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1. 12:45 AM - Re: Side Trusses and Empanage (Clif Dawson)
2. 01:38 AM - Re: Side Trusses and Empanage (Stacy Clark)
3. 02:22 AM - Re: formula for arc for instrument panels and turtledeck curves (Ed Grentzer)
4. 06:07 AM - photoshare???? (Ed Grentzer)
5. 06:18 AM - phone # for Dennis Hall? (Douwe Blumberg)
6. 06:43 AM - Re: phone # for Dennis Hall? (Jim Markle)
7. 07:51 AM - Build Your Own Pietenpol shirts (KTS5TA6@wmconnect.com)
8. 09:53 AM - Re: photoshare???? (Matt Dralle)
9. 10:03 AM - T-shirts/Randy Bruce (LAWRENCE WILLIAMS)
10. 10:29 AM - Re: photoshare???? (Ed Grentzer)
11. 10:36 AM - a Rumor about Chuck building something new........ (Michael D Cuy)
12. 11:00 AM - Re: formula for arc for instrument panels and (Michael D Cuy)
13. 11:02 AM - Re: T-shirts/Randy Bruce (Jim Markle)
14. 03:24 PM - Re: Florida Pieters (Carl D. Vought)
15. 03:32 PM - Re: Florida Pieters (Isablcorky@aol.com)
16. 03:36 PM - Re: T-shirts/Randy Bruce (Ed Grentzer)
17. 03:39 PM - Corky, are you in the sites? (walt evans)
18. 04:36 PM - Re: Corky, are you in the sites? (Isablcorky@aol.com)
19. 05:14 PM - Anchorage Piet (Mike Luther)
20. 07:44 PM - Re: Anchorage Piet (John Ford)
21. 07:53 PM - Re: T-shirts/Randy Bruce (DOUGLAS BLACKBURN)
22. 08:33 PM - Re: a Rumor about Chuck building something new........ (Rcaprd@aol.com)
23. 08:39 PM - Re: Side Trusses and Empanage (tmbrant1@netzero.net)
24. 09:32 PM - Re: Anchorage Piet (Stacy Clark)
25. 09:42 PM - Re: Side Trusses and Empanage (Stacy Clark)
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| Subject: | Re: Side Trusses and Empanage |
<000901c48347$bb1e0540$7aaaa1d1@DJQ7LV21>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Go to;
mykitplane.com
In the picture gallery you will see quite a few Piets
The empannage is featured in mine, Clif Dawson,
Walt Evans, Jim Markle and Gary McNeal has
199 detail pics with the tail a few pages in. There's
others as well. There are others with pics in various
places. Check the archives.
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stacy Clark"
<stacy@unicom-alaska.com>>
> Another question about the empennage (for everyone): Do the gussets go
all
> the way to the outer edge as the plans "actually" show and then rounded
out
> to match the leading and trailing edges - or - do they tuck behind the
> pre-routed edges? I can envision reasons for both ways (cosmetic vs. more
> area glued).
>
> Stacy
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| Subject: | Re: Side Trusses and Empanage |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stacy Clark" <stacy@unicom-alaska.com>
Clif,
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | formula for arc for instrument panels and turtledeck |
curves
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
Hi Ken....No I don't have a digital camera, but I just got access to a
scanner recently so I'll see If I can get a couple on line today ...Ed G
>From: "Ken Chambers" <ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>turtledeck curves
>Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 17:40:58 -0500
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers"
><ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>
>Ed
>
>I forget if I've seen any photos of your instrument panel and turtle decks.
>Any available online?
>
>Ken
>
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Grentzer
>Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:26 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>turtledeck curves
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Man...you guys get complicated...Not being the mathmatician type I just
>followed the idea in plans...In the center bottom of page one Bernie shows
>how to lay out the radius for the instrument panel by useing a 12 3/4 inch
>radious. I think he uses this same radius for all the upper panels....To
>raise my turtle deck 1 1/2" I layed out the width and height I wanted and a
>centerline on my plywood... I marked a point on the C/L 12 3/4" ( Bernie's
>radius) minus the 1 1/2" that I wanted to raise the deck. Then I measured
>from the pivot point to the width marks ...marked this dimension on a
>stick
>
>of wood and drilled drilled two holes ,,,one for a pencil point and the
>other for a nail and swung the arch. I might have had to play with the
>pivot
>
>point slightly to get it touch all three point( I don't remember) ( it's
>probably that old timers disease(sp) again) But for the non mathmaticians
>out there this backwoods method worked out perfectly for me and the radius
>of the panel LOOKS just right..... Ed G
>
>
> >From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
> >turtledeck curves
> >Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:49:05 -0500
> >
> >I had been trying to figure out how to lay out the instrument panels and
> >turtle deck curves for a while, but couldn't figure out the radii,
> >especially when there were changes in width of the arc or height of it.
