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1. 12:39 AM - Control Horns (rod wooller)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: Control Horns (Christian Bobka)
3. 06:50 AM - sport pilot (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 08:16 AM - Sport Pilot (Barry Davis)
5. 08:19 AM - Re: Using a VW engine in a Pietenpol (Michael D Cuy)
6. 08:53 AM - Re: Corky the Sport Pilot (Carl D. Vought)
7. 09:13 AM - Insurance (Mike King)
8. 05:00 PM - Texas Air Camper Pilots & Wannabees (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com)
9. 07:08 PM - TACO membership addendum (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com)
10. 07:41 PM - Re: Insurance (Alex Sloan)
11. 07:52 PM - sport pilot (Richard Navratil)
12. 09:15 PM - Re: Insurance (DJ Vegh)
13. 09:15 PM - Re: sport pilot (DJ Vegh)
14. 09:28 PM - Photos posted - Tick Hill (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
15. 09:34 PM - Re: I just got this from Cy Galley at EAA (Catdesign)
16. 10:15 PM - Sport Pilot question (DJ Vegh)
17. 10:24 PM - Re: Sport Pilot question (DJ Vegh)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rod wooller" <rodwooller@hotmail.com>
I am buiding the control horns for the rudder and elevators and notice that
if I use an AN3 bolt and locknut to fasten the horn, the height of the nut
is such that it will protrude into the fabric covering, although the bolt
head should clear it OK.
I am thinking of using an AN316 thin check nut and peining the bolt end over
to stop it comeing loose, but would appreciate some advice.
Many thanks
Rod Wooller
Chidlow
Australia
Wishing you all a great time at Brodhead l
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d="scan'208"; a="125006963:sNHT13765346"
| Subject: | Re: Control Horns |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
The hardware on the Monocoupe my buddy has was peened over at that very
location.
chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "rod wooller" <rodwooller@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control Horns
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rod wooller"
<rodwooller@hotmail.com>
>
> I am buiding the control horns for the rudder and elevators and notice
that
> if I use an AN3 bolt and locknut to fasten the horn, the height of the nut
> is such that it will protrude into the fabric covering, although the bolt
> head should clear it OK.
> I am thinking of using an AN316 thin check nut and peining the bolt end
over
> to stop it comeing loose, but would appreciate some advice.
>
> Many thanks
> Rod Wooller
> Chidlow
> Australia
>
> Wishing you all a great time at Brodhead l
>
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Can you guys give me the details of what sport pilot is?
Or where I can go to get the "dish"??
I remember with the recreational pilot thing, a lot of the flight schools didn't
want to do it, seemed they didn't make as much.
Douwe
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d="scan'217,208"; a="125781773:sNHT16758774"
I'm quessing that Sport Pilot will be announced at Oshkosh. I'm glad I'm going
to be part of the celebration.
See you @ Brodhead
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Using a VW engine in a Pietenpol |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Dave--- not to discount what Doc Mosher had posted about the newer line of
VW Aero Conversions out there ---- (they are great little engines) but you
might want to read this account authored by Andrew Pietenpol in regard to
using a VW variant on his Grandfather's design:
http://users.aol.com/bpanews/3questions.html
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Corky the Sport Pilot |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
What a refreshing demonstration of good manners and generosity!! Oscar, you
made my day!...Carl Vought/Huntsville, AL
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:15:46 -0500, "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
wrote :
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
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> Corky;
>
> The Sport Pilot "rule" is not quite a rule yet... I know you're kicking
> yourself, but it ain't over till the fat lady sings (not talking about
> Marion Blakey, either). I, too, distrust this bunch of "bureaus" as you
> call them- and until you see it in print, don't go jumping to conclusions.
>
> Not that I don't believe the thing will become reality eventually, but it
> seems to take a while for the FAA to understand even its own rules.
Witness
> the discussions we've had on this very list about local DAR's and
inspectors
> who don't know their own rules, even when you show 'em the book! Now go
> tell some crusty old FAA salt that you're going to go fly your airplane
> using only your valid driver's license, and see what he says!
