---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/31/04: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:15 AM - Re: Model A engine lubrication (Carl D. Vought) 2. 08:33 AM - Helpful Web sites for first-time builders. (TBYH@aol.com) 3. 03:45 PM - Three piece wing spar dimensions (Jake Nichols) 4. 04:01 PM - Re: Three piece wing spar dimensions () 5. 04:12 PM - Re: TACO Shirts and stickers (Doyle Combs) 6. 05:28 PM - Replica Dixi Magneto Switches (Michael Green) 7. 05:51 PM - Re: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches (Jim Markle) 8. 06:05 PM - Picture of a Piet.... (Jim Markle) 9. 06:13 PM - Re: Build Your Own Pietenpol Tee Shirt (Mike Whaley) 10. 06:56 PM - Re: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches (Michael Green) 11. 07:37 PM - Trig help... (Jim Markle) 12. 07:49 PM - Re: Here we go again Chuck Gantzer is on the Move (TomTravis@aol.com) 13. 09:06 PM - Re: Trig help... (N925WB1@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:44 AM PST US From: "Carl D. Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine lubrication --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" Gary..Thanks for your response. I believe your experience (re: 40 wt oil) was pretty typical for the time (before restoring cars became a religeon). I got my car in 1953 and I guess I used 30wt on advice from other users or former users. The Floyd Clymer reprint of the manual talks in terms of viscosity and flash point, instead of "weight". When did standards come out on "weight", anyway??? I'll pose the question about thin oil to Grant McLauren and see what happens..Carl Vought On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:32:40 -0700 (PDT), Gary Gower wrote : > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > Carl, > > I owned a Model A (1931) Four door. We (Larry my brother and me) > rebuilt the > > --- "Carl D. Vought" wrote: > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" > > > > > > At Brodhead, we heard some very good presentations, one being by Ken > > Perkins, who delivered a highly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:46 AM PST US From: TBYH@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Helpful Web sites for first-time builders. These may have been posted before, but here are a couple excellent sites for first-time builders -- lots of info about wood, glues, etc., etc.: http://www.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/av-info/dst/amateur/default.htm http://www.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/av-info/dst/43-13/default.htm Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:16 PM PST US From: "Jake Nichols" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing spar dimensions I am laying out a rib jig based on the Flying and Gliding plans but am planning on using the three piece wing. It appears from messages on the list that the three piece wing may use a different size spar. What are the cross sectional dimensions of the spar? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:15 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing spar dimensions Jake, Same spar dimensions with either version. 1" X 4 3/4" routed. An acceptable alternative is a 3/4" solid spar. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Nichols To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing spar dimensions I am laying out a rib jig based on the Flying and Gliding plans but am planning on using the three piece wing. It appears from messages on the list that the three piece wing may use a different size spar. What are the cross sectional dimensions of the spar? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:47 PM PST US From: "Doyle Combs" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Doyle Combs" Terry, I need two tee shirts, both Large size, unless the shirts are smaller than usual and in that case, one Xlarge and one Large. I also need two stickers. It looks great. DJ is right, in silk screening, the more consistently you can use the same color, the better. Over three different colors, just have them do a four color process. It will be cheaper in the long run. Doyle ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Shirts and stickers > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > Howdy Piet folks, > > Nobody else has proposed another TACO logo. So I am about ready to order some T-shirts...and as suggested by Jim Markle...some vinyl stickers about 4 inches diameter. > > Here's my final logo proposal #3. (see link below) How many folks would like to order vinyl stickers or T-shirts? I haven't priced them yet, but will do my best to keep the cost/quality ratio at Piet standards. > > I have tried to incorporate most of everyone's suggestions into the logo. Some that I haven't included are wire spoke wheels...and corvair engine. I kept the continental engine...because most of the folks who came to Tick Hill have continental engine projects and because I have already spent more time on the artwork than I had planned. Perhaps I will have more time in the future and can revise the logo later. > > http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=TACO%2004.jpg&Ph otoID=2518 > > For now...I am just trying to get a count of interested folks so I can get some prices together. So, email me if you would like me to put you down for a shirt and/or sticker. I will email prices and get a detailed count before I have them made. > > -- > Terry L. Bowden > ph 254-715-4773 > fax 254-853-3805 