> >Actually, I have been wanting a formula to do this for some time.
> > One of the nail benders at work last week knew the formula and he
> >shared it with me. Works like a charm. it is:
> >the width of the arc squared plus the height of the arc squared, divided
>by
>
> >the width of the arc.
> > I drilled a 1 X 2 out for a round pencil and cut a slot so it would
> >fit snugly then just drove a finishing nail through the 1 X 2 the
>distance
> >from the point to the correct radius. Works great and is free!
> >Dennis
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
Hey guys ( and Gals)..... Am I doing something wrong ...I made up a small
photo folder and tried e-mailing it to www.matronics.com/photoshare but MSN
is saying they don't recognize the address???? I'm not a computer whiz so
any help would be appreciated...TIA Ed G
>From: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>turtledeck curves
>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:21:16 +0000
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>
>Hi Ken....No I don't have a digital camera, but I just got access to a
>scanner recently so I'll see If I can get a couple on line today ...Ed G
>
>>From: "Ken Chambers" <ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>turtledeck curves
>>Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 17:40:58 -0500
>>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers"
>><ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>I forget if I've seen any photos of your instrument panel and turtle
>>decks.
>>Any available online?
>>
>>Ken
>>
>>Do not archive
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed
>>Grentzer
>>Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:26 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>turtledeck curves
>>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
>><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Man...you guys get complicated...Not being the mathmatician type I just
>>followed the idea in plans...In the center bottom of page one Bernie shows
>>how to lay out the radius for the instrument panel by useing a 12 3/4 inch
>>radious. I think he uses this same radius for all the upper panels....To
>>raise my turtle deck 1 1/2" I layed out the width and height I wanted and
>>a
>>centerline on my plywood... I marked a point on the C/L 12 3/4" (
>>Bernie's
>>radius) minus the 1 1/2" that I wanted to raise the deck. Then I measured
>>from the pivot point to the width marks ...marked this dimension on a
>>stick
>>
>>of wood and drilled drilled two holes ,,,one for a pencil point and the
>>other for a nail and swung the arch. I might have had to play with the
>>pivot
>>
>>point slightly to get it touch all three point( I don't remember) ( it's
>>probably that old timers disease(sp) again) But for the non mathmaticians
>>out there this backwoods method worked out perfectly for me and the radius
>>of the panel LOOKS just right..... Ed G
>>
>>
>> >From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
>> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>> >turtledeck curves
>> >Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:49:05 -0500
>> >
>> >I had been trying to figure out how to lay out the instrument panels and
>> >turtle deck curves for a while, but couldn't figure out the radii,
>> >especially when there were changes in width of the arc or height of it.
>> >Actually, I have been wanting a formula to do this for some time.
>> > One of the nail benders at work last week knew the formula and he
>> >shared it with me. Works like a charm. it is:
>> >the width of the arc squared plus the height of the arc squared, divided
>>by
>>
>> >the width of the arc.
>> > I drilled a 1 X 2 out for a round pencil and cut a slot so it would
>> >fit snugly then just drove a finishing nail through the 1 X 2 the
>>distance
>> >from the point to the correct radius. Works great and is free!
>> >Dennis
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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>
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| Subject: | phone # for Dennis Hall? |
Does anyone have a phone number for Dennis Hall. He's the guy that built and hangars
"the Blue Heron" Piet at Broadhead?
Thanks,
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: phone # for Dennis Hall? |
Well, I have a phone number here someplace....can't find it right now...
If that can't be found, you might try:
Dennis Hall
PO Box 54
Brodhead, WI 53520 0054
----- Original Message -----
From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: phone # for Dennis Hall?
Does anyone have a phone number for Dennis Hall. He's the guy that built and
hangars "the Blue Heron" Piet at Broadhead?
