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1. 06:13 AM - Re: Brodhead ammenities / trips to Mckormicks (Textor, Jack)
2. 07:28 AM - covering suggestions (Steve Eldredge)
3. 07:43 AM - insurance (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: insurance (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com)
5. 08:22 AM - Re: insurance (Isablcorky@aol.com)
6. 10:55 AM - Re: insurance (Mike King)
7. 12:25 PM - insurance (Michael D Cuy)
8. 12:28 PM - Watermellon Drops (Michael D Cuy)
9. 01:49 PM - Re: Watermellon Drops (Isablcorky@aol.com)
10. 01:54 PM - Re: Watermellon Drops (Michael D Cuy)
11. 02:04 PM - Ken Chambers (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
12. 02:04 PM - Re: Watermellon Drops (Jim Markle)
13. 02:13 PM - Re: Watermellon Drops (John Ford)
14. 03:33 PM - piets w/smoke at brodhead? (tmbrant1@netzero.net)
15. 03:39 PM - product available at Brodhead (tmbrant1@netzero.net)
16. 03:56 PM - Re: product available at Brodhead (Jim Markle)
17. 05:41 PM - Re: Ken Perkins wheel hubs (ADonJr@aol.com)
18. 08:16 PM - Brodhead (Jeff Hill)
19. 08:26 PM - Re: Watermellon Drops (Richard Navratil)
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| Subject: | Brodhead ammenities / trips to Mckormicks |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Textor, Jack" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
Tom,
Best I can remember there are 3 showers, hope to meet you there.
Jack
Des Moines
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| Subject: | covering suggestions |
Anyone have an opinion on the covering systems of choice? I'm about to
cover my 108-2.
Aircraft will be hangared.
I want a shiny finish (I think)
I don't want problems with the coatings in the future.
I have used polyfiber before and like the process
I have not used ceconite, and don't know anything about nitrate dopes
(except they are flammable)
Leaning toward Air-Tech coatings.
I want a custom color. (deep purple and chrome yellow I think)
Any suggestions welcome....
Steve Eldredge
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Well, I'm back from 35th anniversary vacation trip to Tahiti! Signed back
onto the list and hope I didn't miss too much during the last 10 days or so.
Mike wrote-
>I have just finished having my GN-1 inspected and ready to fly.
>Question is, after two years of inactivity and no insurance, who do you
>guys
>use for insurance coverage?
>Previous, I used Butler-Brown and paid around $700 for liability
>and $10,000 full-hull coverage. I am now awaiting a quote. I would be
>interested in finding out what other companies insure
>the PIET and what present day premiums can be expected.
Well, of course you know you're not insuring a Pietenpol... you're insuring
a Grega! But that aside, I just got insurance on NX41CC through Falcon, the
EAA underwriter (also headquartered in Texas). Liability alone is $600/year
and adding hull coverage of $15,000 doubles the premium to about $1200/yr.
but I'm not a high-time pilot (under 500 hrs.) and have zero Piet time.
Plenty of tailwheel time, but they want time in type, I guess.
Interestingly, the agent told me that they are required to inform me that
there is an additional premium if I want to include coverage if my airplane
is used for terroristic acts (I declined the coverage). I almost fell out
of my chair laughing (and so did he), especially since my ferry pilot
Charlie had just told me about the ferry flight from Shreveport, LA to
Zapata, TX with GPS groundspeeds sometimes around 35 MPH and having farm
implements on the ground passing him up. Picture a Piet zooming through
tightly-guarded TFR airspace, with the pilot determined to get to the
President and Secretary of Defense, flour bomb (or toilet paper roll) in
hand, ready to drop...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Oscar, you have underestimated the power of the mighty Pietenpol. A friend of
mine successfully dropped adobe bricks (albeit one per flight) from his
Pietenpol onto fire ant mounds. Never did any damage to the fire ants, but made
them mighty mad.
Plata
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Oscar,
Happy your back. Poor ole Charlie didn't tell me how long it took him from
Bryan to Zapata but when I called him he had been on the ground only 5 minutes
and it was near dark in Louisiana. Hope you enjoy 41CC.
Corky and Isabelle
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike King" <mikek120@mindspring.com>
Oscar,
Congratulations on getting your plane delivered to Texas.
By the way, I did get my Grega insured through Butler-Brown
Insurance. Their underwriter is in Addison, Texas, just a few
blocks from my office near the Addison airport.
Well anyway, liability was quoted at $350.00 and for liability
AND full hull coverage at $10,000 brought the total to $560.00
for the year. Needless to say, I jumped on it last Friday so the
plane is now fully insured for less than $600.00.
Let's try to get the PIETs and GN-1s of Texas for a get together
while it is still only 100 degrees.
Take care.
Mike King
GN-1
77MK
Dallas, Texas
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Oscar Zuniga
Subject: Pietenpol-List: insurance
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
Well, I'm back from 35th anniversary vacation trip to Tahiti!
Signed back
onto the list and hope I didn't miss too much during the last 10
days or so.
Mike wrote-
>I have just finished having my GN-1 inspected and ready to fly.
>Question is, after two years of inactivity and no insurance, who
do you
>guys
>use for insurance coverage?
>Previous, I used Butler-Brown and paid around $700 for liability
>and $10,000 full-hull coverage. I am now awaiting a quote. I
would be
>interested in finding out what other companies insure
>the PIET and what present day premiums can be expected.