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:36 PM PST US From: "Michael Green" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches I was just going thru the old B.P.A. newsletters and came across an article on replica dixie magneto switches that were available from Frank Pavliga. Does anyone know if these are still available, or where I might get something simmilar? Mike Green Romsey, Victoria, AUSTRALIA ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:56 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches As a matter of fact!! What Frank had originally were all sold..... But we're working on the possibility (ONLY a possibility at this point) of having him build some more......an announcement will be made to the list when (and if) another batch gets built and if any become available. Jim in Plano.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Green To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 7:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches I was just going thru the old B.P.A. newsletters and came across an article on replica dixie magneto switches that were available from Frank Pavliga. Does anyone know if these are still available, or where I might get something simmilar? Mike Green Romsey, Victoria, AUSTRALIA ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:40 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Picture of a Piet.... 0.0 LOTS_OF_STUFF BODY: Thousands or millions of pictures, movies, etc. Ahhh, an Air Camper right in the middle of things..... At least it looks like Bill Rewey's Pietenpol (with the stars on the wings)....maybe not....I would bet that's Bill standing on the port side..... http://www.airventure.org/2004/gallery/images/aerial_membervillage.jpg Well, it's right in the middle of things, where it SHOULD be!!! Jim in Plano ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:45 PM PST US From: "Mike Whaley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Build Your Own Pietenpol Tee Shirt This is the link I got to work... http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID210 http://www.mykitplane.com/TaxiWay/TheHangar/photoAlbumManager.cfm?AlbumID210 The link above goes to a shirt worn by a few elite folks at Brodhead, mainly Doc, who looked rather dapper in his new BYOP shirt. (Also, I hope to have the website WWW.BYOP.US up and running soon if I can ever figure this internet hosting & design stuff out. Don't hold your breath.) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:14 PM PST US From: "Michael Green" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Replica Dixi Magneto Switches Thanx Jim. Mike in Oz...... ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:58 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trig help... I think it's been mentioned before, but thought I would share a great site I found a while back. I'm checking some wing angles/rises/slopes/etc and needed to know the exact angle for a 1" rise at the wingtip....and this site makes quick work of it. Go here: http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/triangle_solution_menu.htm and there are a bunch of right triangle formulaes that make the numbers quick and easy (unless you have a Smoley's...and if you know what THAT is, you're an older antique than myself!) I think I once heard someone say they put in about 1 1/2 degrees of dihedral so they would have an inch or so at the wingtip....NOT. 1 1/2 degrees at (approx) 161" gives a bit more than 4" of rise....ok, it doesn't really matter at this point, but it sure is nice to have a quick and easy check of the numbers! Jim in Plano ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:20 PM PST US From: TomTravis@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Here we go again Chuck Gantzer is on the Move Thanks to Chuck for the tip about Quincy. It was on the route to OSH for me but after Chuck's bad experience I decided to avoid it and landed at K52 (Monroe City, Mo.). Friendly place and the FBO keeps a picture album of the visitors. Fuel prices aren't bad either at $2.34. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:36 PM PST US From: N925WB1@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Trig help... Jim, All those angles and measurements can be done with the Sine, Cosine, & Tangent formulas. Pretty simple stuff once you get the hang of it. I'll have to admit, though, having a program that calculates it all for you is much easier! -Wayne In a message dated 7/31/2004 9:38:31 PM Central Daylight Time, jim_markle@mindspring.com writes: I think it's been mentioned before, but thought I would share a great site I found a while back. I'm checking some wing angles/rises/slopes/etc and needed to know the exact angle for a 1" rise at the wingtip....and this site makes quick work of it. Go here: _http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/triangle_solution_menu.htm_ (http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/triangle_solution_menu.htm) and there are a bunch of right triangle formulaes that make the numbers quick and easy (unless you have a Smoley's...and if you know what THAT is, you're an older antique than myself!) I think I once heard someone say they put in about 1 1/2 degrees of dihedral so they would have an inch or so at the wingtip....NOT. 1 1/2 degrees at (approx) 161" gives a bit more than 4" of rise....ok, it doesn't really matter at this point, but it sure is nice to have a quick and easy check of the numbers! Jim in Plano