Thanks,
Douwe
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| Subject: | Build Your Own Pietenpol shirts |
BYOP shirts were mailed this morning by US Priority Mail with Delivery
Confirmation to those who placed orders for them. Sorry for the delay. I appreciate
your patience while I was away attending to my mom's funeral.
I still have a small quantity of BYOP shirts in adult Medium, Large and Extra
Large. The children's sizes are all gone.
Sterling Brooks
www.byop.us
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| Subject: | Re: photoshare???? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
You should email it to:
pictures@matronics.com
Matt Dralle
List Admin
At 06:06 AM 8/16/2004 Monday, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Hey guys ( and Gals)..... Am I doing something wrong ...I made up a small
>photo folder and tried e-mailing it to www.matronics.com/photoshare but
>MSN is saying they don't recognize the address???? I'm not a computer whiz
>so any help would be appreciated...TIA Ed G
>
>>From: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>turtledeck curves
>>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:21:16 +0000
>>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>
>>Hi Ken....No I don't have a digital camera, but I just got access to a
>>scanner recently so I'll see If I can get a couple on line today ...Ed G
>>
>>>From: "Ken Chambers" <ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>turtledeck curves
>>>Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 17:40:58 -0500
>>>
>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers"
>>><ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>I forget if I've seen any photos of your instrument panel and turtle decks.
>>>Any available online?
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>
>>>Do not archive
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Grentzer
>>>Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:26 AM
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>turtledeck curves
>>>
>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Man...you guys get complicated...Not being the mathmatician type I just
>>>followed the idea in plans...In the center bottom of page one Bernie shows
>>>how to lay out the radius for the instrument panel by useing a 12 3/4 inch
>>>radious. I think he uses this same radius for all the upper panels....To
>>>raise my turtle deck 1 1/2" I layed out the width and height I wanted and a
>>>centerline on my plywood... I marked a point on the C/L 12 3/4" ( Bernie's
>>>radius) minus the 1 1/2" that I wanted to raise the deck. Then I measured
>>>from the pivot point to the width marks ...marked this dimension on a stick
>>>
>>>of wood and drilled drilled two holes ,,,one for a pencil point and the
>>>other for a nail and swung the arch. I might have had to play with the pivot
>>>
>>>point slightly to get it touch all three point( I don't remember) ( it's
>>>probably that old timers disease(sp) again) But for the non mathmaticians
>>>out there this backwoods method worked out perfectly for me and the radius
>>>of the panel LOOKS just right..... Ed G
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
>>> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>> >turtledeck curves
>>> >Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:49:05 -0500
>>> >
>>> >I had been trying to figure out how to lay out the instrument panels and
>>> >turtle deck curves for a while, but couldn't figure out the radii,
>>> >especially when there were changes in width of the arc or height of it.
>>> >Actually, I have been wanting a formula to do this for some time.
>>> > One of the nail benders at work last week knew the formula and he
>>> >shared it with me. Works like a charm. it is:
>>> >the width of the arc squared plus the height of the arc squared,
>>> divided by
>>>
>>> >the width of the arc.
>>> > I drilled a 1 X 2 out for a round pencil and cut a slot so it would
>>> >fit snugly then just drove a finishing nail through the 1 X 2 the distance
>>> >from the point to the correct radius. Works great and is free!
>>> >Dennis
>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________________
>>>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | T-shirts/Randy Bruce |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:07:16 -0400
Pieters (and Polers!!),
I finally got a call from Randy through some sort of jury-rigged phone line. He
and his boat are OK after the eye of the hurricane went right over him at the
Sanford marina. He spent the night securing boats for others and trying to keep
marina property safe. The adrenaline didn't quit flowing until early the next
morning when he collapsed into a heap. Because of the debris and recovery efforts,
he hasn't been able to get out to his hangar to see what damage was done
there.
His concern right now is about Alan Wise. The Orlando Executive Airport where Alan's
Piet is hangared, is just a field of rubble. We might have lost one of the
icons of our little group. Alan bought the Piet from -??- and has been flying
it for about 27 years. It's probably been seen by more people at more fly-ins
than any other and Alan has been a tireless ambassador for the design. It will
really be a shame if it's gone. Still nothing from GN-1 pilot and Piet builder
Ted Brusseau from Naples.
