---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/22/04: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:50 AM - "sprung gear" (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 2. 06:46 AM - BPA newsletters and Trim... (Jim Markle) 3. 07:00 AM - Re: BPA newsletters and Trim... (Dave and Connie) 4. 07:27 AM - Re: BPA newsletters and Trim... (John Carmen) 5. 08:01 AM - Re: BPA newsletters and Trim... (Jim Markle) 6. 08:01 AM - Re: "sprung gear" (Christian Bobka) 7. 08:26 AM - Re: Grant MacLaren (Larry Nelson) 8. 08:40 AM - Re: BPA newsletters and Trim... (John Carmen) 9. 09:03 AM - Re: "sprung gear" (cgalley) 10. 09:34 AM - Re: Grant MacLaren (Jim Markle) 11. 09:49 AM - correction....: Grant MacLaren (Jim Markle) 12. 10:35 AM - Wheel Hubs (David Paulsen) 13. 10:43 AM - Re: Wheel Hubs (Jim Markle) 14. 11:57 AM - Re: "sprung gear" (Stacy Clark) 15. 12:02 PM - N74DV gets some attention today (DJ Vegh) 16. 12:03 PM - Re: Wheel Hubs (Stacy Clark) 17. 02:43 PM - Re: Grant MacLaren (Carl D. Vought) 18. 06:45 PM - Re: Wheel Hubs () 19. 11:14 PM - Re: BPA newsletters and Trim... (Alexander Birca (MD/RMD)) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:18 AM PST US ETAuAhUAtUNC81BJeSRHg8n4BlnM44AoNT8CFQCS5WJmBTy+E4ZCjcWNOM2EXqf09g== From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Pietenpol-List: "sprung gear" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) To whomever ti was going to build the plans "sprung gear", I 'd like to suggest making the shock struts J-3 style by turning the lower bungee cross tube 90 degrees to the top one, then spacing it the same distance from the top tube as on the J-3 and buying the factory made shock rings from AS & S etc. Stories are that the 6' of bungee cord is a real pain to install and get both sides equally tensioned. I made a tool to put rings on TriPacer shocks. Less than 10 min to install 4 rings. Last night I went to our EAA mtg, and one of the members reported attending a Piper forum by Clyde Smith who is a guru of fabric covered Pipers.His latest word is to NOT powder coat anything steel. He says the coating is so hard ( non flexing ) that it develops cracks letting moisture in causing corrosion. He reported a failure of a part that everyone thought should have lasted forever under powder coating. Something else to worry about. Leon S. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:48 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... Newsletters and trim? That's an odd combination..... First the newsletters: There have been several really good suggestions for getting the newsletters scanned/converted/copied to CD, etc. And thanks! I definitely agree that having the info available on CD would just be fantastic. I did try the process a while back and scanned a few random pages. Those are available on mykitplane.com. That's really the best way I think. Having them available on CD is a great idea! Since I'm in the enterprise software business, I have no shortage of HW or software for scanning/converting.....I just need the time to do it (or the money to pay to have it done). And being in the Pietenpol building business, I have no shortage of tasks/expenses for completing my project......I just put a VERY high value on the time I get to do it...... So scanning/converting "ain't gonna happen" in Plano...... :-) But I'll gladly make a set available to whoever would like to take on the task (and share a copy of the resulting CD!). Keep in mind that even with a couple of missing issues (I found 3 missing issues, there may be 1 or 2 more missing), there are AT LEAST 300 DOUBLE SIDED pages containing issues #1 from July 1983 through issue #63 "2ndQuarter 1999". So let me know who's willing to "step up" and I'll get the copies on the way to you..... Now the trim: I've attached a picture of how one builder (Dennis Hall, I think) did the trim. I know this has been discussed at length but I thought our group might find a picture of interest....as I recall, Dennis mentioned that when he painted (or powdercoated) the tube, the "trim" didn't stay in place quite as well...it kept sliding back down....just a friction fit....something to keep in mind. Jim in Plano..... ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:17 AM PST US From: Dave and Connie Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... <005801c4884e$68e8a440$6401a8c0@FAMILY> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie Anybody got a place to put them if I can get them scanned? I have the set that was put together by Mike Bell in 2001. I also have access to copiers with Xerox FlowPort software installed (scan the doc, get a pdf in the email). A few issues a day would not be a problem. Are there any copyright issues/do we have permission? Dave N36078 '41 BC-12-65 At 09:46 AM 8/22/2004, you wrote: >Newsletters and trim? That's an odd combination..... > >: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:54 AM PST US From: "John Carmen" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Carmen" Jim I have a pretty good collection of back issues. Which one's you missing and I will see if I have them. Ill have them converted to PDF and emailed. I can do a few for free where I work. John C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... Newsletters and trim? That's an odd combination..... First