>
> But hey, I'll gladly sell you NX41CC back, same price, same condition-
> anytime. You are a gentleman and a man of your word, and I want no ill
> feelings if you're having second thoughts. If you're just grousing in
> general (as I'm sure you are), I know why it is: your family quack (er,
> doctor) told you to swear off the Wild Turkey and branch water, and you
> don't have anything to take the edge off things anymore! I'm sitting
here
> sipping some wine after enjoying some grilled amberjack (freshly caught
in
> the Gulf) with rice, and wonder if I wouldn't be grousing too, if all I
had
> to sip was water.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Gang,
A couple of weeks ago I requested any information regarding
current insurance rates. My plane was down for two years but
is now current and ready to go.
Since that time, I have insured the plane with Butler-Brown
Insurance of Oskaloosa, Iowa.
1985 Grega GN-1
Hangered
Hull All Risk - $10,000
Deductibles: $100 Not in Motion
$1,000 in Motion
Liability - $1,000,000 combined single limits
$1000,000 per passenger
Medical Coverage - $3,000 per seat
Approved for Pleasure and business
Annual Premium - $560.00
Coverage held through US Specialty Insurance Company
Thanks for all your input. I hope this might help some builders
out there.
Mike King
GN-1
77MK
Dallas, Texas
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| Subject: | Texas Air Camper Pilots & Wannabees |
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I have membership cards for all the Texas folks who own or are building or
wanting an Air Camper. If you want to join this prestigious group (membership
fee is a bottle of Corona beer at the next meeting, but if you don't make the
next meeting, no problema, we can waiver the fee and send your card muy pronto
anyway.) Send me your snail-mail address as and I'll put your membership card
in the mail to you. We'll figure out the Corona hand-off some other time.
The new Texas group was kind of formed on Sunday during a moment of
enlightenment when Chuck Gantzer flew his Pietenpol over Terry Bowden's Tick Hill
Air
Field. "Wow" us wannabees said, as we gazed up into the sun when Chuck flew
over. (Maybe looking into the Texas sun is what provided the moment of
enLIGHTENment? Regardless, this was a good group of folks to meet and everyone
had a
great time. Terry and LeAnn cooked up a great round of burgers and proved that
Texas Hospitality (and Bowden burgers) can't be beat.
Oh, yes... Our newly formed group will be extending HONORARY membership cards
to folks who reside outside of Texas. For grumpy people (Texans and
non-Texans), we extend ORNERY membership cards. However, Grumpy people need to
be
nominated by either an HONORARY member of our prestigious group or a real Texan.
Membership fee for an ORNERY member is a case of Corona.
(Chuck was the first non-Texan indicted in our group, I mean INDUCTED into
our (sorry Chuck) I didn't mean to suggest you ran into trouble with the law
down here. We have room in our organization for everyone, even grumpy folks and
those who actually have been INDICTED.
We hope to be working on some kind of annual event for a Fly In down here
(none of our members know anything about it yet cause I just made it up) in the
H
eart Of Texas (HOT as in sweat) Texas Air Camper Organization.
By the way, a blank space on the membership card is suitable for attaching a
picture of your mug in your leather helmet, scarf and goggles, so people will
think you are a real-live barnstormer. We encourage members to laminate their
prestigious membership cards once they arriive. (Remember, the card is free
but bring a Corona to the next meeting so we can properly indict you :) I mean
induct you.
Membership cards will be mailed to y'all if and when I get back from
Wisconsin.
Sterling Brooks
Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch
5TA6, San Antonio Sectional
(NOTAMS... Land At Your Own Risk, fresh/moist cowchips on runway. Bring your
own soap & water)
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| Subject: | TACO membership addendum |
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It has been brought to my attention that members of the clergy should be
exempt from the membership dues in TACO, (Texas Air Camper Organization). In place
of the aforementioned membership dues for a TACO membership card, a donation
to a collection plate of their respective congregation will suffice. I regret
this error and offer my apology for this insensitive oversight. Members of the
clergy will also be exempt from duties at HOT TACO.
S.B.
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Mike,
What are you using to turn the prop?
Alex Sloan
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike King
To: Pietenpol Discussion Group
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Insurance
Gang,
A couple of weeks ago I requested any information regarding
current insurance rates. My plane was down for two years but
is now current and ready to go.
Since that time, I have insured the plane with Butler-Brown
Insurance of Oskaloosa, Iowa.
1985 Grega GN-1
Hangered
Hull All Risk - $10,000
Deductibles: $100 Not in Motion
$1,000 in Motion
Liability - $1,000,000 combined single limits
$1000,000 per passenger
Medical Coverage - $3,000 per seat
Approved for Pleasure and business
Annual Premium - $560.00
Coverage held through US Specialty Insurance Company
Thanks for all your input. I hope this might help some builders
out there.
