Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 06/30/04


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:45 AM - Peter Johnson's Web Site (Michael D Cuy)
     2. 05:59 AM - Re: Turtle Deck Stringers (Michael D Cuy)
     3. 06:46 AM - broadhead hotels (Douwe Blumberg)
     4. 07:06 AM - New student (Bill Church)
     5. 07:28 AM - Re: New student (Michael D Cuy)
     6. 07:30 AM - Re: Turtle Deck Stringers (DJ Vegh)
     7. 09:37 AM - Re: New student (Alex Sloan)
     8. 10:47 AM - Re: New student (Bill Church)
     9. 08:24 PM - Re: New student (Richard Navratil)
    10. 09:13 PM - Re: New student ()
    11. 09:56 PM - Re: New student (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:45:24 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Peter Johnson's Web Site
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> G'Day, Peter and wow, what a fantastic web site you have developed and some great, great photos of your construction process. Your workmanship looks just as good too. Do you know Simon McCormack in Tasmania ? He's just finished a nice red and cream Ford Pietenpol Air Camper and is working on his PPL at the time. Downloading all your photos and such is well worth the wait. Your Corvair engine looks spotless ! Thanks for sharing some great information on the web for everyone here. Mike C. >Check out http://www.cpc-world.com for more info. > >Cheers > >Peter. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard >Schreiber >Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:53 AM >To: pietenpol list >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle Deck Stringers > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Richard Schreiber ><schreib@netnitco.net> > >I have been trying to figure out the location of the turtle deck >stringers, but it has me stumped. Should each of the stringers be >perfectly straight form the front arch support aft of the rear seat to >the horizontal stabilizer, or do they take on more of a curve as they >get closer to the top fuselage longerons? I started out by constructing >the front arch support and locating each of the stringer slots >equidistant around the support. Using a string from the top of the front >arch support to the horizontal stab, I determined the proper height and >width of each of the remaining two turtle deck arch supports. I then >constructed blank arch supports and placed them in the proper location. >Using a chalk line I then determined the location of each of the >stingers (I am using 9 insted of 7). Using this method the stringers are >straight, but they are not spaced evenly around the arch support. I >tried it again this time using dummy arch supports made of 1/8 plastic >sheet. I spaced the stringers evenly around the arch, with the slot for >the stringers cut on the radius of the arch. Doing it this way the >stringers are evenly spaced, but they take on more of a bowed appearance >as they get closer to the fuselage side. > >What is the correct spacing? > >Thanks, > >Rick Schreiber > >Valparaiso, IN > >


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    Time: 05:59:12 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Turtle Deck Stringers
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Richard-- I sent you a bunch of photos and sketches off line (so I wouldn't clutter up everyone's e-mail in-box here) that should help. Glad you posted your question--it is a good one. Photos speak more than a thousand words here. Mike C. in Ohio PS-- Valparasio is one of my favorite stops on the way to and from Wisconsin. A nice airport and good EAA Chapter that puts on a great under-the-tent bratwurst and burger lunch for anyone passing thru.


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    Time: 06:46:41 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: broadhead hotels
    Can anybody recommend a local hotel or B&B around Broadhead? Thanks, Douwe


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    Time: 07:06:09 AM PST US
    From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
    Subject: New student
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> Hey everyone, As of next week my wife will have completed her training as a kindergarten teacher, and it becomes my turn to further my education. So, yesterday I paid my first instalment of my tuition in Pietenpol U. (I ordered the complete set of plans from Don Pietenpol). And, today I will place my order for the set of Bingelis books, as recommended (once or twice) by Professor Cuy. My question for the list is this: Are there any other "must haves" or even "should haves" that any of you would recommend to the novice builder. Bill


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    Time: 07:28:05 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Re: New student
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Way to go, Bill ! The only other thing you might want to do it try to hit Bhead and take your tape measure, video camera, still camera, and notepad and see what you like, what you don't and what you'd like to incorporate and what you'd like to leave out. Thanks for the new title but I'm just a technician technically burning jet fuel and air all day long and torturing jet engine parts before they try them out in the real thing. Mike C.


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    Time: 07:30:26 AM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Re: Turtle Deck Stringers
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> here's the turtleneck page of my site. shows the entire process. http://imagedv.com/aircamper/Log/image-pages/10-27-02.htm DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Schreiber" <schreib@netnitco.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle Deck Stringers > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Richard Schreiber <schreib@netnitco.net> > > I have been trying to figure out the location of the turtle deck > stringers, but it has me stumped. Should each of the stringers be > perfectly straight form the front arch support aft of the rear seat to > the horizontal stabilizer, or do they take on more of a curve as they > get closer to the top fuselage longerons? I started out by constructing > the front arch support and locating each of the stringer slots > equidistant around the support. Using a string from the top of the front > arch support to the horizontal stab, I determined the proper height and > width of each of the remaining two turtle deck arch supports. I then > constructed blank arch supports and placed them in the proper location. > Using a chalk line I then determined the location of each of the > stingers (I am using 9 insted of 7). Using this method the stringers are > straight, but they are not spaced evenly around the arch support. I > tried it again this time using dummy arch supports made of 1/8 plastic > sheet. I spaced the stringers evenly around the arch, with the slot for > the stringers cut on the radius of the arch. Doing it this way the > stringers are evenly spaced, but they take on more of a bowed appearance > as they get closer to the fuselage side. > > What is the correct spacing? > > Thanks, > > Rick Schreiber > > Valparaiso, IN > >


