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1. 05:34 AM - Alan Wise's Piet (Michael D Cuy)
2. 05:44 AM - long cross country in an Air Camper (Michael D Cuy)
3. 06:25 AM - did Raytheon miss you ? (Michael D Cuy)
4. 06:53 AM - Re: long cross country in an Air Camper (Larry Ragan)
5. 11:03 AM - Re: Anchorage Piet (TomTravis@aol.com)
6. 12:06 PM - Re: long cross country in an Air Camper (Larry Nelson)
7. 12:13 PM - Piper landing gear and wing struts? (Stacy Clark)
8. 12:28 PM - Re: photoshare???? (Ed Grentzer)
9. 04:33 PM - Re: Piper landing gear and wing struts? (Richard Navratil)
10. 06:47 PM - Re: OT - NBC News Practices Terrorism (Christian Bobka)
11. 06:49 PM - Re: Hidden Agenda (Christian Bobka)
12. 07:03 PM - Re: a Rumor about Chuck building something (Kip and Beth Gardner)
13. 07:30 PM - Re: a Rumor about Chuck building (John Ford)
14. 10:14 PM - Re: Piper landing gear and wing struts? (Catdesign)
15. 11:51 PM - Re: Piper landing gear and wing struts? (Stacy Clark)
16. 11:53 PM - Re: Piper landing gear and wing struts? (Stacy Clark)
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| Subject: | Alan Wise's Piet |
The gentleman who built Alan Wise's Air Camper is Clyde Buckley from
Michigan. I want to say that the plane was built in the late
60's or early 70's but that may be in error. Clyde sold the plane to Alan
and ended up building a Ford powered Air Camper that he trailered up to
Oshkosh in 1999 when we had 17 Pietenpols, including Randy's Bruce's
beautiful plane, on the line for the 70th anniversary. Clyde also built a
Navy colored Corby Starlet in the mix as well.
Mike C.
do not archive
PS-- One year I was at Brodhead when Alan landed after flying from
Florida (against his wife's wishes) and he must have been 75 then, and
one of his older buddies handed him an ice cold can of beer and shook his
hand before he even had his seat belt un-buckled. Alan was known to fly
some "Chuck Gantzer" type of legs in his plane.
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| Subject: | long cross country in an Air Camper |
Mike Luther---that is really great that you were able to display your plane
at the Fed Ex Trade Show ! As for how long you could comfortably fly your
Piet, that depends on a few things. I carry 17 gallons with a 4.3 gph
fuel burn so I normally go for 2 hour legs. The longest I've gone was
2:20 and by then you are getting stiff and can only change your seating
position so many times. I carry a red plastic port a thing for when
mother nature calls, but that can be trouble if you are in hot-day
turbulence or have a nose heavy or light situation. (it sure beats
wasting time finding an airport to land at though) The worst part about
thermals turn you into a wrestler with the stick and power. One minute you
are going up at 500 fpm with reduced throttle and the next minute you can't
climb with full power and are going down at 200 fpm. The constant banging
around in that kind of weather makes my endurance shorter, esp. with
headwinds. Bottled water in the seat helps along with some snacks like
peanut butter crackers or pretzels & hard candies. (the in flight meal
service in a Piet plain sucks:)) (but the in flight movies are
beautiful !)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | did Raytheon miss you ? |
Chuck-- did they hold your job for you back in Wichita ? I know last
year you told me they wouldn't let you take
a week without pay or something like that to extend your vacation. I'm
glad it worked out for you this year.
You must have lots of stories to tell in the lunch room---too bad I'm
guessing that 90% of your co-workers couldn't
give a flip about old-time cross country flying. Glad you do.
Corky sure did a good job keeping us posted as to your whereabouts during
your flight. What was he, your
Chief NCO or something like that ? Glad you pulled him off the bench
and put him into the TACO Air Force Reserve slot !
Mike C.
do not archive
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| Subject: | long cross country in an Air Camper |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Larry Ragan" <lragan@hotmail.com>
Mike,
Sounds like you have better in-flight meals than most major air carriers.
Larry Ragan
Jacksonville, Fl.
lragan@hotmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Anchorage Piet |
Beautiful! Think I'll go out to the airplane factory (garage) and start
making sawdust.
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: long cross country in an Air Camper |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
Mike C, I am wondering which engine you have in your
Pietenpol and if your plane, cockpit dimension wise,
is "per plans"??? Thanks in advance.
--- Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Mike Luther---that is really great that you were
> able to display your plane
> at the Fed Ex Trade Show ! As for how long you
> could comfortably fly your
> Piet, that depends on a few things. I carry 17
> gallons with a 4.3 gph
> fuel burn so I normally go for 2 hour legs. The
> longest I've gone was
> 2:20 and by then you are getting stiff and can only
> change your seating
> position so many times. I carry a red plastic port
> a thing for when
> mother nature calls, but that can be trouble if you
> are in hot-day
> turbulence or have a nose heavy or light situation.
> (it sure beats
> wasting time finding an airport to land at though)
> The worst part about
> x-country in a Piet for me are the hot, windy, bumpy
> days where the
> thermals turn you into a wrestler with the stick and
> power. One minute you
> are going up at 500 fpm with reduced throttle and
> the next minute you can't
> climb with full power and are going down at 200 fpm.
> The constant banging
> around in that kind of weather makes my endurance
> shorter, esp. with
> headwinds. Bottled water in the seat helps along
> with some snacks like
> peanut butter crackers or pretzels & hard candies.
> (the in flight meal
> service in a Piet plain sucks:)) (but the in
> flight movies are
> beautiful !)
>
> Mike C.
>
>
>
>
=====
Larry Nelson
Springfield, MO
Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
1963 GMC 4106-1618
SV/ Spirit of America
ARS WB0JOT
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Piper landing gear and wing struts? |
Up here in Bethel we have more than our fair share of Cubs and Super Cubs in pieces
(and other aircraft for that matter as well). One of the A&P's I share the
hanger with has offered to give me (as in free) a set of Cub wing struts (inspected).
He's also where I'm getting my A65 from. Anyways, the struts got
me to thinking about the Piper landing gear. What are the pros and cons of going
Piper? There seems to be a lot of benefit going that route as in my case
the Belle will be taking off and landing quite a bit over a five month period
when complete...
That brings up another subject: The missive that I always include at the bottom
of my posts...
Some of you already know why I'm building the Bethel Belle and some of you don't.
In a nutshell I'm doing this all for charity -- it's a promise I made to
a dying eleven year-old boy a few years ago and I intend to keep it. I have noticed
lately however that I haven't gotten the responses from many of the usuals
that I once did, and I wonder if that might not be the reason. I know things
like that sometimes put me off as well. And though I may come across as a
nut (got news for ya, look at what you fly...) I can assure you I am not -- just
single-minded. So, for the record, no, I'm not a bible-thumping christian
(though I surely believe in God because by rights I should be living in a refrigerator
box somewhere). I drink, I smoke, I swear, I should be divorced, etc.
Maybe that'll put you at ease and I'll get those responses I need to help
me get this project done on time (leaving Bethel May 2006). To those that have
responded, thank you.
Stacy Clark
The Bethel Belle Project
Bethel, Alaska
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that is
to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
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| Subject: | Re: photoshare???? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
Hi Matt...I scanned a new set of pictures to a different type of file and
e-mailed it to you @ pictures@matronics.com my Microsoft outlook at work
doesn't give me a confirmation that they even left my computer so if you
don't receive them would you please let me know
Thanks Ed Grentzer from the Pietenpol list
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: photoshare????
>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:49:12 -0700
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>You should email it to:
>
> pictures@matronics.com
>
>Matt Dralle
>List Admin
>
>
>At 06:06 AM 8/16/2004 Monday, you wrote:
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
>><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>>Hey guys ( and Gals)..... Am I doing something wrong ...I made up a small
>>photo folder and tried e-mailing it to www.matronics.com/photoshare but
>>MSN is saying they don't recognize the address???? I'm not a computer whiz
>>so any help would be appreciated...TIA Ed G
>>
>>>From: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>turtledeck curves
>>>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:21:16 +0000
>>>
>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
>>><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>Hi Ken....No I don't have a digital camera, but I just got access to a
>>>scanner recently so I'll see If I can get a couple on line today ...Ed G
>>>
>>>>From: "Ken Chambers" <ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>>>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>>turtledeck curves
>>>>Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 17:40:58 -0500
>>>>
>>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers"
>>>><ken@prototype-ideas.com>
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>I forget if I've seen any photos of your instrument panel and turtle
>>>>decks.
>>>>Any available online?
