---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/30/04: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:41 AM - A really neat and simple scarfing jig (Ron Hargrove) 2. 07:54 AM - Re: A really neat and simple scarfing jig (Jim Markle) 3. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: LEADING EDGE TAPE (gap seal) (Mike King) 4. 09:29 AM - TACO Shirts and stickers (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 5. 09:47 AM - Re: TACO Shirts and stickers (Mike King) 6. 10:02 AM - Re: TACO Shirts and stickers (DJ Vegh) 7. 10:06 AM - Re: TACO Shirts and stickers (DJ Vegh) 8. 10:53 AM - Re: TACO Shirts and stickers (Larry Ragan) 9. 11:05 AM - Re: TACO Shirts and stickers (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 10. 11:32 AM - Build Your Own Pietenpol Tee Shirt (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com) 11. 06:59 PM - Model A engine lubrication (Carl D. Vought) 12. 10:33 PM - Re: Model A engine lubrication (Gary Gower) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:34 AM PST US From: Ron Hargrove Subject: Pietenpol-List: A really neat and simple scarfing jig --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Hargrove I saw this on the web, and thought it was a really simple and elegant solution to making 10-1 airplane scarf joints, so I thought I would share the discovery Thanks, Ron http://www.seqair.com/skunkworks/WoodWkgMethods/GaugerScarfJig/Gauger.html ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:10 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A really neat and simple scarfing jig --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" I like that. And you could probably put a deeper bit in the router for a deeper scarf. Pretty cool. Here's another variation on scarfing "tools": http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID=402&PlaneID=52 Jim in Plano..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Hargrove" Subject: Pietenpol-List: A really neat and simple scarfing jig > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Hargrove > > I saw this on the web, and thought it was a really simple and elegant > solution to making 10-1 airplane scarf joints, so I thought I would > share the discovery > > Thanks, > Ron > > http://www.seqair.com/skunkworks/WoodWkgMethods/GaugerScarfJig/Gauger.html > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:08 AM PST US From: "Mike King" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: LEADING EDGE TAPE (gap seal) Thank you Shawn for the tip. I have been receiving (offline) similar suggestions. All have reported success. I was a little apprehensive using tape that might come off and bind into the control surfaces. I am glad to hear others have used it with success. Thanks again. Mike King GN-1 77MK Dallas -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Wolk Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: LEADING EDGE TAPE (gap seal) The people at Aircraft Sales and parts (ASAP) in Vernon, BC sell a nylon type tape similar to a bookbinding tape that works great for a gap seal. It is available in 2" or 3" wide. What I did was get the 3" tape and then taped a 2" piece onto the sticky side so that the 3" tape has two 1/2" wide sticky strips. I then folded the tape in the middle and with the closed end up to the top of the wing surface stuck the sticky parts to the wing and the airleron. I have seen this same idea used on a J3 Cub, and it works. This is the contact info for where I purchased the tape.(ASAP) But you can probably find this locally as well. Mailing Address:=09 Box 995, =09 Vernon, B.C. Canada V1T 6N2 Tel: (250) 549-1102 Fax: (250) 549-3769 email: parts@ultralight.ca Shawn Wolk Aircraft Fanatic C-FRAZ Pietenpol on Wheels, Skis, and Floats!!! C-GZOT Skyhopper Winnipeg, MB ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:57 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com Howdy Piet folks, Nobody else has proposed another TACO logo. So I am about ready to order some T-shirts...and as suggested by Jim Markle...some vinyl stickers about 4 inches diameter. Here's my final logo proposal #3. (see link below) How many folks would like to order vinyl stickers or T-shirts? I haven't priced them yet, but will do my best to keep the cost/quality ratio at Piet standards. I have tried to incorporate most of everyone's suggestions into the logo. Some that I haven't included are wire spoke wheels...and corvair engine. I kept the continental engine...because most of the folks who came to Tick Hill have continental engine projects and because I have already spent more time on the artwork than I had planned. Perhaps I will have more time in the future and can revise the logo later. http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=TACO%2004.jpg&PhotoID=2518 For now...I am just trying to get a count of interested folks so I can get some prices together. So, email me if you would like me to put you down for a shirt and/or sticker. I will email prices and get a detailed count before I have them made. -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:46 AM PST US From: "Mike King" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike King" Terry, GREAT JOB. Put me down for five (5) T-shirts and two (2) vinyl stickers. Mike King GN-1 77MK HOT TACO Dallas -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com Howdy Piet folks, Nobody else has proposed another TACO logo. So I am about ready to order some T-shirts...and as suggested by Jim Markle...some vinyl stickers about 4 inches diameter. Here's my final logo proposal #3. (see link below) How many folks would like to order vinyl stickers or T-shirts? I haven't priced them yet, but will do my best to keep the cost/quality ratio at Piet standards. I have tried to incorporate most of everyone's suggestions into the logo. Some that I haven't included are wire spoke wheels...and corvair engine. I kept the continental engine...because most of the folks who came to Tick Hill have continental engine projects and because I have already spent more time on the artwork than I had planned. Perhaps I will have more time in the future and can revise the logo later. http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=TACO% 2004.jpg&PhotoID=2518 For now...I am just trying to get a count of interested folks so I can get some prices together. So, email me if you would like me to put you down for a shirt and/or sticker. I will email prices and get a detailed count before I have them made. -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ========= ========= ========= http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list ========= ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:56 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" If you can keep the blue color of the text the same color as the blue in the flag and maybe change the "low and slow" to red then you would have 6 colors and that would cut the cost of T-shirt printing substantially. Most screen printing presses are 6 colors... anything more than 6 and it gets mighty expensive. DJ From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > Howdy Piet folks, > > Nobody else has proposed another TACO logo. So I am about ready to order some T-shirts...and as suggested by Jim Markle...some vinyl stickers about 4 inches diameter. > > Here's my final logo proposal #3. (see link