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    Time: 09:37:52 AM PST US
    From: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: New student
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net> Bill, Sounds like you are on track with the first important items. Next question, are you a member of EAA and if so do you belong to an EAA chapter? There is a wealth of help avaiable through the assistance of EAA Technical Counselors and from EAA Information Services. All free for the asking. Joe Norris in Information Services is an IA and very knowledgable on all phases of building and especially Pietenpols. A good man. Alex Sloan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New student --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> Hey everyone, As of next week my wife will have completed her training as a kindergarten teacher, and it becomes my turn to further my education. So, yesterday I paid my first instalment of my tuition in Pietenpol U. (I ordered the complete set of plans from Don Pietenpol). And, today I will place my order for the set of Bingelis books, as recommended (once or twice) by Professor Cuy. My question for the list is this: Are there any other "must haves" or even "should haves" that any of you would recommend to the novice builder. Bill


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    Time: 10:47:43 AM PST US
    From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
    Subject: New student
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> Alex, Thanks for the advice. Membership looks like a good idea, but chapters are few and far between on this side of the border (the Great White North). Hard to believe, but the closest chapter to Toronto (the biggest city in Canada) is about an hour's drive. Go figure. Thanks also to Jim Markle and Mike Cuy for the helpful advice. This is going to be (long term) fun! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alex Sloan Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New student --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net> Bill, Sounds like you are on track with the first important items. Next question, are you a member of EAA and if so do you belong to an EAA chapter? There is a wealth of help avaiable through the assistance of EAA Technical Counselors and from EAA Information Services. All free for the asking... Alex Sloan


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    Time: 08:24:00 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: New student
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> Dont forget a copy of Mike mCuys video for insperation. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New student > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> > > Hey everyone, > > As of next week my wife will have completed her training as a kindergarten > teacher, and it becomes my turn to further my education. So, yesterday I > paid my first instalment of my tuition in Pietenpol U. (I ordered the > complete set of plans from Don Pietenpol). And, today I will place my order > for the set of Bingelis books, as recommended (once or twice) by Professor > Cuy. > My question for the list is this: Are there any other "must haves" or even > "should haves" that any of you would recommend to the novice builder. > > Bill > >


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    Time: 09:13:16 PM PST US
    From: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: New student
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> Catalogs from both Aircraft Spruce and Wicks. A price list from Dillsburg Aeroplane Works. A copy of AC 43.13B. EAA Wood Handbook EAA Welding Handbook That is a good start. Greg Cardinal in Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com> <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New student > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> > > Hey everyone, > > As of next week my wife will have completed her training as a kindergarten > teacher, and it becomes my turn to further my education. So, yesterday I > paid my first instalment of my tuition in Pietenpol U. (I ordered the > complete set of plans from Don Pietenpol). And, today I will place my order > for the set of Bingelis books, as recommended (once or twice) by Professor > Cuy. > My question for the list is this: Are there any other "must haves" or even > "should haves" that any of you would recommend to the novice builder. > > Bill > > ============================= Forum - through the Contributions banner ads or any other Matronics Forums. > ============================= http://www.matronics.com/chat > ============================= pietenpol-list@matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/subscription http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm http://www.matronics.com/search http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list http://www.matronics.com/chat http://www.matronics.com/archives http://www.matronics.com/photoshare http://www.matronics.com/pietenpol-list http://www.matronics.com/emaillists http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ============================= > >


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    Time: 09:56:48 PM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: New student
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> Hi Bill, I'm across the country in Vancouver. You haven't mentioned anything about the RAA so I'm assuming you don't know so here's links; http://www.raa.ca/ for the National http://www3.sympatico.ca/mac1/ This is the Brampton airport chapter, 12 miles(20 clicks) Northwest of CYYZ. We have our own tech councilors etc. Brampton also is home to 3 air-aba inspectors. They will be passing your plane as airworthy when it's finished. Might be good to get to know them. Clif > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> > > > Alex, > Thanks for the advice. > Membership looks like a good idea, but chapters are few and far between on > this side of the border (the Great White North). Hard to believe, but the > closest chapter to Toronto (the biggest city in Canada) is about an hour's > drive. Go figure.




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