 503 DCDI , prop,etc.
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I'm selling a Rotax 503DCDI with: electric start/oil injection/b-gear box/remote
choke/throttle & choke cables/Rotax oil tank with low oil sensor, and indicator/3
blade Ivoprop, ground adjustable, 62" prop/lord mounts/muffler/shielded
ignition wires/ignition switch/kill switch/upgraded regulator/2-5 gallon fuel
tanks/solid-state fuel sensor with gauge/dual EGT/dual CHT/mini tach& hour meter/gel
battery/manuals. Total hours are 51. I haven't flown in a couple of years,
so decided to part out firestar II. No crash damage or abuse.It is still on
ultralight, so come see and hear it run. Local only, too heavy to ship.
Appoximately 35 miles NorthWest of Los Angeles, Ca.
Bob Doebler
66 Dapplegray Rd.
Bell Canyon, Ca. 91307
1-818-348-7075
doebler@sbcglobal.net
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I'm selling a Rotax 503DCDI with: electric start/oil injection/b-gear box/remote
choke/throttle choke cables/Rotax oil tank with low oil sensor, and indicator/3
blade Ivoprop, ground adjustable, 62" prop/lord mounts/muffler/shielded ignition
wires/ignition switch/kill switch/upgraded regulator/2-5 gallon fuel tanks/solid-state
fuel sensor with gauge/dual EGT/dual CHT/mini tach hour meter/gel
battery/manuals. Total hours are 51. I haven't flown in a couple of years,
so decided to part out firestar II. No crash damage or abuse.It is still on
ultralight, so come see and hear it run. Local only, too heavy to ship.
Appoximately 35 miles NorthWest of Los Angeles, Ca.
Bob Doebler
66 Dapplegray Rd.
Bell Canyon, Ca. 91307
1-818-348-7075
doebler@sbcglobal.net
--0-1507143955-1087685522=:29157--
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Subject: | 4 inch wider fuselage advice |
I'm no expert on these matters, but we bought someone else's GN1 project with a
welded 4130 steel tube fuselage that had been widened unevenly, and the rear
cockpit is somewhat wider than the front cockpit. When attaching a Cub J3 landing
gear that we bought seperately, we found that landing gear was not even with
the center line, and the wheels were towed in toward the front. From our best
information, it seems that the wheels should parallel the center line. As a
result my partner, who is more of an expert than I has had to make adjustments
by adding about ten pounds of square tubing under the fuselage to reposition
the brackets that hold the landing gear to straighten the wheels out so that
they are aligned with the center line. Hopefully this may help others avoid making
the same mistake. Jim Cooper
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 06/18/04 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Hi Don,
If you look in the archives you can probably find several instances of this discussion.
But the short version is - the reason Ash is specified is for its shock
absorption qualities (the same reason Ash is used for ax handles, baseball
bats and gymnastics parallel bars). Those planks tend to absorb the shock of
landing loads if your landings are less than perfect. Besides, Ash does not
split or crack easily. I would not substitute Oak.
I found ash available in 1-1/4" thick planks 6' long at a local lumberyard. When
I asked if it was white ash, they just laughed and said "Ash is ash". I don't
know if there is a specific lumber known as white ash. I selected pieces
with the grain as tight as I could find, and roughly parallel to the wide faces
of the boards. It works nicely and doesn't splinter (another nice characteristic
of ash which makes it ideal for tool handles). I don't remember what I
paid for it but I recall it wasn't cheap, and that it cost more than Oak.
If at all possible I would find and use ash for this application. Besides, it
is pretty.
Jack Phillips
Still painting NX899JP in Raleigh, NC
>
> From: ADonJr@aol.com
> Date: 2004/06/20 Sun AM 12:07:20 EDT
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 06/18/04
>
> Hey, Fellas! (and gals, too, if any),
> I have read everything I have about wood, and except for one comment that
> hardwoods are mainly used in block form, I can find nothing about the
> selection and use of hardwood. I am particularly wondering about the two pieces
of
> white ash in the fuselage, between the landing gear fittings. The plans
> specify 3/4 X 2" cross members at the floor level.
> How do you select the wood for these pieces...quarter sawn, vertical
> grain, yadda, yadda, yadda or what? Could you substitute oak? I'd eally
> appreciate the help of anyone who has dealt with this problem. Thanks in advance.
> Don Cooley
> Fairfield, CA
>
> P.S. Wish I could join you at Brodhead, maybe next year! DC
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 4 inch wider fuselage advice |
Now you know why the project was sold!
Chris
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cooper
To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4 inch wider fuselage advice
I'm no expert on these matters, but we bought someone else's GN1 project with
a welded 4130 steel tube fuselage that had been widened unevenly, and the rear
cockpit is somewhat wider than the front cockpit. When attaching a Cub J3 landing
gear that we bought seperately, we found that landing gear was not even
with the center line, and the wheels were towed in toward the front. From our
best information, it seems that the wheels should parallel the center line. As
a result my partner, who is more of an expert than I has had to make adjustments
by adding about ten pounds of square tubing under the fuselage to reposition
the brackets that hold the landing gear to straighten the wheels out so that
they are aligned with the center line. Hopefully this may help others avoid
making the same mistake. Jim Cooper
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Would someone help me a little. I live in Wyoming 5250 Elevation and have a
110 hp piet. with a blower fan motor no starter, hand prop only. Have 65/30
home made wood prop but am only getting 2250 rpms static and would like a little
higher rpms. Was looking at a Warp drive but was told that a three blade was
the only one they would recommend. I just want the best bang for my buck.
Thanks David
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Subject: | Re: cabane X brace cables |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Borodent@aol.com
Has anyone considered or done the folowing? Comments welcome
I am installing brackets for cabane struts
My concern is, I believe its possible for a piet to nose over and land upside
down - with the wing acting as your roll cage. Wouldnt it be an improvement
instead of having the X support ( from bottom of say rear left cabane to top
of rear right cabane and visa versa ) instead of cables and turnbuckles - use
strut sectrions or tube or rod.
Wouldnt this make a much stronger roll cage??
Is my concern about roll over exagerated??
Of course this has a small weight penallty
Henry Williams
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