Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 08/04/04


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 01:54 AM - SHIRT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com)
     2. 06:36 AM - Piet- rigging (Sayre, William G)
     3. 08:39 AM - Re: Wing Rigging (john e fay)
     4. 08:57 AM - Re: 75th anniversary hats. (Steve Eldredge)
     5. 09:36 AM - Re: 75th anniversary hats. (erik finster)
     6. 11:26 AM - Magneto stuff (Carl D. Vought)
     7. 01:06 PM - Re: SHIRT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER (Phil Phillips)
     8. 01:22 PM - Early Corvair engines (Ron Hargrove)
     9. 01:35 PM - Re: Magneto stuff (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
    10. 01:41 PM - Re: Early Corvair engines (del magsam)
    11. 01:54 PM - Re: Magneto stuff (Ed Smith)
    12. 01:57 PM - Re: Early Corvair engines (DJ Vegh)
    13. 02:11 PM - Re: Magneto stuff (walt evans)
    14. 02:39 PM - Re: 75th anniversary hats. (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
    15. 04:04 PM - Fw: Question from eBay Member (Jim Markle)
    16. 04:53 PM - Shirt delay (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com)
    17. 06:15 PM - Re: Shirt delay (Ron Hargrove)
    18. 07:43 PM - Re: Magneto stuff (Carl D. Vought)
    19. 07:44 PM - Re: Magneto stuff (Don Morris)
    20. 08:15 PM - Re: Early Corvair engines (James Dallas)
    21. 08:28 PM - hinged / removable turtledeck (tmbrant1@netzero.net)
    22. 09:34 PM - Re: hinged / removable turtledeck (Richard Navratil)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:54:37 AM PST US
    From: KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com
    Subject: SHIRT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER
    1.2 BANG_MORE BODY: Talks about more with an exclamation! Maybe I've had one too many Coronas trying to stay cool down here in Texas near the Mexican border this August, but I'm so thirsting (I mean trusting) of this Air Camper family that I'm willing to mail your Build Your Own Pietenpol shirt first, then receive payment. (My wife says I can no longer use the bed in the guest room to store my BYOP shirts on... (Whew, I'm glad she didn't say anything about the Coronas!) "OUT THEY GO," says management! If you will e-mail me your physical address and advise what size shirt you wear, I'll mail the shirt. Thus, my reasoning for SHIRT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER. I'll include with your shirt, and a self-addressed, prepaid Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch envelope for you to return your payment in. The total cost for shirt, D.J. Vegh's artist royalty fee for the Air Camper drawing, shipping, tax, title and license (or "the whole enchilada" as we say in Texas) is $12.75. In lieu of $12.75, you can send 6 ice cold Coronas. *********************** BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! ********************* Provide a picture of your attractive face, and I'll also send you a TACO ID card with your 100% cotton BYOP shirt. The TACO ID card is so authentic looking (when you have it laminated at KINKOS in your town) you might get past security at the next EAA fly in, or at least you can crash the next TACO meeting. This offer void where prohibited by law, or a mean wife. Batteries not included. Some restrictions apply. Must be over 21 to qualify. Not valid outside the contiguous continental United States. Residents of the state of Arkansas must make payment in advance. Gracias, Sterling Brooks, TACO Loco WWW.BYOP.US WWW.STERLINGBROOKS.TV WWW.HOMELESSDOGS.US "One Corona, two Corona, three Corona, floor..."


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    Time: 06:36:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Piet- rigging
    From: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com> Oscar writes- > Have you flown one with dihedral and determined that it was more stable than with the flat wing? Oscar, I can tell you that having anhedral (opposite of dihedral) certainly will make a believer out of anyone. Full stall landings were a challenge even without a cross-wind and performing a stall would always result in a wing dropping off. I finally stretched a string from tip to tip and discovered that they were lower than the center section. Can't really speak for a straight wing because I haven't measure every plane I've flown but those with a small amount of dihedral (appearance) seemed to handle better. I think I read, heard or dreamt that Mr. Pietenpol had two guys lift up on the wing tips when taking his measurements for his struts and thus ended up with a small amount of dihedral with the "flat" one-piece wing. Bill