the newsletters: There have been several really good suggestions for getting the newsletters scanned/converted/copied to CD, etc. And thanks! I definitely agree that having the info available on CD would just be fantastic. I did try the process a while back and scanned a few random pages. Those are available on mykitplane.com. That's really the best way I think. Having them available on CD is a great idea! Since I'm in the enterprise software business, I have no shortage of HW or software for scanning/converting.....I just need the time to do it (or the money to pay to have it done). And being in the Pietenpol building business, I have no shortage of tasks/expenses for completing my project......I just put a VERY high value on the time I get to do it...... So scanning/converting "ain't gonna happen" in Plano...... :-) But I'll gladly make a set available to whoever would like to take on the task (and share a copy of the resulting CD!). Keep in mind that even with a couple of missing issues (I found 3 missing issues, there may be 1 or 2 more missing), there are AT LEAST 300 DOUBLE SIDED pages containing issues #1 from July 1983 through issue #63 "2ndQuarter 1999". So let me know who's willing to "step up" and I'll get the copies on the way to you..... Now the trim: I've attached a picture of how one builder (Dennis Hall, I think) did the trim. I know this has been discussed at length but I thought our group might find a picture of interest....as I recall, Dennis mentioned that when he painted (or powdercoated) the tube, the "trim" didn't stay in place quite as well...it kept sliding back down....just a friction fit....something to keep in mind. Jim in Plano..... ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:13 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" Wow, that would be great John! If you can do that, I'll be glad to copy them to CD and distribute them. Checking a little more carefully, looks like I'm only missing issues 34 & 38. I also have originals of issues 50-54 & 57 available (thanks to Max Davis). The copies I got from Mike Bell a couple years ago were 3rd or 4th generation....certainly usable but minimal quality. If you'll send me your address (offline, please) I'll send you a good set of copies of the above issues to include in the conversion. Not sure if your set is like mine or closer to original quality, but using originals (or close to originals) would sure be the way to go! Thanks! JM ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carmen" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Carmen" > > Jim > > I have a pretty good collection of back issues. Which one's you missing > and I will see if I have them. Ill have them converted to PDF and > emailed. I can do a few for free where I work. > > John C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Markle > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:46 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... > > Newsletters and trim? That's an odd combination..... > > First the newsletters: > There have been several really good suggestions for getting the > newsletters > scanned/converted/copied to CD, etc. And thanks! I definitely agree > that > having the info available on CD would just be fantastic. I did try the > process a while back and scanned a few random pages. Those are > available on > mykitplane.com. That's really the best way I think. Having them > available > on CD is a great idea! > > Since I'm in the enterprise software business, I have no shortage of HW > or > software for scanning/converting.....I just need the time to do it (or > the > money to pay to have it done). > > And being in the Pietenpol building business, I have no shortage of > tasks/expenses for completing my project......I just put a VERY high > value > on the time I get to do it...... > > So scanning/converting "ain't gonna happen" in Plano...... :-) > > But I'll gladly make a set available to whoever would like to take on > the > task (and share a copy of the resulting CD!). > > Keep in mind that even with a couple of missing issues (I found 3 > missing > issues, there may be 1 or 2 more missing), there are AT LEAST 300 DOUBLE > SIDED pages containing issues #1 from July 1983 through issue #63 > "2ndQuarter 1999". > > So let me know who's willing to "step up" and I'll get the copies on the > way > to you..... > > Now the trim: > I've attached a picture of how one builder (Dennis Hall, I think) did > the > trim. I know this has been discussed at length but I thought our group > might find a picture of interest....as I recall, Dennis mentioned that > when > he painted (or powdercoated) the tube, the "trim" didn't stay in place > quite > as well...it kept sliding back down....just a friction fit....something > to > keep in mind. > > Jim in Plano..... > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:13 AM PST US d="scan'208"; a="223482586:sNHT16924732" From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "sprung gear" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" Leon, He is using the wrong powder. He needs to use a semi bridging urethane based powder. He is obviously using an epoxy which is too brittle, like porcelin enamel, and has no bridging ability. It will also chalk with exposure to the sun. chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Stefan" Subject: Pietenpol-List: "sprung gear" > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) > > To whomever ti was going to build the plans "sprung gear", I 'd like to > suggest making the shock struts J-3 style by turning the lower bungee > cross tube 90 degrees to the top one, then spacing it the same distance > from the top tube as on the J-3 and buying the factory made shock rings > from AS & S etc. Stories are that the 6' of bungee cord is a real pain > to install and get both sides equally tensioned. I made a tool to put > rings on TriPacer shocks. Less than 10 min to install 4 rings. Last > night I went to our EAA mtg, and one of the members reported attending a > Piper forum by Clyde Smith who is a guru of fabric covered Pipers.His > latest word is to NOT powder coat anything steel. He says the coating is > so hard ( non flexing ) that it develops cracks letting moisture in > causing corrosion. He reported a failure of a part that everyone thought > should have lasted forever under powder coating. Something else to worry > about. Leon S. > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:55 AM PST US From: Larry Nelson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Grant MacLaren --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson Does anyone have any contact information for Grant? He produced a video of the construction of Howard Hendersons Pietenpol and I am talking with Joe Santana about that very same airplane, which is for sale. I know this video is not available but maybe someone has a copy of it. (I have copy of Mike Cuy's very fine video.) I would also like any contact info for Howard Strutman who used to fly this plane. Thanks ===== Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A 1963 GMC 4106-1618 SV/ Spirit of America ARS WB0JOT __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:52 AM PST US From: "John Carmen" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Carmen" JM Sadly I don't have 34 or 38, I do have original 50,52,53 and 57. ill scan them. What if each person on the list converted a few to PDF from originals and emailed them to someone that can compile them. ( this person does not have to convert) this will spread the cost in time and money around. And not everyone has every issue. I will start with issues 50, 52, 53, 56, and 57. Any takers? John C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" Wow, that would be great John! If you can do that, I'll be glad to copy them to CD and distribute them. Checking a little more carefully, looks like I'm only missing issues 34 & 38. I also have originals of issues 50-54 & 57 available (thanks to Max Davis). The copies I got from Mike Bell a couple years ago were 3rd or 4th generation....certainly usable but minimal quality. If you'll send me your address (offline, please) I'll send you a good set of copies of the above issues to include in the conversion. Not sure if your set is like mine or closer to original quality, but using originals (or close to originals) would sure be the way to go! Thanks! JM ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carmen" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Carmen" > > Jim > > I have a pretty good collection of back issues. Which one's you missing > and I will see if I have them. Ill have them converted to PDF and > emailed. I can do a few for free where I work. > > John C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Markle > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:46 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... > > Newsletters and trim? That's an odd combination..... > > First the newsletters: > There have been several really good suggestions for getting the > newsletters > scanned/converted/copied to CD, etc. And thanks! I definitely agree > that > having the info available on CD would just be fantastic. I did try the > process a while back and scanned a few random pages. Those are > available on > mykitplane.com. That's really the best way I think. Having them > available > on CD is a great idea! > > Since I'm in the enterprise software business, I have no shortage of HW > or > software for scanning/converting.....I just need the time to do it (or > the > money to pay to have it done). > > And being in the Pietenpol building business, I have no shortage of > tasks/expenses for completing my project......I just put a VERY high > value > on the time I get to do it...... > > So scanning/converting "ain't gonna happen" in Plano...... :-) > > But I'll gladly make a set available to whoever would like to take on > the > task (and share a copy of the resulting CD!). > > Keep in mind that even with a couple of missing issues (I found 3 > missing > issues, there may be 1 or 2 more missing), there are AT LEAST 300 DOUBLE > SIDED pages containing issues #1 from July 1983 through issue #63 > "2ndQuarter 1999". > > So let me know who's willing to "step up" and I'll get the copies on the > way > to you..... > > Now the trim: > I've attached a picture of how one builder (Dennis Hall, I think) did > the > trim. I know this has been discussed at length but I thought our group > might find a picture of interest....as I recall, Dennis mentioned that > when > he painted (or powdercoated) the tube, the "trim" didn't stay in place > quite > as