>>>>
>>>>Ken
>>>>
>>>>Do not archive
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed
>>>>Grentzer
>>>>Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:26 AM
>>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>>turtledeck curves
>>>>
>>>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
>>>><flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Man...you guys get complicated...Not being the mathmatician type I
>>>>just
>>>>followed the idea in plans...In the center bottom of page one Bernie
>>>>shows
>>>>how to lay out the radius for the instrument panel by useing a 12 3/4
>>>>inch
>>>>radious. I think he uses this same radius for all the upper panels....To
>>>>raise my turtle deck 1 1/2" I layed out the width and height I wanted
>>>>and a
>>>>centerline on my plywood... I marked a point on the C/L 12 3/4" (
>>>>Bernie's
>>>>radius) minus the 1 1/2" that I wanted to raise the deck. Then I
>>>>measured
>>>>from the pivot point to the width marks ...marked this dimension on a
>>>>stick
>>>>
>>>>of wood and drilled drilled two holes ,,,one for a pencil point and the
>>>>other for a nail and swung the arch. I might have had to play with the
>>>>pivot
>>>>
>>>>point slightly to get it touch all three point( I don't remember) ( it's
>>>>probably that old timers disease(sp) again) But for the non
>>>>mathmaticians
>>>>out there this backwoods method worked out perfectly for me and the
>>>>radius
>>>>of the panel LOOKS just right..... Ed G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
>>>> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>>> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: formula for arc for instrument panels and
>>>> >turtledeck curves
>>>> >Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:49:05 -0500
>>>> >
>>>> >I had been trying to figure out how to lay out the instrument panels
>>>>and
>>>> >turtle deck curves for a while, but couldn't figure out the radii,
>>>> >especially when there were changes in width of the arc or height of
>>>>it.
>>>> >Actually, I have been wanting a formula to do this for some time.
>>>> > One of the nail benders at work last week knew the formula and he
>>>> >shared it with me. Works like a charm. it is:
>>>> >the width of the arc squared plus the height of the arc squared,
>>>>divided by
>>>>
>>>> >the width of the arc.
>>>> > I drilled a 1 X 2 out for a round pencil and cut a slot so it
>>>>would
>>>> >fit snugly then just drove a finishing nail through the 1 X 2 the
>>>>distance
>>>> >from the point to the correct radius. Works great and is free!
>>>> >Dennis
>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Piper landing gear and wing struts? |
Stacy
I cant speak for anyone else, but I havent responded to some of your posts because
your siuation geographically leaves me feeling unqualified, since I can only
imagine some of the considerations you may have to build into your project.
I am at 900 ft elev. I have flown alot in the western mountains but never in
a single engine, and know enough to be nervous about potential conditions you
can run into.
If I feel that I have something to contribute I will always be willing throw it
in.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stacy Clark
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piper landing gear and wing struts?
Up here in Bethel we have more than our fair share of Cubs and Super Cubs in
pieces (and other aircraft for that matter as well). One of the A&P's I share
the hanger with has offered to give me (as in free) a set of Cub wing struts
(inspected). He's also where I'm getting my A65 from. Anyways, the struts got
me to thinking about the Piper landing gear. What are the pros and cons of
going Piper? There seems to be a lot of benefit going that route as in my case
the Belle will be taking off and landing quite a bit over a five month period
when complete...
That brings up another subject: The missive that I always include at the bottom
of my posts...
Some of you already know why I'm building the Bethel Belle and some of you don't.
In a nutshell I'm doing this all for charity -- it's a promise I made to
a dying eleven year-old boy a few years ago and I intend to keep it. I have
noticed lately however that I haven't gotten the responses from many of the usuals
that I once did, and I wonder if that might not be the reason. I know things
like that sometimes put me off as well. And though I may come across as
a nut (got news for ya, look at what you fly...) I can assure you I am not --
just single-minded. So, for the record, no, I'm not a bible-thumping christian
(though I surely believe in God because by rights I should be living in a refrigerator
box somewhere). I drink, I smoke, I swear, I should be divorced,
etc. Maybe that'll put you at ease and I'll get those responses I need to help
me get this project done on time (leaving Bethel May 2006). To those that have
responded, thank you.
Stacy Clark
The Bethel Belle Project
Bethel, Alaska
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that
is to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
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d="scan'208"; a="173643398:sNHT24159608"
| Subject: | Re: OT - NBC News Practices Terrorism |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
BBC is really slanted and the wrong way....
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - NBC News Practices Terrorism
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
>
> AMEN to that!
