---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/10/04: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:46 AM - Engine Manuals (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 2. 08:27 AM - Re: Hidden Agenda (Hodgson, Mark O) 3. 09:00 AM - Re: Hidden Agenda (Christian Bobka) 4. 11:34 AM - Re: Hidden Agenda (Hodgson, Mark O) 5. 02:05 PM - Chuck Gantzer Tour America (Isablcorky@aol.com) 6. 04:59 PM - Re: pre-installation fuel tank rinsing (Gary Gower) 7. 08:27 PM - Mike Cuy and the FAA/EAA official Sport Pilot (Andimaxd@aol.com) 8. 09:26 PM - Re: Light Sport Aircraft (Mike Whaley) 9. 10:25 PM - lining up tail section hinges (tmbrant1@netzero.net) 10. 10:45 PM - Re: lining up tail section hinges (Catdesign) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:38 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Manuals --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com For those needing info about small Continental or small Lycoming engines, check out www.mooneymite.com You can contact Dave Rutherford through there and he can send some of the out of print manuals on CD. Terry B. -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hidden Agenda From: "Hodgson, Mark O" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" A 2000 pound car traveling 80 mph has about the same kinetic energy as a 1300 pound LSA with a groundspeed of 100 mph, so they can cause about the same physical damage. But the guy driving the 5000 pound church van with 9 passengers on a highway in a developed area can do way more damage in human terms with his legal driver's license than the LSA pilot with one passenger auguring into a random corn field. So why restrict the LSA pilot more? Because they're the FAA, and they're not happy until you're not happy? Discriminating among licensed drivers for sport pilot privileges, using information collected for a different purpose (private pilot license or even more), doesn't make any sense. Mark Hodgson ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:54 AM PST US d="scan'208"; a="118469204:sNHT15000888" From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hidden Agenda --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" Mark, I also told the feds in one of my many coments that they are discriminating against people who have chosen NOT to have a drivers license. This is common for many people in NYC where owing and driving a car is not an option but yet taking a train ride to the countryside and a cab to the small airport is. Not to mention that I might not want my kid to drive when he is 16 but yet I might want him to fly. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hodgson, Mark O" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hidden Agenda > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" > > A 2000 pound car traveling 80 mph has about the same kinetic energy as a > 1300 pound LSA with a groundspeed of 100 mph, so they can cause about > the same physical damage. But the guy driving the 5000 pound church van > with 9 passengers on a highway in a developed area can do way more > damage in human terms with his legal driver's license than the LSA pilot > with one passenger auguring into a random corn field. So why restrict > the LSA pilot more? Because they're the FAA, and they're not happy > until you're not happy? Discriminating among licensed drivers for sport > pilot privileges, using information collected for a different purpose > (private pilot license or even more), doesn't make any sense. > > Mark Hodgson > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hidden Agenda From: "Hodgson, Mark O" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" Chris, Good points. There's still hope that the EAA and AOPA will have some success with the FAA over this one. Mark Hodgson Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:58 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Chuck Gantzer Tour America Pieters and interested, Chuck called at 1545 from Creve Couer and was about to take off for his afternoon leg toward home. Jefferson City is his first planned stop and he hopes to get farther if the weather and winds will allow. Has rains to the south of his flight line and will be bucking head winds. I asked if he would try for the last leg to Wichita tomorrow. He answered by saying he would attempt an early start tomorrow at 1100. Hope he has plenty of baby oil for that Wichita entrance. Tour America operations shack ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:19 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: pre-installation fuel tank rinsing --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower Here, we test our homebuilt thin aluminum gas tanks like this: Seal the inlet with a piece of inner tube and a hose clamp. In the outlet, with a "T" we put a good 1/4" valve in one side and a condom in the other. inflate the condom and close the valve tight. this is enough air preassure to positive test the tank. If the condom deflates overnight then look for a micro size hole with soap. to much pressure will deform the aluminum tank, to little will not show tiny holes, hard to find, from the welding. Saludos Gary Gower --- Christian Bobka wrote: > Did you pressure test the tank? Best to do with a modified gas cap > with a shrader valve from the local hardware store (looks like a tire > stem but has threads on the other end. They use them on water wells. > You just need a few PSI and a soap solution... > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Douwe Blumberg > To: pietenpolgroup > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:38 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: pre-installation fuel tank rinsing > > > Hello, > > Anybody have any suggestions for a good liquid for a final rinse > before I install my fuel tank? > > I want to get rid of any possible filings, debris, coatings etc > while I can easily do this. It is an aluminum tank. Would distilled > water be good? > > Am shying away from gas, just because it will be rather unpleasant > repeatedly rinsing and emptying that thing with gas. > > Douwe __________________________________ http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:33 PM PST US From: Andimaxd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy and the FAA/EAA official Sport Pilot Mike: You failed to tell us that you were in every other frame of the official EAA Sport Pilot license release. Very Cool !! I went to the Chapter 34 meeting in Arlington, TX. this evening and there were at least a dozen shots, if not more, of you and your plane. A couple of people thought they knew it was a Piet and one older gentleman in front of me said, "They sure are proud of that one!" Good job! That will really get us some exposure. I kept thinking there was going to be a shot of Chuck Gantzer with his smoke on while releasing some toilet paper, just any time during the presentation. Maybe he'll make the revision, next month. Max Davis Arlington, TX. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:59 PM PST US From: "Mike Whaley" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike Whaley" Yeah, these guys called us up at work asking about plans for new designs that we haven't even had a chance to test-build ourselves yet! They can wait and buy a set later, like everyone else. Sheesh. Mike > from the Pietenpol's to build from...There were a few things in St. Croix's > plans that weren't updated like the gussets on the rudder so they must have > been copied from a really old set...Still doesn't seem right to me....He > also sells plans for the Ariel... > Ed G. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:31 PM PST US From: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" Subject: Pietenpol-List: lining up tail section hinges --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" I've made a router jig for routing the tail section hinges flush to the outside of the beams.. I've read some mention previously of lining up the hinges (using Vi Kapler hinges). Is this difficult to do? In my jig I've allowed for about 3/32" of play all the way around so that slight adjustments can be made. I read where people were having trouble lining up the holes for the hinges. When I hold two pieces together, the holes seem to match up fine. Maybe I'm missing something. Any comments? Tom B. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:07 PM PST US From: "Catdesign" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lining up tail section hinges --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" Sounds like the only thing your missing is a mistake. Don't worry your can add one later Chris T. Sacramento, CA do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: lining up tail section hinges > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" > > > I've made a router jig for routing the tail section hinges flush to the outside of the beams.. I've read some mention previously of lining up the hinges (using Vi Kapler hinges). Is this difficult to do? In my jig I've allowed for about 3/32" of play all the way around so that slight adjustments can be made. I read where people were having trouble lining up the holes for the hinges. When I hold two pieces together, the holes seem to match up fine. > > Maybe I'm missing something. Any comments? > > Tom B. > >