well...it kept sliding back down....just a friction fit....something > to > keep in mind. > > Jim in Plano..... > > == == == == ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:53 AM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "sprung gear" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "cgalley" What you say might well be true, but I lost a Honda to rust that formed under the power coat. My Buick is showing the same rusting symptoms under the powder coat. I suppose that wouldn't be so bad except on both cars it was on the rear suspension links. The attach point for a panhard link broke off on the Honda and the read differential rusted thru so let the gear lube out. Now I understand that the corrosion exposure is much greater in a car due to salt and moisture, but I wonder how a Florida plane would fare. I have seen the wing spar of a Florida based Cessna developed holes from corrosion. Once powder coat cracks and lets in moisture, the corrosion process is accelerated as it is protected from drying. Remember the FAA has yet to permit powder coating for aluminum as far as I know. Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "sprung gear" > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > Leon, > > He is using the wrong powder. He needs to use a semi bridging urethane > based powder. > > He is obviously using an epoxy which is too brittle, like porcelin enamel, > and has no bridging ability. It will also chalk with exposure to the sun. > > chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leon Stefan" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 7:49 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: "sprung gear" > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) > > > > To whomever ti was going to build the plans "sprung gear", I 'd like to > > suggest making the shock struts J-3 style by turning the lower bungee > > cross tube 90 degrees to the top one, then spacing it the same distance > > from the top tube as on the J-3 and buying the factory made shock rings > > from AS & S etc. Stories are that the 6' of bungee cord is a real pain > > to install and get both sides equally tensioned. I made a tool to put > > rings on TriPacer shocks. Less than 10 min to install 4 rings. Last > > night I went to our EAA mtg, and one of the members reported attending a > > Piper forum by Clyde Smith who is a guru of fabric covered Pipers.His > > latest word is to NOT powder coat anything steel. He says the coating is > > so hard ( non flexing ) that it develops cracks letting moisture in > > causing corrosion. He reported a failure of a part that everyone thought > > should have lasted forever under powder coating. Something else to worry > > about. Leon S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:03 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Grant MacLaren --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" I have a copy of it and Grant gave me permission to distribute it.... I won't sell it but if you'll send me a VHS cassette with return postage and packaging, I'll copy it for you.... Jim in Plano TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Nelson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Grant MacLaren > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson > > > Does anyone have any contact information for Grant? He > produced a video of the construction of Howard > Hendersons Pietenpol and I am talking with Joe Santana > about that very same airplane, which is for sale. I > know this video is not available but maybe someone has > a copy of it. (I have copy of Mike Cuy's very fine > video.) I would also like any contact info for Howard > Strutman who used to fly this plane. Thanks > > ===== > Larry Nelson > Springfield, MO > Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A > 1963 GMC 4106-1618 > SV/ Spirit of America > ARS WB0JOT > > > __________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:17 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: correction....: Pietenpol-List: Grant MacLaren --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" Oops, I went back and checked the note Grant sent me and it says nothing about "distribution"..... So I sent him a note to request his approval to make copies...... JM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Grant MacLaren > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" > > I have a copy of it and Grant gave me permission to distribute it.... > > I won't sell it but if you'll send me a VHS cassette with return postage and > packaging, I'll copy it for you.... > > Jim in Plano TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Nelson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Grant MacLaren > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson > > > > > > Does anyone have any contact information for Grant? He > > produced a video of the construction of Howard > > Hendersons Pietenpol and I am talking with Joe Santana > > about that very same airplane, which is for sale. I > > know this video is not available but maybe someone has > > a copy of it. (I have copy of Mike Cuy's very fine > > video.) I would also like any contact info for Howard > > Strutman who used to fly this plane. Thanks > > > > ===== > > Larry Nelson > > Springfield, MO > > Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A > > 1963 GMC 4106-1618 > > SV/ Spirit of America > > ARS WB0JOT > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:35 AM PST US From: "David Paulsen" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheel Hubs I finished making my wheel hubs and have sent them to Buchanan's for spoking. I have a bad feeling that I made them a tad bit heavier than they should be. Did anyone on the list happen to weigh their wheel hubs? Dave in Mo. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:04 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheel Hubs About 1.75lbs each (Ken Perkins http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoNameMvc-002H.jpg&PhotoID92 hubs....) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Paulsen To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheel Hubs I finished making my wheel hubs and have sent them to Buchanan's for spoking. I have a bad feeling that I made them a tad bit heavier than they should be. Did anyone on the list happen to weigh their wheel hubs? Dave in Mo. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:57:47 AM PST US From: "Stacy Clark" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "sprung gear" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stacy Clark" Leon, That was me thanks for the tip. Stacy Do not archive There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that is to achieve it -- Stacy Clark ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:02:07 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" Subject: Pietenpol-List: N74DV gets some attention today --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" Woke up this morning, pulled up the weather and saw that we were only going to see a high of 102 today...... "ooooohhhh that's nice and cool" I says to myself, "maybe I'll work on the plane". Cleaned out the shop from all the crap that has accumulated this summer and rolled out N74DV. Had to stare at it for about 20 minutes to regroup and figure out my new plan of attack. I spent about an hour today finishing up the mixture control bellcrank that's bolted to the firewall. So..... with cooler weather on the horizon I have kicked off the building season a month early. Firewall forward is about 85% complete. I plan on having it 98% by Copperstate Fly-in in October (not including cowling). Then it's time to put the wings on, run the aileron cables, take it all apart and then the big nasty "C" word.... Cover. ugggghhhh I'm nervous about the covering but I'll read the books and watch the videos many times before then. I'm gonna do my best to have this machine flying by April or May.... finances and time permitting. DJ Vegh Mesa, AZ N74DV www.imagedv.com/aircamper _ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:20 PM PST US From: "Stacy Clark" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheel Hubs Just fill the tires with heilium...that way they'll be lighter :-) Do not archive There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that is to achieve it -- Stacy Clark ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:31 PM PST US From: "Carl D. Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Grant MacLaren --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" I have a copy I bought several years ago...Carl On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT), Larry Nelson wrote : > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson > > > Does anyone have any contact information for Grant? He > produced a video of the construction of Howard > Hendersons Pietenpol and I am talking with Joe Santana > about that very same airplane, which is for sale. I > know this video is not available but maybe someone has > a copy of it. (I have copy of Mike Cuy's very fine > video.) I would also like any contact info for Howard > Strutman who used to fly this plane. Thanks > > ===== > Larry Nelson > Springfield, MO > Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A > 1963 GMC 4106-1618 > SV/ Spirit of America > ARS WB0JOT > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:35 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheel Hubs I don't have the weight of just the hubs but the weight of the Jenny style gear with 19" rims and 3.50" tires, ash gear legs, axle, spreader bars, all cross cables and turnbuckles, and no brakes is 60 pounds. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: David Paulsen To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheel Hubs I finished making my wheel hubs and have sent them to Buchanan's for spoking. I have a bad feeling that I made them a tad bit heavier than they should be. Did anyone on the list happen to weigh their wheel hubs? Dave in Mo. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:14:10 PM PST US From: "Alexander Birca (MD/RMD)" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alexander Birca (MD/RMD)" I am ready to scan them and then will return them on the CD in whatever you want (jpg, djvu e.t.c.) I am sure in djvu format there will not be a big size file, just a couple of megs. Just send me the copy of the entire newsletters. BR, Alex Birca, Moldova -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletters and Trim... So let me know who's willing to "step up" and I'll get the copies on the way to you.....