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     1. 07:15 AM - Re: Model A engine lubrication (Carl D. Vought)
     2. 08:33 AM - Helpful Web sites for first-time builders.  (TBYH@aol.com)
     3. 03:45 PM - Three piece wing spar dimensions (Jake Nichols)
     4. 04:01 PM - Re: Three piece wing spar dimensions ()
     5. 04:12 PM - Re: TACO Shirts and stickers (Doyle Combs)
     6. 05:28 PM - Replica Dixi Magneto Switches (Michael Green)
     7. 05:51 PM - Re: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches (Jim Markle)
     8. 06:05 PM - Picture of a Piet.... (Jim Markle)
     9. 06:13 PM - Re: Build Your Own Pietenpol Tee Shirt (Mike Whaley)
    10. 06:56 PM - Re: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches (Michael Green)
    11. 07:37 PM - Trig help... (Jim Markle)
    12. 07:49 PM - Re: Here we go again Chuck Gantzer is on the Move (TomTravis@aol.com)
    13. 09:06 PM - Re: Trig help... (N925WB1@aol.com)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Model A engine lubrication | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
      
      Gary..Thanks for your response. I believe your experience (re: 40 wt oil) 
      was pretty typical for the time (before restoring cars became a religeon). 
      I got my car in 1953 and I guess I used 30wt on advice from other users or 
      former users. The Floyd Clymer reprint of the manual talks in terms of 
      viscosity and flash point, instead of "weight". When did standards come out 
      on "weight", anyway??? I'll pose the question about thin oil to Grant 
      McLauren and see what happens..Carl Vought
      
      
      On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:32:40 -0700 (PDT), Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> 
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      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
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      > I owned a Model A (1931) Four door.  We (Larry my brother and me)
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| Subject:  | Helpful Web sites for first-time builders.  | 
      
      These may have been posted before, but here are a couple excellent sites for 
      first-time builders -- lots of info about wood, glues, etc., etc.:
      
      http://www.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/av-info/dst/amateur/default.htm
      
      
      http://www.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/av-info/dst/43-13/default.htm
      
      
      Fred B.
      La Crosse, WI
      
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| Subject:  | Three piece wing spar dimensions | 
      
      I am laying out a rib jig based on the Flying and Gliding plans but am planning
      on using the three piece wing.  It appears from messages on the list that the
      three piece wing may use a different size spar.  What are the cross sectional
      dimensions of the spar?
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| Subject:  | Re: Three piece wing spar dimensions | 
      
      Jake,
      
      Same spar dimensions with either version.
      1" X 4 3/4" routed.
      An acceptable alternative is a 3/4" solid spar.
      
      Greg Cardinal
      Minneapolis
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Jake Nichols
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:44 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing spar dimensions
      
      
        I am laying out a rib jig based on the Flying and Gliding plans but am planning
      on using the three piece wing.  It appears from messages on the list that the
      three piece wing may use a different size spar.  What are the cross sectional
      dimensions of the spar?
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| Subject:  | Re: TACO Shirts and stickers | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Doyle Combs" <dcombs@Ltex.net>
      
      Terry, I need two tee shirts, both Large size, unless the shirts are smaller
      than usual and in that case, one Xlarge and one Large. I also need two
      stickers. It looks great. DJ is right, in silk screening, the more
      consistently you can use the same color, the better. Over three different
      colors, just have them do a four color process. It will be cheaper in the
      long run.
      
      Doyle
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <BARNSTMR@aol.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
      >
      > Howdy Piet folks,
      >
      > Nobody else has proposed another TACO logo.  So I am about ready to order
      some T-shirts...and as suggested by Jim Markle...some vinyl stickers about 4
      inches diameter.
      >
      > Here's my final logo proposal #3.  (see link below)  How many folks would
      like to order vinyl stickers or T-shirts?  I haven't priced them yet, but
      will do my best to keep the cost/quality ratio at Piet standards.
      >
      > I have tried to incorporate most of everyone's suggestions into the logo.
      Some that I haven't included are wire spoke wheels...and corvair engine.  I
      kept the continental engine...because most of the folks who came to Tick
      Hill have continental engine projects and because I have already spent more
      time on the artwork than I had planned.  Perhaps I will have more time in
      the future and can revise the logo later.
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      http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=TACO%2004.jpg&Ph
      otoID=2518
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      > For now...I am just trying to get a count of interested folks so I can get
      some prices together.  So, email me if you would like me to put you down for
      a shirt and/or sticker.  I will email prices and get a detailed count before
      I have them made.
      >
      > --
      > Terry L. Bowden
      > ph 254-715-4773
      > fax 254-853-3805
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Replica Dixi Magneto Switches | 
      
      I was just going thru the old B.P.A. newsletters and came across an article on
      replica dixie magneto switches that were available from Frank Pavliga. Does anyone
      know if these are still available, or where I might get something simmilar?
      