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    Time: 08:39:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing Rigging
    From: john e fay <jefay@juno.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: john e fay <jefay@juno.com> On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 16:22:31 -0500 <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> writes: > To those of you with flying airplanes, what is the recommended amount > of washout at the wingtips? > With the wing roots level, how much should the trailing edge of the > wingtips be above level? Greg, My memory, from some of the forums that Vi Kaplar (sp.?) gave several years ago, was to raise the rear spar 3/8 inch, out at its end. He said that BHP liked to rig his with no washout, which gives a slightly sharper stall. He likened it to the way a luscombe will stall, in contrast to a cub. John Fay in Peoria


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    Time: 08:57:35 AM PST US
    Subject: 75th anniversary hats.
    From: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
    T-Shirts or Sweatshirts could easily be done if I have 6 or so takers. I was also thinking about having some fleece throws done too. Hats are $20 shipped in the US. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt evans Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. Steve, The embriodery looks great, but I'm not into hats. Ever discussed the option of putting that on a nice "T" shirt? I'd be up for that. Just my two cents. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge <mailto:steve@byu.edu> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. Better late than never? Who would be interested? I'm attaching the sew-out. Front is the logo, back is the lettering. Best regards, Steve E


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    Time: 09:36:47 AM PST US
    From: "erik finster" <es_finster@hotmail.com>
    Subject: 75th anniversary hats.
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "erik finster" <es_finster@hotmail.com> Dear Steve My Name is Erik Billing I live in Windsor Ontario Canada and I just Finished my Wing Rib Jig for my Pietenpol Aircamper, when completed it will have 22" Motorcycle Wheels and a 65 Hp Contenantal Engine. And I would be VERY INTERESTED in Hats And T-Shirts/Sweatshrits Please let me know S/H To Canada Thank You Iam Erik.S.Billing P.S.If you have got an previous email concerning this Sorry I did not know Weather it went through >From: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:57:25 -0600 > >T-Shirts or Sweatshirts could easily be done if I have 6 or so takers. >I was also thinking about having some fleece throws done too. > > >Hats are $20 shipped in the US. > > >________________________________ > >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt >evans >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:48 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. > > >Steve, > >The embriodery looks great, but I'm not into hats. Ever discussed the >option of putting that on a nice "T" shirt? I'd be up for that. Just >my two cents. > >walt evans >NX140DL > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Eldredge <mailto:steve@byu.edu> > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:38 PM > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. > > > Better late than never? > > > Who would be interested? I'm attaching the sew-out. > > > Front is the logo, back is the lettering. > > > Best regards, > > > Steve E > Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft SmartScreen Technology. Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.


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    Time: 11:26:11 AM PST US
    From: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
    Subject: Magneto stuff
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net> Can anyone out there enlighten me/us as to the physical difference between one magneto marked "right hand" and another marked "left hand"??? I know that's a dumb question, but sometimes one has to expose his ignorance in order to eradicate it. My understanding is that both mags turn the same direction. On a slightly different track: can a mag marked "LH" be reworked to a "RH" configuration?....Carl Vought/Huntsville, AL


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    Time: 01:06:03 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
    Subject: Re: SHIRT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER
    I would like to have two of the Piet. shirts. size large. Phil Phillips 702 Greenwood Rd. Kalama, Wa 98625 Please reply if you have this size available, and I will get a check in the mail to you. I think I have your address from a previous post. Phil Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:53 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: SHIRT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER Maybe I've had one too many Coronas trying to stay cool down here in Texas near the Mexican border this August, but I'm so thirsting (I mean trusting) of this Air Camper family that I'm willing to mail your Build Your Own Pietenpol shirt first, then receive payment. (My wife says I can no longer use the bed in the guest room to store my BYOP shirts on... (Whew, I'm glad she didn't say anything about the Coronas!) "OUT THEY GO," says management! If you will e-mail me your physical address and advise what size shirt you wear, I'll mail the shirt. Thus, my reasoning for SHIRT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER. I'll include with your shirt, and a self-addressed, prepaid Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch envelope for you to return your payment in. The total cost for shirt, D.J. Vegh's artist royalty fee for the Air Camper drawing, shipping, tax, title and license (or "the whole enchilada" as we say in Texas) is $12.75. In lieu of $12.75, you can send 6 ice cold Coronas. *********************** BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! ********************* Provide a picture of your attractive face, and I'll also send you a TACO ID card with your 100% cotton BYOP shirt. The TACO ID card is so authentic looking (when you have it laminated at KINKOS in your town) you might get past security at the next EAA fly in, or at least you can crash the next TACO meeting. This offer void where prohibited by law, or a mean wife. Batteries not included. Some restrictions apply. Must be over 21 to qualify. Not valid outside the contiguous continental United States. Residents of the state of Arkansas must make payment in advance. Gracias, Sterling Brooks, TACO Loco WWW.BYOP.US WWW.STERLINGBROOKS.TV WWW.HOMELESSDOGS.US "One Corona, two Corona, three Corona, floor..."


