---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/13/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:22 AM - Pietepol (N1195P) and GN-1 project for sale (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com) 2. 07:23 AM - Tick Hill Information (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 3. 07:43 AM - Re: Pietepol (N1195P) and GN-1 project for sale (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 4. 03:30 PM - Sun'n'Fun Woodworking Tent (Doc Mosher) 5. 03:58 PM - Sloshing the fuel tank (Christian Bobka) 6. 04:58 PM - Re: Sloshing the fuel tank (DJ Vegh) 7. 06:36 PM - Re: Sloshing the fuel tank (Graham Hansen) 8. 08:27 PM - Brodhead ammenities / trips to Mckormicks (tmbrant1@netzero.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:05 AM PST US From: KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietepol (N1195P) and GN-1 project for sale 0.0 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From: contains numbers mixed in with letters Pietenpol and GN-1 for sale and to be listed on Bay after Oshkosh. The Pietenpol (N1195P) was built in 1998, signed off by Atlanta FSDO but never flown. Please see Buckeye Pietenpol Website about this airplane. The original ad is still intact (dated 2-28-03) and was posted by the builder, Robert Linton of Mineral Bluff, GA. This airplane was never truly airworthy because when I got it home, I found a few defects concerning the construction. My inspection resulted in removing all of the fabric from the fuselage and wings. There are no gussets inside the fuselage in the tailcone but this can be fixed. In addition, the builder didn't prime or paint any of the metal parts inside the center section, wings and fuselage (don't ask me why...) Some of the metal parts in the wings holding compression struts need to be rebuilt, not do to rust, but to make them safer. A plywood section along the bottom in the tailcone needs to be replaced because of delamination from water damage. I think the plywood would be an easy fix. I think the woodwork on the wings is good and it appears that someone else may have actually built the ribs and spars. This airplane has a wing tank in the center section and a fuselage tank. Both are fiberglass, but the fuselage tank leaks. The builder ran a copper tube into the main tank from the wing tank and at this juncture, the copper turns easily in the tank. It needs to be rebuilt, an easy task if you have fiberglass experience. Also, the builder didn't use any turnbuckles on many of the wires and I'd suggest that the wires in the cabane area are too small and need to be replaced. I am keeping the engine and a few small items from the panel and the primer. I would further advise that all metal parts need to be sand blasted, primed and painted because of rust issues. The builder didn't use any primer on any metal parts. I have sand blasted the motor mount and cabanes and had them powder coated Bahama Blue. These parts now look very nice. The Pietenpol (fuselage and wings) might be trailered to Broadhead so interested parties can inspect the project and make a determination as to suitability. The GN-1 project is an 80% completed fuselage and it is so fine, I suspect it was built by a professional cabinet maker! The original ad for this is also posted on the Buckeye Pietenpol Website and I purchased this from D.J. Vegh about 4 months ago. All the wood is available to complete this airplane and nearly all the ribs are finished. D.J. Vegh built the ribs and he is very fastidious. The sale includes D.J.'s original rib jig and his laser cut metal plates. The fuselage is mounted on J3-Cub gear legs and includes a J3-Cub fuselage gas tank and tail wheel. I can provide more details about the GN-1 later. Sterling Brooks sterling@pgrb.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:35 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tick Hill Information --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com Howdy, For those who are planning to attend the Hamburger cookout at Tick Hill on Sunday afternoon.... I have added some files on the Mykitplane website to help you find Tick Hill. There's photos and maps.. check it out. http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/filesList2.cfm?AlbumID=55 This is a new airstrip since December. Dirt work was completed in February this year. We have been blessed with a lot of rain this year which has helped our turf off to a good start. About two weeks ago...I was able to fly the Taylorcraft in and out within 24 hours of a 3 inch rain. Y'all come see us. -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:34 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietepol (N1195P) and GN-1 project for sale Sterling-- It doesn't sound like you are Pietenpol poor these days, thats for sure. But if you are looking to find a good solid airplane to be flying soon and at a good price... I recommend you take a look at Morris Norwood's GN-1 for sale nearby here in Hewitt, TX. It is a GN1 built in 1986 with a Continental A65. See attached pic. It has a little over 300 hours on it. Engine is low time. Currently LH wing is removed for wingtip & leading edge repairs due to taxi-hangar incident. The spar was not damaged. Mr. Norwood is asking $7000.00. Lon and I could help you make these repairs here in our shop and allow you to fly it home within just a few weeks. Mr. Norwood is planning to attend at Tick Hill this weekend. Perhaps you can ride over and look at the airplane with him (about 30 minute drive from Tick Hill). If I didn't have 6 kids to feed and clothe, I would buy it and fly it all summer... then take it down this winter for some changes to meet my personal preference. I would add cub-style cowling and repaint the fabric. Its a good airplane. Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:24 PM PST US From: Doc Mosher Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun'n'Fun Woodworking Tent --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Doc Mosher According to the June 1004 "Sun'n'Fun News": "Several of the Sun'n'Fun's educational workshops were approved by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for Inspection Authorization (IA) Refresher Training courses. The designation recognizes the high quality and content of the information presented. Congratulations to workshop chairman Vic Boyce and his volunteer crew. This is a tremendous honor for Sun'n'Fun and all the people who work so hard to coordinate and present our educational activities." And we all know who the "volunteer crew" people are! Good going, guys! Doc Mosher Oshkosh USA ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:12 PM PST US d="scan'217,208"; a="115794267:sNHT17190706" From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sloshing the fuel tank Don't slosh. You will regret it. Chris Bobka ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I've just finished my aluminum fuel tank. I think I will slush it just for peace of mind. Can anybody recommend a slushing compound that is impervious to both av and car gas? Douwe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:43 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sloshing the fuel tank ok... I'll bite..... what's to regret in sloshing a tank? please educate the uneducated. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Bobka To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sloshing the fuel tank Don't slosh. You will regret it. Chris Bobka ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I've just finished my aluminum fuel tank. I think I will slush it just for peace of mind. Can anybody recommend a slushing compound that is impervious to both av and car gas? Douwe ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:47 PM PST US From: "Graham Hansen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sloshing the fuel tank Douwe, I sloshed my Pietenpol fuel tank in 1985, thinking this was a good idea. About 15 years later I had to build a new tank because the sloshing sealer had deteriorated and bits of it were floating around in the gasoline. Not a good situation!! Pressure steam cleaning didn't remove the sealer, and only made the situation worse. Perhaps it would have been OK with 80/87 had this fuel remained on the market. Alas, I had to switch to autogas and that may have been a factor. I dunno. In the meantime I, like Chris, don't recommend sloshing and I won't do it again. Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:07 PM PST US From: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead ammenities / trips to Mckormicks --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" I've been off the list for a while but am hoping the upcoming trip to Brodhead will be what it takes to get me back in the game. Too many other projects have taken priority this summer. Does Brodhead have showers and bathrooms? I went last year but only for a couple hours while on the way to Oshkosh. Looking forward to spending the weekend there. Anyone planning a trip to Mckormick's Lumber in Madison while at Brodhead? I may go over and pick up some wing spar material. Tom B.