There are still T-shirts available but you'll have to mail Randy because of the
phone situation. Here's your chance to get a shirt that was designed in Florida,
printed in California, driven to Brodhead and has now survived a major hurricane!
Randy's address is:
Randy Bruce
P.O. Box 2353
Sanford, FL 32772
The total cost is still $16 and he gets them out to you within a couple of hours
after receiving your order.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: photoshare???? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
Thanks Matt...no wonder it wouldn't go....Ed
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: photoshare????
>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:49:12 -0700
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>You should email it to:
>
> pictures@matronics.com
>
>Matt Dralle
>List Admin
>
>
>At 06:06 AM 8/16/2004 Monday, you wrote:
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
>><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>>Hey guys ( and Gals)..... Am I doing something wrong ...I made up a small
>>photo folder and tried e-mailing it to www.matronics.com/photoshare but
>>MSN is saying they don't recognize the address???? I'm not a computer whiz
>>so any help would be appreciated...TIA Ed G
>>
>>>From: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>turtledeck curves
>>>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:21:16 +0000
>>>
>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
>>><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>Hi Ken....No I don't have a digital camera, but I just got access to a
>>>scanner recently so I'll see If I can get a couple on line today ...Ed G
>>>
>>>>From: "Ken Chambers" <ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>>>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>>turtledeck curves
>>>>Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 17:40:58 -0500
>>>>
>>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers"
>>>><ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>I forget if I've seen any photos of your instrument panel and turtle
>>>>decks.
>>>>Any available online?
>>>>
>>>>Ken
>>>>
>>>>Do not archive
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed
>>>>Grentzer
>>>>Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:26 AM
>>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>>turtledeck curves
>>>>
>>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
>>>><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Man...you guys get complicated...Not being the mathmatician type I
>>>>just
>>>>followed the idea in plans...In the center bottom of page one Bernie
>>>>shows
>>>>how to lay out the radius for the instrument panel by useing a 12 3/4
>>>>inch
>>>>radious. I think he uses this same radius for all the upper panels....To
>>>>raise my turtle deck 1 1/2" I layed out the width and height I wanted
>>>>and a
>>>>centerline on my plywood... I marked a point on the C/L 12 3/4" (
>>>>Bernie's
>>>>radius) minus the 1 1/2" that I wanted to raise the deck. Then I
>>>>measured
>>>>from the pivot point to the width marks ...marked this dimension on a
>>>>stick
>>>>
>>>>of wood and drilled drilled two holes ,,,one for a pencil point and the
>>>>other for a nail and swung the arch. I might have had to play with the
>>>>pivot
>>>>
>>>>point slightly to get it touch all three point( I don't remember) ( it's
>>>>probably that old timers disease(sp) again) But for the non
>>>>mathmaticians
>>>>out there this backwoods method worked out perfectly for me and the
>>>>radius
>>>>of the panel LOOKS just right..... Ed G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
>>>> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>>> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>> >turtledeck curves
>>>> >Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:49:05 -0500
>>>> >
>>>> >I had been trying to figure out how to lay out the instrument panels
>>>>and
>>>> >turtle deck curves for a while, but couldn't figure out the radii,
>>>> >especially when there were changes in width of the arc or height of
>>>>it.
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>>>>divided by
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>>>> > I drilled a 1 X 2 out for a round pencil and cut a slot so it
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>>>>distance
>>>> >from the point to the correct radius. Works great and is free!
>>>> >Dennis
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| Subject: | a Rumor about Chuck building something new........ |
I heard rumblings that Chuck was building a set of floats for his Pietenpol
so he could fly over and land at the
Party Cove and give rides to any lady that requested one. Looks like he
won't be flying to Brodhead next summer
but to the Party Cove. Maybe we should relocate the Piet fly in to there ?
Mike C.
do not archive
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turtledeck curves
| Subject: | formula for arc for instrument panels and |
turtledeck curves
You guys are amazing math wizzes at this formula stuff, but let me let the
common man in on a simple way to figure this out. Using my
white posterboard from the drug store or Wal Mart, I just folded it in
half and made a crease. Remember on Valentie's Day at school, our first
grade teacher showed us how to make perfect hearts out of construction
paper ? Same concept. I just marked my two longeron distance on the
poster board, marked a center line, folded on that line and then just made
pencil arcs to the height I wanted (1" higher than plans for the fire wall,
front and rear pits, and the turtledeck door.) that pleased my eye. I
cut out the arc and opened the fold and transferred this pattern to my 1/8"
plywood and cut w/ a sabre saw.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: T-shirts/Randy Bruce |
Just called Alan Wise......he's fine and the hanger next to his is gone....his
is fine.....