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    Time: 01:22:39 PM PST US
    From: Ron Hargrove <ronhargrove@gmail.com>
    Subject: Early Corvair engines
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Hargrove <ronhargrove@gmail.com> I am just curious as to why the '60-'64 Corvair engines are considered unsuitable for airplanes. Didn't Bernie use a '60 Corvair engine?


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    Time: 01:35:07 PM PST US
    From: BARNSTMR@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Magneto stuff
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com On a Continental and most other aircraft engines...theres no difference....except one fires the bottom and the other fires the top plugs. If you have an engine with staggered timing...the mags are still the same...just one is "clocked" at a slightly different angle. Perhaps some uninformed mechanic marked them this way thinking there was some difference. -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805


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    Time: 01:41:38 PM PST US
    From: del magsam <farmerdel@rocketmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Early Corvair engines
    they are a smaller cubic inch and the crank is less beefy, so it just makes sense to use a later engine as long as you are going to do it. for more power and a stronger engine of the same weight. Del Ron Hargrove <ronhargrove@gmail.com> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Hargrove I am just curious as to why the '60-'64 Corvair engines are considered unsuitable for airplanes. Didn't Bernie use a '60 Corvair engine? Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" ---------------------------------


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    Time: 01:54:05 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Smith" <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com>
    Subject: Magneto stuff
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Smith" <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com> Usually, the left hand mag has an impulse coupling that retards the spark timing for starting. This is normally evident by an additional mechanism on the drive end. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > Of BARNSTMR@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:35 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Magneto stuff > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > On a Continental and most other aircraft engines...theres no > difference....except one fires the bottom and the other fires > the top plugs. If you have an engine with staggered > timing...the mags are still the same...just one is "clocked" > at a slightly different angle. Perhaps some uninformed > mechanic marked them this way thinking there was some difference. > > -- > Terry L. Bowden > ph 254-715-4773 > fax 254-853-3805 > > > > > > ============ > Matronics Forums. > ============ > ============ > ============ > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:57:46 PM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Re: Early Corvair engines
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> It's not that they aren't suitable, but the later models produce much more power for the same weight. Bernie used a '60 because back in '60 when he did it it was pretty hard to come across a '65. They were awfully rare. :) The 60-64's are lower horsepower versions. The main difference being the stroke is shorter giving less displacement. Starting in '64 some engines were the larger 164cu.in. Then from '65 on they are all 164cu.in. It makes no sense to build an early engine for 2 reasons that come to mind right off the bat. 1. Horsepower - why go with less horsepower for the same weight as a more powerful engine??? 2. Engine parts - I do not believe there is an OT-10 cam available for the smaller engine nor is there any forged pistons. ( I would never fly behind a corvair with stock cast pistons.) Expect to get no more than 60hp or so to the prop on an early model and near 100hp on a late model. (at the RPMs a Piet swings a prop) DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Hargrove" <ronhargrove@gmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Early Corvair engines > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Hargrove <ronhargrove@gmail.com> > > I am just curious as to why the '60-'64 Corvair engines are considered > unsuitable for airplanes. Didn't Bernie use a '60 Corvair engine? > >


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    Time: 02:11:44 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Magneto stuff
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> Something to add about magnetos,,,Since the "flat" gear on the Eisemann magneto is so expensive, for the impulse side, my Mentor built me a mag with an impulse and the "deep" gear. Then he made a collar with "fits" the thickness of the difference, so everything would run true. Just needed two gaskets and long studs to secure it. It's fine on an Experimental, and works great. Now with 50 or so hours on the engine, it starts with a simple flip with the left mag selected. PS Think the flat gear is over $500.00 retail, while the deep gear is a dime a dozen. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Smith" <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Magneto stuff > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Smith" <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com> > > Usually, the left hand mag has an impulse coupling that retards the > spark timing for starting. This is normally evident by an additional > mechanism on the drive end. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > > Of BARNSTMR@aol.com > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:35 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Magneto stuff > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > > > On a Continental and most other aircraft engines...theres no > > difference....except one fires the bottom and the other fires > > the top plugs. If you have an engine with staggered > > timing...the mags are still the same...just one is "clocked" > > at a slightly different angle. Perhaps some uninformed > > mechanic marked them this way thinking there was some difference. > > > > -- > > Terry L. Bowden > > ph 254-715-4773 > > fax 254-853-3805 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ > > Matronics Forums. > > ============ > > ============ > > ============ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:39:30 PM PST US
    From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
    Subject: Re: 75th anniversary hats.
    I would like to know the price of a sweatshirt in XL and XXL please. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. T-Shirts or Sweatshirts could easily be done if I have 6 or so takers. I was also thinking about having some fleece throws done too. Hats are $20 shipped in the US. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt evans Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:48 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. Steve, The embriodery looks great, but I'm not into hats. Ever discussed the option of putting that on a nice "T" shirt? I'd be up for that. Just my two cents. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 75th anniversary hats. Better late than never? Who would be interested? I'm attaching the sew-out. Front is the logo, back is the lettering. Best regards, Steve E