      Mike Green
      Romsey,
      Victoria,
      AUSTRALIA
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| Subject:  | Re: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches | 
      
      As a matter of fact!! 
      
      What Frank had originally were all sold.....
      
      But we're working on the possibility (ONLY a possibility at this point) of having
      him build some more......an announcement will be made to the list when (and
      if) another batch gets built and if any become available. 
      
      Jim in Plano....
      
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Michael Green
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 7:26 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches
      
      
        I was just going thru the old B.P.A. newsletters and came across an article on
      replica dixie magneto switches that were available from Frank Pavliga. Does
      anyone know if these are still available, or where I might get something simmilar?
      
        Mike Green
        Romsey,
        Victoria,
        AUSTRALIA
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| Subject:  | Picture of a Piet.... | 
              0.0 LOTS_OF_STUFF          BODY: Thousands or millions of pictures, movies,
      etc.
      
      Ahhh, an Air Camper right in the middle of things.....
      
      At least it looks like Bill Rewey's Pietenpol (with the stars on the wings)....maybe
      not....I would bet that's Bill standing on the port side.....
      
      http://www.airventure.org/2004/gallery/images/aerial_membervillage.jpg
      
      Well, it's right in the middle of things, where it SHOULD be!!!
      
      Jim in Plano
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Build Your Own Pietenpol Tee Shirt | 
      
      This is the link I got to work...
      
      http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID210
        http://www.mykitplane.com/TaxiWay/TheHangar/photoAlbumManager.cfm?AlbumID210
      
        The link above goes to a shirt worn by a few elite folks at Brodhead, mainly
      Doc, who looked rather dapper in his new BYOP shirt. (Also, I hope to have the
      website WWW.BYOP.US up and running soon if I can ever figure this internet hosting
      & design stuff out. Don't hold your breath.)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches | 
      
      Thanx Jim.
      
      Mike in Oz......
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      I think it's been mentioned before, but thought I would share a great site I found
      a while back.
      
      I'm checking some wing angles/rises/slopes/etc and needed to know the exact angle
      for a 1" rise at the wingtip....and this site makes quick work of it.
      
      Go here:  http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/triangle_solution_menu.htm and there are a bunch of right triangle formulaes that make the numbers quick and easy (unless you have a Smoley's...and if you know what THAT is, you're an older antique than myself!)
      
      I think I once heard someone say they put in about 1 1/2 degrees of dihedral so
      they would have an inch or so at the wingtip....NOT.  1 1/2 degrees at (approx)
      161" gives a bit more than 4" of rise....ok, it doesn't really matter at this
      point, but it sure is nice to have a quick and easy check of the numbers!
      
      Jim in Plano
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| Subject:  | Re: Here we go again Chuck Gantzer is on the Move | 
      
      Thanks to Chuck for the tip about Quincy. It was on the route to OSH for me 
      but after Chuck's bad experience I decided to avoid it and landed at K52 
      (Monroe City, Mo.). Friendly place and the FBO keeps a picture album of the 
      visitors. Fuel prices aren't bad either at $2.34. 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Trig help... | 
      
      
      Jim,
      
      All those angles and measurements can be done with the Sine, Cosine, &  
      Tangent formulas.  Pretty simple stuff once you get the hang of it.   I'll have
      to 
      admit, though, having a program that calculates it all for you is  much easier!
      
      -Wayne
      
      In a message dated 7/31/2004 9:38:31 PM Central Daylight Time,  
      jim_markle@mindspring.com writes:
      
      I think it's been mentioned before, but thought  I would share a great site I 
      found a while back.
      
      I'm checking some wing angles/rises/slopes/etc  and needed to know the exact 
      angle for a 1" rise at the wingtip....and this  site makes quick work of it.
      
      Go here:  
      _http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/triangle_solution_menu.htm_ (http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/triangle_solution_menu.htm)   and 
      there are a bunch of right triangle formulaes that make the numbers  quick 
      and easy (unless you have a Smoley's...and if you know what THAT is,  you're an
      
      older antique than myself!)
      
      I think I once heard someone say they put in  about 1 1/2 degrees of dihedral 
      so they would have an inch or so at the  wingtip....NOT.  1 1/2 degrees at 
      (approx) 161" gives a bit more than 4"  of rise....ok, it doesn't really matter
      
      at this point, but it sure is nice to  have a quick and easy check of the 
      numbers!
      
      Jim in Plano
      
      
 
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