VERY good news......
JM
----- Original Message -----
From: LAWRENCE WILLIAMS
To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:07 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: T-shirts/Randy Bruce
Pieters (and Polers!!),
I finally got a call from Randy through some sort of jury-rigged phone line.
He and his boat are OK after the eye of the hurricane went right over him at the
Sanford marina. He spent the night securing boats for others and trying to
keep marina property safe. The adrenaline didn't quit flowing until early the
next morning when he collapsed into a heap. Because of the debris and recovery
efforts, he hasn't been able to get out to his hangar to see what damage was
done there.
His concern right now is about Alan Wise. The Orlando Executive Airport where
Alan's Piet is hangared, is just a field of rubble. We might have lost one of
the icons of our little group. Alan bought the Piet from -??- and has been flying
it for about 27 years. It's probably been seen by more people at more fly-ins
than any other and Alan has been a tireless ambassador for the design. It
will really be a shame if it's gone. Still nothing from GN-1 pilot and Piet builder
Ted Brusseau from Naples.
There are still T-shirts available but you'll have to mail Randy because of the
phone situation. Here's your chance to get a shirt that was designed in Florida,
printed in California, driven to Brodhead and has now survived a major hurricane!
Randy's address is:
Randy Bruce
P.O. Box 2353
Sanford, FL 32772
The total cost is still $16 and he gets them out to you within a couple of hours
after receiving your order.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Pieters |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
Corky, you are WAY too valuable an asset for us to ever let you off this
list! Who else can tell stories like that?? '48 eh...My bro was a freshman
at LSU then but I didn't make my entrance until summer of '52. ..and they
didn't get rid of me until '63 (post-Air Force tour+graduate school). Carl
Vought....
Do not archive.
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:45:11 EDT, Isablcorky@aol.com wrote :
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com
>
>
>
> Do Not archive
>
> Carl,
> I could tell you many stories about Uncle Earl both personal experiences
and
> hearsay. Earl was elected Lt Gov AFTER his brother Huey was shot. When
the La.
> scandals were exposed in the summer of 1939 the Gov went to the Fed pen
in
> Atlanta. The president of LSU went to a Fed prison farm in Tennessee but
ole
> uncle Earl came out as clean as slick willie. The night before the 39
Governor's
> election Earl and Sam Jones his opponent bought 15 minutes alternate time
on
> all the La radio stations. It was the most fantastic, humorous bit of
charges
> and counter charges ever heard. Sam won, then " you are my
sunshine "Jimmy
> Davis won in 43 but Earl came back in 47. He promised every soul in
Louisiana a
> glass of buttermilk on inauguration day for their vote. I was teaching at
LSU
> that May 48 day and I assure you there were buttermilk stands every 200
feet on
> the campus. Didn't see Uncle Earl again until I found myself in Chicago
> playing tuba in a shrine band for the national convention. Had a date
with a
> beautiful yankee chick I had met by chance in nawlins the preceding Mardi
Gras. We
> found ourselves in this Copacabana club on the near northside and who
would you
> believe was there being smothered with broads. Yep, Uncle Earl. He went
on to
> live a wild publized life while I settled down to the existence of a
southern
> gentlemen.
> The one thing I remember he said which has always stuck with me." When
you
> are in politics, don't worry about what they are saying about you and
talking
> about, only worry when they stop talking about you".
> P S I was the only KC in that Chicago parade.
> Corky in La. where they have had a little politics. The worst was the
> presidential election of 1876.
> Do Not Archive
> Please do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Pieters |
Thanks Carl, I HOPE I'm not leaving the scene soon but one never knows.
Go Tigers
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: T-shirts/Randy Bruce |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
Yee Haw....I would have hated to have seen Alan Wise's venerable ole Piet
trashed by a hurricane..Sorry about the hanger next door...But Soooo glad
Alan and his Piet are ok...So far so good on not loseing any Piets to the
hurricane...not all Florida pilots were that lucky.....