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    Time: 04:04:26 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Fw: Question from eBay Member
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> If anyone knows of anyone thinking about buying the Piet plans advertised on eBay.....please don't....without EVEN discussing the legalities, it's just not right to make copies of these plans and sell them.....just ain't right.... I usually manage to stay out of stuff that isn't any of my concern but I just couldn't keep quiet about this one.... This is the reply I got to an inquiry about where he was getting the plans..... ----- Original Message ----- From: <mackpaul60@hotmail.com> Subject: Question from eBay Member Dear dfwplt, All the Pientepol plans I have for sale are copies of the originals. Hope this helps. To respond to this eBay member go to: http://contact.ebay.com/ws1/ebayISAPI.dll?ReturnUserEmail&requested=mgp60&frm=-1&iid=-1&de=off&redirect=0&contactsubmit=Contact+Member Thank you, mgp60


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    Time: 04:53:25 PM PST US
    From: KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com
    Subject: Shirt delay
    I have to apologize in advance for a delay in sending tee shirts. I''ll be out of pocket for a week or longer making funeral arrangements at an out-of-town location and I'll work on sending out BYOP shirts as soon as I can. I probably won't be able to access e-mail or respond to mail during this period either. Thanks for your consideration. Sterling Brooks


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    Time: 06:15:13 PM PST US
    From: Ron Hargrove <ronhargrove@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Shirt delay
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Hargrove <ronhargrove@gmail.com> My condolences to you and yours. Don't fret about something as minor as shirts right now. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: kts5ta6@wmconnect.com <kts5ta6@wmconnect.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shirt delay I have to apologize in advance for a delay in sending tee shirts. I''ll be out of pocket for a week or longer making funeral arrangements at an out-of-town location and I'll work on sending out BYOP shirts as soon as I can. I probably won't be able to access e-mail or respond to mail during this period either. Thanks for your consideration. Sterling Brooks