>
> John Ford
> john@indstate.edu
> 812-237-8542
>
>
> >>> ashcan@earthlink.net 8/15/2004 9:26:01 PM >>>
>
> If you want real news, turn off the TV and listen to BBC.
>
> Jim Ash
>
>
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d="scan'217,208"; a="209393450:sNHT20624242"
| Subject: | Re: Hidden Agenda |
Dick,
This was ten years ago and I KNOW he drove a bus. Saw him many times in it smiling....
chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hidden Agenda
Hi All
We just got back home and I'm wading thru the messages. One small correction
here Chris. A School Bus driver along with all commercial truck drivers has
to pass a physical similar to the 3rd class FAA every two years. In addition
drivers have to be in a pool to be randomly selected for drug and alcholol testing
at any time while employed. Drivers also have to undergo periodic US DOT
training and are subject to work hours limits similar to commercial pilots.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Christian Bobka
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hidden Agenda
Don't forget about my medicalless buddy who drove 60 kids on a school bus everyday
with nine bypasses on his heart yet could not fly a 1200 lb airplane by
himself....
I say if a medical has been denied in the past then the guy can still fly but
with no passengers. He would be LESS of a risk then than he would if he drove
a car on public highways...
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hidden Agenda
Leroy B,
Just having stayed 9 days at Oshkosh it's a miracle you have 2 cents left
to give us.
As a greatgrandfather many times with a valid driver's license I would deem
it a pleasure to ride with your mother.
If you can't see the hidden beauro agenda then no explanation is possible.
YKW
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new........
| Subject: | Re: a Rumor about Chuck building something |
new........
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
At 11:32 PM -0400 8/16/04, Rcaprd@aol.com wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 8/16/04 12:36:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
>Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes:
>
><< I heard rumblings that Chuck was building a set of floats for his
>Pietenpol
> so he could fly over and land at the
> Party Cove and give rides to any lady that requested one. Looks like he
> won't be flying to Brodhead next summer
> but to the Party Cove. Maybe we should relocate the Piet fly in to there
?
>
>
> Mike C.
>
> do not archive >>
>
>Ah, Yesss !! Helping them climb in and out it the BEST part !!
>Well...sombody has to do it.
>
>Chuck G.
>p.s. I'm putting together a text description, flight by flight, of my big
>adventure, and have been invited to do a presentation at the local EAA Chapter
>88. Soon, I will be sending flying stories out to this Piet List.
>
Chuck,
Just be careful & keep your airspeed down when you are hopping
rides...don't want none of those Party Cove gals winding up with
wind burn on their chests :).
Kip Gardner
--
North Canton, OH
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somethingnew........
| Subject: | Re: a Rumor about Chuck building |
somethingnew........
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
Kip,
I'm trying to think of a comment to post that is appropriate yet, well,
appropriate for the list, but I can't. I can picture so many scenarios,
and in every one of them Chuck has an ear-to-ear grin. I bet he stocks
up on baby oil...
John
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
>>> kipandbeth@earthlink.net Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:07:26 PM >>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner
<kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
At 11:32 PM -0400 8/16/04, Rcaprd@aol.com wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 8/16/04 12:36:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
>Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes:
>
><< I heard rumblings that Chuck was building a set of floats for his
>Pietenpol
> so he could fly over and land at the
> Party Cove and give rides to any lady that requested one. Looks
like he
> won't be flying to Brodhead next summer
> but to the Party Cove. Maybe we should relocate the Piet fly in
to there ?
>
>
> Mike C.
>
> do not archive >>
>
>Ah, Yesss !! Helping them climb in and out it the BEST part !!
>Well...sombody has to do it.
>
>Chuck G.
>p.s. I'm putting together a text description, flight by flight, of my
big
>adventure, and have been invited to do a presentation at the local EAA
Chapter
>88. Soon, I will be sending flying stories out to this Piet List.
>
Chuck,
Just be careful & keep your airspeed down when you are hopping
rides...don't want none of those Party Cove gals winding up with
wind burn on their chests :).
Kip Gardner
--
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: Piper landing gear and wing struts? |
Stacy, the cub struts should work but you will have to cut them down in length.
I believe it was cub gear that Grega used on the GN-1. If you look close you can
see that the rear gear mount on a GN-1 is not the same location as it is on
a Piet. You may have to modify the gear legs to fit a pit fuselage but I bet
you could get it to work.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: Stacy Clark
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piper landing gear and wing struts?