>From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: T-shirts/Randy Bruce
>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:02:51 -0500
>
>Just called Alan Wise......he's fine and the hanger next to his is
>gone....his is fine.....
>
>VERY good news......
>
>JM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: LAWRENCE WILLIAMS
> To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:07 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: T-shirts/Randy Bruce
>
>
> Pieters (and Polers!!),
>
> I finally got a call from Randy through some sort of jury-rigged phone
>line. He and his boat are OK after the eye of the hurricane went right over
>him at the Sanford marina. He spent the night securing boats for others and
>trying to keep marina property safe. The adrenaline didn't quit flowing
>until early the next morning when he collapsed into a heap. Because of the
>debris and recovery efforts, he hasn't been able to get out to his hangar
>to see what damage was done there.
>
> His concern right now is about Alan Wise. The Orlando Executive Airport
>where Alan's Piet is hangared, is just a field of rubble. We might have
>lost one of the icons of our little group. Alan bought the Piet from -??-
>and has been flying it for about 27 years. It's probably been seen by more
>people at more fly-ins than any other and Alan has been a tireless
>ambassador for the design. It will really be a shame if it's gone. Still
>nothing from GN-1 pilot and Piet builder Ted Brusseau from Naples.
>
> There are still T-shirts available but you'll have to mail Randy because
>of the phone situation. Here's your chance to get a shirt that was designed
>in Florida, printed in California, driven to Brodhead and has now survived
>a major hurricane!
>
> Randy's address is:
>
> Randy Bruce
> P.O. Box 2353
> Sanford, FL 32772
>
> The total cost is still $16 and he gets them out to you within a couple
>of hours after receiving your order.
>
> Larry
>
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| Subject: | Corky, are you in the sites? |
Corky,
I looked at the projected weather map and see one of the next 'cains heading straight
at New Orleans. What's the story?
Better batten down Your hatches.!
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Re: Corky, are you in the sites? |
Walt,
I'm so far from nawlins, 330sm, that they call us yankees up here in
Shreespote. No worry, they usually play out by the time they get here, about 230
from
the Gulf, but plenty of needed rain. Thanks though for the advisory.
Corky and Isabelle drinking mint julips before our dinner of Isabelle's baked
beans and HOT sausage. Could life be better? Yes, just get rid of ABC CBS NBC
NAACP ACLU FAA AOPA EAA FOX CNN. Just junk your TV and the whole world would
be so much better off. Oh, I forgot another ridance, " THE new york times"
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Hi Folks,
>
> I am a new member to the list, so be gentle with me, OK? :)
>
> I had the opportunity and the pleasure of showing my complete, uncovered, Piet
at the Fed Ex aviation Trade Show, here in Anchorage, last May 15 and 16.
We had a turnout of 17,000 people. I was surrounded by everything from Ultralites
to F-16s. I was present with my plane all during the event and did not
hear even one word of negative feedback. Let that be encouragement to all new
builders who are worried someone might not like our qenuine piece of aviation
heritage.
>
> As for questions: Who out there can give me some feel for how many hours a
day I can comfortably fly my Piet ? My dream is to fly from Anchorage to Brodhead
in July of 2006. My son and I were there in July of 1993 and I need to
catch-up on all of the Bratwurst that I have missed.
>
> Mike Luther
> N1953M
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| Subject: | Re: Anchorage Piet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
Mike,
I hope you're making the holes for the feet big enough for bunny boots!
I learned to fly at Merrill Field in 1990 and miss the place horribly,
now that I'm in Indiana. People here have no clue what real traffic is.
:0 Can't wait to see your machine at Brodhead in 2006...
John
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
>>> luther@gci.net 8/16/2004 6:42:51 PM >>>
Hi Folks,
>
> I am a new member to the list, so be gentle with me, OK? :)
>
> I had the opportunity and the pleasure of showing my complete,
uncovered, Piet at the Fed Ex aviation Trade Show, here in Anchorage,
last May 15 and 16. We had a turnout of 17,000 people. I was
surrounded by everything from Ultralites to F-16s. I was present with
my plane all during the event and did not hear even one word of negative
feedback. Let that be encouragement to all new builders who are worried
someone might not like our qenuine piece of aviation heritage.