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    Time: 07:43:46 PM PST US
    From: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
    Subject: Re: Magneto stuff
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net> Many thanks to Walt Evans, Ed Smith and Terry Bowden for their inputs on Magnetos. I feel a lot better and less ignorant. I have an old Slick 4250 mag and an impulse coupler.I bought an A-Model engine side-drive from Ken Perkins at Brodhead last week. I'm prepared to have the mag rebuilt if I can make this combination work on my engine....Carl Vought/Huntssville, AL On 3 Aug 2004 15:18:25 -0000, "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net> wrote : > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net> > > Can anyone out there enlighten me/us as to the physical difference between > one magneto marked "right hand" and another marked "left hand"??? I know > that's a dumb question, but sometimes one has to expose his ignorance in > order to eradicate it. My understanding is that both mags turn the same > direction. On a slightly different track: can a mag marked "LH" be reworked > to a "RH" configuration?....Carl Vought/Huntsville, AL > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:44:02 PM PST US
    From: Don Morris <pietbuilder@donsplans.com>
    Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)
    Subject: Re: Magneto stuff
    <000e01c47a67$85c3fa50$2cc5fea9@home> Hi. Two things - there is the right and left magneto on the engine (obviously). However, the RH and the LH does not refer to this, if I understand correctly. This is actually the direction of spin of the magneto. Both mags on the engine will be either RH or LH, because you are correct - they both spin the same direction. Inside the mag, there will be two sets of timing marks on the distributor gear, and one will be marked RH and the other LH. The internal timing is set differently. I am not sure if the timing is the only difference - there may be other small physical changes. What type of mag are you working with? I may be able to look it up, as we have a number of books at the A&P school that I attend. -Don > Can anyone out there enlighten me/us as to the physical difference between > one magneto marked "right hand" and another marked "left hand"??? I know > that's a dumb question, but sometimes one has to expose his ignorance in > order to eradicate it. My understanding is that both mags turn the same > direction. On a slightly different track: can a mag marked "LH" be reworked > to a "RH" configuration? walt evans wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> > >Something to add about magnetos,,,Since the "flat" gear on the Eisemann >magneto is so expensive, for the impulse side, my Mentor built me a mag with >an impulse and the "deep" gear. Then he made a collar with "fits" the >thickness of the difference, so everything would run true. >Just needed two gaskets and long studs to secure it. >It's fine on an Experimental, and works great. Now with 50 or so hours on >the engine, it starts with a simple flip with the left mag selected. >PS Think the flat gear is over $500.00 retail, while the deep gear is a >dime a dozen. >walt evans >NX140DL > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ed Smith" <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:53 PM >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Magneto stuff > > > > >>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Smith" >> >> ><lesmith@roanokeinternet.com> > > >>Usually, the left hand mag has an impulse coupling that retards the >>spark timing for starting. This is normally evident by an additional >>mechanism on the drive end. >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf >>>Of BARNSTMR@aol.com >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:35 PM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Magneto stuff >>> >>> >>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com >>> >>>On a Continental and most other aircraft engines...theres no >>>difference....except one fires the bottom and the other fires >>>the top plugs. If you have an engine with staggered >>>timing...the mags are still the same...just one is "clocked" >>>at a slightly different angle. Perhaps some uninformed >>>mechanic marked them this way thinking there was some difference. >>> >>>-- >>>Terry L. Bowden >>>ph 254-715-4773 >>>fax 254-853-3805 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>============ >>>Matronics Forums. >>>============ >>>============ >>>============ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:15:06 PM PST US
    From: "James Dallas" <BEC176@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Early Corvair engines
    Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:12:57 -0500 In a word, more Power. The later engines 1964 and later are 164 cubic inches. 1964 kinda being the oddball year with early style heads and the long stroke. 1961 to 1963 are 145 and the 1960 engines are 140. The primary difference is Stroke. The cases are all the same. Pistons are different from small to large due to pin height. Barrels will interchange (1960 to 1964) if you notch the bottom of the barrel to clear the crank. Early barrels with late heads need to have the head shimmed to fit the barrel. Late barrels will not work with early heads. The engine that you should be looking for is a 110 Horsepower. There were lots made and are readily available. Find some one in your area that is a member of CORSA ( the corvair club) or that owns corvairs and they will probably steer you in the right direction. Older country salvage yards might even have one. By the way CORSA does have a web site with a classified section. Jim Dallas Member of CORSA, MCCA 3 Corvair Convertibles A Piet project in progress A Hatz project in progress ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Hargrove To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Early Corvair engines --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Hargrove <ronhargrove@gmail.com> I am just curious as to why the '60-'64 Corvair engines are considered unsuitable for airplanes. Didn't Bernie use a '60 Corvair engine?


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    Time: 08:28:54 PM PST US
    From: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
    Subject: hinged / removable turtledeck
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net> Dale Johnson and I were discussing a hinged turtledeck at Brodhead. He suggested I build this into the my piet to facilitate inspection of cable connections and such from the top of the airplane. I was thinking about it and wondering if it couldn't just be completely removable. I'm thinking, instead of using stringers, make the turtledeck shape out of 1/16th or 1/8" ply and have it attach with several bolts along the top longerons. Just a thought. I'd seen Dick Navratrils new peit under construction and he made his turtledeck this way - except not detatchable to my knowledge. Any thoughts? Tom B.


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    Time: 09:34:12 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: hinged / removable turtledeck
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> Tom Mine is not detachable. I like the idea of a hinged seat back for inspection better. Its all a matter of personal choice, but I like the smooth appearance of the fuse. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: <tmbrant1@netzero.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: hinged / removable turtledeck > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net> > > > Dale Johnson and I were discussing a hinged turtledeck at Brodhead. He suggested I build this into the my piet to facilitate inspection of cable connections and such from the top of the airplane. I was thinking about it and wondering if it couldn't just be completely removable. I'm thinking, instead of using stringers, make the turtledeck shape out of 1/16th or 1/8" ply and have it attach with several bolts along the top longerons. Just a thought. I'd seen Dick Navratrils new peit under construction and he made his turtledeck this way - except not detatchable to my knowledge. > > Any thoughts? > > Tom B. > >




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