below) How many folks would like to order vinyl stickers or T-shirts? I haven't priced them yet, but will do my best to keep the cost/quality ratio at Piet standards. > > I have tried to incorporate most of everyone's suggestions into the logo. Some that I haven't included are wire spoke wheels...and corvair engine. I kept the continental engine...because most of the folks who came to Tick Hill have continental engine projects and because I have already spent more time on the artwork than I had planned. Perhaps I will have more time in the future and can revise the logo later. > > http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=TACO%2004.jpg&PhotoID=2518 > > For now...I am just trying to get a count of interested folks so I can get some prices together. So, email me if you would like me to put you down for a shirt and/or sticker. I will email prices and get a detailed count before I have them made. > > -- > Terry L. Bowden > ph 254-715-4773 > fax 254-853-3805 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:51 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" I also just noticed you have some additional colors being used on the pilot and passenger. unless you change them to colors already used you may want to just have the logos done as heat transfers on the T-shirt. He transfers can have infinite colors as they are printed on a printer and then cooked on. Downside to those is they last about half as long as screened ink. In less than a year's worth of washings they will fade out. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > Howdy Piet folks, > > Nobody else has proposed another TACO logo. So I am about ready to order some T-shirts...and as suggested by Jim Markle...some vinyl stickers about 4 inches diameter. > > Here's my final logo proposal #3. (see link below) How many folks would like to order vinyl stickers or T-shirts? I haven't priced them yet, but will do my best to keep the cost/quality ratio at Piet standards. > > I have tried to incorporate most of everyone's suggestions into the logo. Some that I haven't included are wire spoke wheels...and corvair engine. I kept the continental engine...because most of the folks who came to Tick Hill have continental engine projects and because I have already spent more time on the artwork than I had planned. Perhaps I will have more time in the future and can revise the logo later. > > http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=TACO%2004.jpg&PhotoID=2518 > > For now...I am just trying to get a count of interested folks so I can get some prices together. So, email me if you would like me to put you down for a shirt and/or sticker. I will email prices and get a detailed count before I have them made. > > -- > Terry L. Bowden > ph 254-715-4773 > fax 254-853-3805 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:53 AM PST US From: "Larry Ragan" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Larry Ragan" 3 T's and 5 stickers Thanks Larry Ragan (FLACO/TACO) Jacksonville, Fl. lragan@hotmail.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:21 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com DJ Thanks for the pointers. It should save me some effort with the screen printer. I was planning to let them tell me if any adjustments need to be made. But this way...I can be better prepared. -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:02 AM PST US From: KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Build Your Own Pietenpol Tee Shirt 0.0 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From: contains numbers mixed in with letters http://www.mykitplane.com/TaxiWay/TheHangar/photoAlbumManager.cfm?AlbumID=210 The link above goes to a shirt worn by a few elite folks at Brodhead, mainly Doc, who looked rather dapper in his new BYOP shirt. (Also, I hope to have the website WWW.BYOP.US up and running soon if I can ever figure this internet hosting & design stuff out. Don't hold your breath.) As if we need another tee shirt in this world... the link should (unless I messed up) take you to my samples that I am selling at my cost, just to let the world know about this terrific little airplane. 100% cotton, 3 ink, front and back design with NOTAMS from Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch on the front (about landing in a cow chip). On the back is a "STOP" sign and in place of STOP, the sing reads BYOP. "Air Camper Pilot On Board, Flying Low and Slow Since 1929" is on the front. Thanks DJ for allowing me to use your line drawing in the design of this Tee Shirt. Your shirt is in the mail. $12.75 (my cost for Tax, Title and License) gets you a tee shirt in the mail as soon as I receive your payment. Please e-mail me first so I can advise if I have any left in stock. In a few medium, large and extra large. I take checks, money orders and of course Corona beer. TACO LOCO ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:32 PM PST US From: "Carl D. Vought" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine lubrication --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" At Brodhead, we heard some very good presentations, one being by Ken Perkins, who delivered a highly enlightening talk on the Model A engine. I was hanging on every word. One of the things he pointed out was that the lubrication system of the Model A engine was designed to use thin oil. He described how he mixes 20 weight with 10 weight to get 15 weight. When I was a kid and depended upon my Model A for daily transportation, I always used 30 weight, but I can't remember why. I've just gone through all of the data I have on that engine and I cannot find anything to support the choice of 30 weight. I'd like to hear from some Model A-ers out there who'd be willing to comment on what oil they use and on what they base their choice. Carl Vought/Huntsville, AL ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:12 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine lubrication --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower Carl, I owned a Model A (1931) Four door. We (Larry my brother and me) rebuilt the engine when we were at high school (equivalent here), was back in 1966. The only oil we used in t hat engine was HD 30 from Quaker State, for several years until we sold the car... When we bought the car the engine was in bad shape, so we used grade 40 for several months... By the way, the multigrade oils were not very popular here at that time. Saludos Gary Gower. --- "Carl D. Vought" wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" > > > At Brodhead, we heard some very good presentations, one being by Ken > Perkins, who delivered a highly enlightening talk on the Model A > engine. I > was hanging on every word. One of the things he pointed out was that > the > lubrication system of the Model A engine was designed to use thin > oil. He > described how he mixes 20 weight with 10 weight to get 15 weight. > When I > was a kid and depended upon my Model A for daily transportation, I > always > used 30 weight, but I can't remember why. I've just gone through all > of the > data I have on that engine and I cannot find anything to support the > choice > of 30 weight. I'd like to hear from some Model A-ers out there who'd > be > willing to comment on what oil they use and on what they base their > choice. > Carl Vought/Huntsville, AL > > > > > > > > > > >