>
> As for questions: Who out there can give me some feel for how many
hours a day I can comfortably fly my Piet ? My dream is to fly from
Anchorage to Brodhead in July of 2006. My son and I were there in
July of 1993 and I need to catch-up on all of the Bratwurst that I have
missed.
>
> Mike Luther
> N1953M
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| Subject: | Re: T-shirts/Randy Bruce |
Hey Karry,
Thanks for the update on Randy. I received my shirts a couple of weeks ago.
They look REALLY NICE!!!!!!!!! Here is a shot of them.
Doug & Elizabeth Blackburn
www.inlandsloperebels.com
W W's Conversion Manual 3202, 5782
www.flycorvair.com
----- Original Message -----
From: LAWRENCE WILLIAMS
To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:07 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: T-shirts/Randy Bruce
Pieters (and Polers!!),
I finally got a call from Randy through some sort of jury-rigged phone line.
He and his boat are OK after the eye of the hurricane went right over him at the
Sanford marina. He spent the night securing boats for others and trying to
keep marina property safe. The adrenaline didn't quit flowing until early the
next morning when he collapsed into a heap. Because of the debris and recovery
efforts, he hasn't been able to get out to his hangar to see what damage was
done there.
His concern right now is about Alan Wise. The Orlando Executive Airport where
Alan's Piet is hangared, is just a field of rubble. We might have lost one of
the icons of our little group. Alan bought the Piet from -??- and has been flying
it for about 27 years. It's probably been seen by more people at more fly-ins
than any other and Alan has been a tireless ambassador for the design. It
will really be a shame if it's gone. Still nothing from GN-1 pilot and Piet builder
Ted Brusseau from Naples.
There are still T-shirts available but you'll have to mail Randy because of the
phone situation. Here's your chance to get a shirt that was designed in Florida,
printed in California, driven to Brodhead and has now survived a major hurricane!
Randy's address is:
Randy Bruce
P.O. Box 2353
Sanford, FL 32772
The total cost is still $16 and he gets them out to you within a couple of hours
after receiving your order.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: a Rumor about Chuck building something new........ |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 8/16/04 12:36:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes:
<< I heard rumblings that Chuck was building a set of floats for his
Pietenpol
so he could fly over and land at the
Party Cove and give rides to any lady that requested one. Looks like he
won't be flying to Brodhead next summer
but to the Party Cove. Maybe we should relocate the Piet fly in to there ?
Mike C.
do not archive >>
Ah, Yesss !! Helping them climb in and out it the BEST part !!
Well...sombody has to do it.
Chuck G.
p.s. I'm putting together a text description, flight by flight, of my big
adventure, and have been invited to do a presentation at the local EAA Chapter
88. Soon, I will be sending flying stories out to this Piet List.
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| Subject: | Re: Side Trusses and Empanage |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Stacey,
For what it's worth, the dado blade method is a bit tricky when you come to the
end of the piece you're cutting. If you're taking off 3/4" for instance, you
have 3/4" of dado blade exposed and only raised out of your table about 3/16"
inch at the top of the blade arc. That leaves a big opening for the end of the
piece to be pushed into with your push-stick (don't ask how I know). If you
have a router with a router table, that might give you better results. The
dado blade works well, it's just a bit tricky on the ends.
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Re: Anchorage Piet |
Hey neighbor...
Stacy Clark
The Bethel Belle Project
Bethel, AK
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that is
to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
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| Subject: | Re: Side Trusses and Empanage |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stacy Clark" <stacy@unicom-alaska.com>
Understand. Here's another tip. When cutting that long 1"x2" stick into 2"
jig blocks with a jigsaw (and you moving along at a relatively fast mindless
pace) remember to make it all the way to the side before cutting the next
block...
Do not archive
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that
is to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
----- Original Message -----
From: <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Side Trusses and Empanage
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net"
<tmbrant1@netzero.net>
>
>
> Stacey,
>
> For what it's worth, the dado blade method is a bit tricky when you come
to the end of the piece you're cutting. If you're taking off 3/4" for
instance, you have 3/4" of dado blade exposed and only raised out of your
table about 3/16" inch at the top of the blade arc. That leaves a big
opening for the end of the piece to be pushed into with your push-stick
(don't ask how I know). If you have a router with a router table, that
might give you better results. The dado blade works well, it's just a bit
tricky on the ends.
>
> Tom B.
>
>
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