Well, of course you know you're not insuring a Pietenpol...
you're insuring
a Grega! But that aside, I just got insurance on NX41CC through
Falcon, the
EAA underwriter (also headquartered in Texas). Liability alone
is $600/year
and adding hull coverage of $15,000 doubles the premium to about
$1200/yr.
but I'm not a high-time pilot (under 500 hrs.) and have zero Piet
time.
Plenty of tailwheel time, but they want time in type, I guess.
Interestingly, the agent told me that they are required to inform
me that
there is an additional premium if I want to include coverage if
my airplane
is used for terroristic acts (I declined the coverage). I almost
fell out
of my chair laughing (and so did he), especially since my ferry
pilot
Charlie had just told me about the ferry flight from Shreveport,
LA to
Zapata, TX with GPS groundspeeds sometimes around 35 MPH and
having farm
implements on the ground passing him up. Picture a Piet zooming
through
tightly-guarded TFR airspace, with the pilot determined to get to
the
President and Secretary of Defense, flour bomb (or toilet paper
roll) in
hand, ready to drop...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Oscar-- My Piet premium from a local agent here is $380/year for liability
to include passenger but NO hull. Falcon was too high for my liking. The
only way I would insure the hull is if I had a loan out on it. My logic
is that you won't get anyone to rebuild a plane like that but yourself for
the money they would give you-----esp. is you just bang a wingtip or shred
a prop. Very few shops know fabric work anymore either.
Mike
PS-- congratulations on becoming a new Piet owner !!!
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| Subject: | Watermellon Drops |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
I hear tell that watermellons make a helluva footprint when dropped on firm
ground.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Watermellon Drops |
Mike,
Might I suggest a fleet of Piets with a bag of piggies under each wing for a
flight over Iraq, Afgan, Paki, Iran, Saudi and any other of those pig loving
communities. How many Piets could be carried in a C-5 with wings removed? With
fuel so cheap in Iraq we could easily ask the beauros for a little help. Might
be fun. Sure would create some excitement.
YKW
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| Subject: | Re: Watermellon Drops |
I'd hate to hurt the pigs tho, Corky !
At 04:48 PM 7/14/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Mike,
>Might I suggest a fleet of Piets with a bag of piggies under each wing for
>a flight over Iraq, Afgan, Paki, Iran, Saudi and any other of those pig
>loving communities. How many Piets could be carried in a C-5 with wings
>removed? With fuel so cheap in Iraq we could easily ask the beauros for a
>little help. Might be fun. Sure would create some excitement.
>YKW
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Ken... are you still out there lurking? Please Email me.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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| Subject: | Re: Watermellon Drops |
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| Subject: | Re: Watermellon Drops |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
You guys ought to organize a flower-bag contest at Brodhead. It would
be fun to watch...
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
>>> Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:54:25 PM >>>
I'd hate to hurt the pigs tho, Corky !
At 04:48 PM 7/14/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Mike,
>Might I suggest a fleet of Piets with a bag of piggies under each wing
for
>a flight over Iraq, Afgan, Paki, Iran, Saudi and any other of those
pig
>loving communities. How many Piets could be carried in a C-5 with
wings
>removed? With fuel so cheap in Iraq we could easily ask the beauros
for a
>little help. Might be fun. Sure would create some excitement.
>YKW
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| Subject: | piets w/smoke at brodhead? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Will there be any smoke systems represented at Brodhead this year? I've seen the
photos but would love to see it in person.
Tom B.
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| Subject: | product available at Brodhead |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Wondering what kind of products I might find at Brodhead - how big of checkbook
should I bring? Hopefully Mike C. will bring videos, Steve. E. bringing hats
- are there any other airplane related items that people are bringing - IE:
hubs, props, projects, etc....
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Re: product available at Brodhead |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
I'm bringing a bunch of stuff I won't be using on my project, brake cylinders,
a bunch of metal fittings I won't be using, etc.
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: product available at Brodhead
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Wondering what kind of products I might find at Brodhead - how big of checkbook
should I bring? Hopefully Mike C. will bring videos, Steve. E. bringing hats
- are there any other airplane related items that people are bringing - IE:
hubs, props, projects, etc....
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Re: Ken Perkins wheel hubs |
Hey, Piet Guys, (and Gals),
Not having welding skills, and wanting wire wheels for my Piet, I ordered
a set of hubs from Ken. They came almost immediately and are beautiful!
They feature Model T grease caps and excellent workmanship. I recommend them to
anyone who can't, or doesn't want to fabricate his/her own.
Don, (still
cleaning out the garage) Cooley
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jeff Hill" <jeff2dogs@hotmail.com>
Just out of curiosity.
Who is planning to attend?
Name _______Jeff Hill___________
Flying or driving __hope to be flying in a buddies Baron to
Monroe___________
Aircraft _______________
Departure point of origin __Trophy Club, TX (DFW area)___________
Hope to see lots of you guys there.
Jeff
http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: Watermellon Drops |
Be real carefull here Corky. You don't want to get those watermelon rights groups
mad.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Watermellon Drops
Mike,
Might I suggest a fleet of Piets with a bag of piggies under each wing for a
flight over Iraq, Afgan, Paki, Iran, Saudi and any other of those pig loving communities.
How many Piets could be carried in a C-5 with wings removed? With
fuel so cheap in Iraq we could easily ask the beauros for a little help. Might
be fun. Sure would create some excitement.
YKW
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