Mike King
GN-1
77MK
Dallas, Texas
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I was just watching Fox news and there was a screen crawler announcing that the
Sport Pilot has received final approval.
Dick N.
a proud watcher of Fox News
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I asked that same question a couple weeks ago and never got an answer... maybe
two "askers" might get an answer.
:)
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Sloan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Insurance
Mike,
What are you using to turn the prop?
Alex Sloan
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike King
To: Pietenpol Discussion Group
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Insurance
Gang,
A couple of weeks ago I requested any information regarding
current insurance rates. My plane was down for two years but
is now current and ready to go.
Since that time, I have insured the plane with Butler-Brown
Insurance of Oskaloosa, Iowa.
1985 Grega GN-1
Hangered
Hull All Risk - $10,000
Deductibles: $100 Not in Motion
$1,000 in Motion
Liability - $1,000,000 combined single limits
$1000,000 per passenger
Medical Coverage - $3,000 per seat
Approved for Pleasure and business
Annual Premium - $560.00
Coverage held through US Specialty Insurance Company
Thanks for all your input. I hope this might help some builders
out there.
Mike King
GN-1
77MK
Dallas, Texas
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good man.... another Fox News fan! Looks like the word is out that Sport Pilot
is almost a reality!
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: sport pilot
I was just watching Fox news and there was a screen crawler announcing that the
Sport Pilot has received final approval.
Dick N.
a proud watcher of Fox News
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| Subject: | Photos posted - Tick Hill |
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=208
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| Subject: | Re: I just got this from Cy Galley at EAA |
Corky,
You got it all wrong, after all the letters to the Fed Man and the Politicians
you were on the FAA watch list of rebel rousers. You see the Feds were just waiting
for you to give up and sell 41CC before they were no going to release the
sport pilot. After they got word you sold 41CC they figured they beat you
down and won the battle so it was time to let it out. Now you hurry up and finish
311CC and show them who will win the war.
Ye haw
Do not archive
Chris T.
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I just got this from Cy Galley at EAA
Chris,
Thanks for the long awaited news. Really sounds too good to be true. It's about
what I should have expected coming through a month AFTER I passed 41CC on to
better hands. Seems like I've always ended up sucking hind tit. Probably because
of the compliments I've given the beauros and their cousin 3, 4, and 5 letter
organizations. I do want to publicly apologize to the FAA, EAA, AOPA for
the lack of faith and respect I've shown these last few years. Impatience is naughty
thing. Seems like I have never used much.
Anyway Chris, thanks again for thinking of me in relation to Sport Pilot. I hope
this will inspire me to go to the shop and get busier on 311CC. Y'all have
a good time at Brodhead.
Corky
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| Subject: | Sport Pilot question |
who will be allowed to teach students for the Sport Pilot ticket?? I heard about
2 yrs ago that any Private Pilot who has gone through some "special training"
would be allowed to instruct Sport Pilot Students.
This sounds a little too good to be true.... who gots the 411 on this??
DJ
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot question |
never mind.. just found the answer... it is too good to be true!
from faa.gov
_________________
I would like to become a light-sport aircraft instructor and I do not hold a flight
instructor certificate issued under 14 CFR part 61. How would this proposal
affect me? (SFAR section 155)
You would have to obtain a flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating.
To get it, you would have to-
a.. Be at least 18 years old;
b.. Have a sport pilot certificate or at least a private pilot certificate;
c.. Receive and log ground training in the fundamentals of instruction(SFAR section
113);
d.. Receive and log ground and flight training in specific aeronautical areas
(SFAR section 115);
e.. Meet aeronautical experience requirements (SFAR section 117); and
f.. Pass the FAA knowledge tests and practical test with a FAA designated pilot
examiner (SFAR section 119).
The FAA would issue you a flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating
and your logbook would be endorsed authorizing you privileges to provide training
in that specific category, class, and make and model of aircraft.
________________
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport Pilot question
who will be allowed to teach students for the Sport Pilot ticket?? I heard about
2 yrs ago that any Private Pilot who has gone through some "special training"
would be allowed to instruct Sport Pilot Students.
This sounds a little too good to be true.... who gots the 411 on this??
DJ
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