Up here in Bethel we have more than our fair share of Cubs and Super Cubs in
pieces (and other aircraft for that matter as well). One of the A&P's I share
the hanger with has offered to give me (as in free) a set of Cub wing struts
(inspected). He's also where I'm getting my A65 from. Anyways, the struts got
me to thinking about the Piper landing gear. What are the pros and cons of
going Piper? There seems to be a lot of benefit going that route as in my case
the Belle will be taking off and landing quite a bit over a five month period
when complete...
That brings up another subject: The missive that I always include at the bottom
of my posts...
Some of you already know why I'm building the Bethel Belle and some of you don't.
In a nutshell I'm doing this all for charity -- it's a promise I made to
a dying eleven year-old boy a few years ago and I intend to keep it. I have
noticed lately however that I haven't gotten the responses from many of the usuals
that I once did, and I wonder if that might not be the reason. I know things
like that sometimes put me off as well. And though I may come across as
a nut (got news for ya, look at what you fly...) I can assure you I am not --
just single-minded. So, for the record, no, I'm not a bible-thumping christian
(though I surely believe in God because by rights I should be living in a refrigerator
box somewhere). I drink, I smoke, I swear, I should be divorced,
etc. Maybe that'll put you at ease and I'll get those responses I need to help
me get this project done on time (leaving Bethel May 2006). To those that have
responded, thank you.
Stacy Clark
The Bethel Belle Project
Bethel, Alaska
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that
is to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
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Dick,
Thanks for the reply. I'm actually not building the aircraft for here in Alaska.
My goal is to fly the Belle to Washington D.C. via all the lower 48 states.
When I originally started developing this project about a year ago now (taking
it from planning to action in other words) it was for a well known childrens
hospital in the southeast. A few years prior I had heard one of their radiothons
and a letter from a dying boy to his mom...and you might say hit me where
I lived. Anyway, over this past year I've been working with them trying to
get their official nod of approval for the flight. Our litiginous society being
what it is however, the final word came down about a month ago that they would
no longer allow "any" point to point fund rasiers because of insurance (read:
public relations) concerns. That meant planes, cars, motorcycles, boats,
and even bikes. But oh well, life goes on. So, now I'm doing this flight for
any charity the donors desire and the flight will be "officially unaffiliated"
with any charity. There's obviously far more to it than that, but I won't
get into that here. So, going back to the original question, what's your opinion
on using Cub struts and landing gear?
Stacy :-)
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that is
to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
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| Subject: | Re: Piper landing gear and wing struts? |
Chris,
Sure would be nice if I could. Free's always better. BTW, what airport you out
of in SAC. I used to control at Exec?
Stacy
Do not archive
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that is
to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piper landing gear and wing struts?
Stacy, the cub struts should work but you will have to cut them down in length.
I believe it was cub gear that Grega used on the GN-1. If you look close you
can see that the rear gear mount on a GN-1 is not the same location as it is
on a Piet. You may have to modify the gear legs to fit a pit fuselage but I bet
you could get it to work.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: Stacy Clark
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piper landing gear and wing struts?
Up here in Bethel we have more than our fair share of Cubs and Super Cubs in
pieces (and other aircraft for that matter as well). One of the A&P's I share
the hanger with has offered to give me (as in free) a set of Cub wing struts
(inspected). He's also where I'm getting my A65 from. Anyways, the struts
got me to thinking about the Piper landing gear. What are the pros and cons of
going Piper? There seems to be a lot of benefit going that route as in my case
the Belle will be taking off and landing quite a bit over a five month period
when complete...
That brings up another subject: The missive that I always include at the bottom
of my posts...
Some of you already know why I'm building the Bethel Belle and some of you
don't. In a nutshell I'm doing this all for charity -- it's a promise I made
to a dying eleven year-old boy a few years ago and I intend to keep it. I have
noticed lately however that I haven't gotten the responses from many of the
usuals that I once did, and I wonder if that might not be the reason. I know
things like that sometimes put me off as well. And though I may come across
as a nut (got news for ya, look at what you fly...) I can assure you I am not
-- just single-minded. So, for the record, no, I'm not a bible-thumping christian
(though I surely believe in God because by rights I should be living in a
refrigerator box somewhere). I drink, I smoke, I swear, I should be divorced,
etc. Maybe that'll put you at ease and I'll get those responses I need to help
me get this project done on time (leaving Bethel May 2006). To those that
have responded, thank you.
Stacy Clark
The Bethel Belle Project
Bethel, Alaska
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that
is to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
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