---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/01/04: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:39 AM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (David Esslinger) 2. 05:14 AM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Ralph) 3. 07:04 AM - Re: .020" aluminum leading edge (Barry Davis) 4. 09:15 AM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Hubbard, Eugene) 5. 10:06 AM - online aviation java calculators - very cool (DJ Vegh) 6. 10:13 AM - compass (Douwe Blumberg) 7. 10:39 AM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Steve Ruse) 8. 12:49 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Mike King) 9. 02:25 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (hjarrett) 10. 04:10 PM - Re: .020" aluminum leading edge (DJ Vegh) 11. 05:15 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (HOEVELMANN) 12. 05:52 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Richard Navratil) 13. 05:59 PM - ops manual (Richard Navratil) 14. 08:01 PM - Air Tech covering system (DJ Vegh) 15. 08:50 PM - test flights (Richard Navratil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:03 AM PST US From: "David Esslinger" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "David Esslinger" Chuck, I'd like to see it also if it's not too much trouble. Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com Doyle, When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you still want it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does anyone else want to see it ? Chuck Gantzer NX770CG ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:28 AM PST US From: "Ralph" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ralph" I would be interested in seeing a copy. I am always interested in anything Pietenpol. I am in Year 13 of 14 of a project. Have just started covering the tail pieces to get a feel for that part of the project. Ralph Hurlbert South Dakota ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:13 AM PST US d="scan'208?jpg'208,145"; a="205608950:sNHT35986068" From: "Barry Davis" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: .020" aluminum leading edge DJ Ours came out really simple. Harold, one of our builders, made a jig out of 2x6 scrap. He sanded the edge to match the leading edge then adjusted the 2x2's as needed. We used 2 pieces overlapped like a J3 Cub so they were not too long to handle. I included a rough sketch to give you the idea of how the jig looks. We used gutter coil for the aluminum, because we got it for free, just cut it with a straight edge and a box cutter. Experiment with some 1' pieces to get the edge distance required then go for it. Check the picture, a couple of smacks with the big hammer and it is done. We could bend all 24 in about an hour. Check the picture, the leading edge is dead-on. Barry Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: .020" aluminum leading edge > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > most plans have .016" aluminum leading edge, but I hear from lots of folks > that it can dent too easily by a stray hand or the occasional hangar bump. > > So I ordered up some .020" sheet. > > Has anyone used this on thier Piet? If so how did you go about installing > it? did you pre-bend the leading edge radius? It looks like this task will > be a pain in the ass. > > tips and advice please. > > DJ > > _ > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:46 AM PST US From: "Hubbard, Eugene" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" Chuck, Please send me a copy of your Piet Ops manual too. I'm "almost" to the covering stage. Gene Hubbard San Diego -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com Doyle, When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you still want it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does anyone else want to see it ? Chuck Gantzer NX770CG ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:39 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" Subject: Pietenpol-List: online aviation java calculators - very cool --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" came across this link recently. http://www.csgnetwork.com/aviationconverters.html over 100 aviation based Java calculators. Everything you can think of is in there. Check it out DJ Vegh www.imagedv.com/aircamper _ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:27 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: compass Does anybody have or know of a good place go get a decent compass at a decent price? I need a pedestal mount for the main cockpit and a panel mount for the front cockpit. thanks, Douwe ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:35 AM PST US From: Steve Ruse Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse I wouldn't mind seeing the manual also. Or, if you'd like, send it to me and I'll host it where everyone can download it. Steve Ruse Irving, TX Quoting "Hubbard, Eugene" : > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" > > Chuck, > > Please send me a copy of your Piet Ops manual too. I'm "almost" to the > covering stage. > > Gene Hubbard > San Diego > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > Rcaprd@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:10 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > Doyle, > When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you > (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you > still want > it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does > anyone else want to see it ? > > Chuck Gantzer > NX770CG > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:08 PM PST US From: "Mike King" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike King" Chuck, I would enjoy looking at a copy. Although I have a GN-1 with an A-80, it should be a good reference to create one for my plane. Thanks. Mike King GN-1 77MK Dallas -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com Doyle, When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you still want it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does anyone else want to see it ? Chuck Gantzer NX770CG ========= ========= ========= http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list ========= ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:14 PM PST US From: "hjarrett" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "hjarrett" Now THAT'S a good idea! Don't forget to let us all know where it is when you host it. ;-) Hank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ruse" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse > > I wouldn't mind seeing the manual also. Or, if you'd like, send it to me and > I'll host it where everyone can download it. > > Steve Ruse > Irving, TX > > Quoting "Hubbard, Eugene" : > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" > > > > Chuck, > > > > Please send me a copy of your Piet Ops manual too. I'm "almost" to the > > covering stage. > > > > Gene Hubbard > > San Diego > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > > Rcaprd@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:10 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > > > Doyle, > > When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you > > (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you > > still want > > it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does > > anyone else want to see it ? > > > > Chuck Gantzer > > NX770CG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:24 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: .020" aluminum leading edge --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" thanks Barry. Sounds like a good idea. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Davis" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: .020" aluminum leading edge > DJ > Ours came out really simple. Harold, one of our builders, made a jig out of > 2x6 scrap. He sanded the edge to match the leading edge then adjusted the > 2x2's as needed. We used 2 pieces overlapped like a J3 Cub so they were not > too long to handle. I included a rough sketch to give you the idea of how > the jig looks. We used gutter coil for the aluminum, because we got it for > free, just cut it with a straight edge and a box cutter. Experiment with > some 1' pieces to get the edge distance required then go for it. Check the > picture, a couple of smacks with the big hammer and it is done. We could > bend all 24 in about an hour. Check the picture, the leading edge is > dead-on. > Barry Davis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DJ Vegh" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:38 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: .020" aluminum leading edge > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > > > most plans have .016" aluminum leading edge, but I hear from lots of folks > > that it can dent too easily by a stray hand or the occasional hangar bump. > > > > So I ordered up some .020" sheet. > > > > Has anyone used this on thier Piet? If so how did you go about installing > > it? did you pre-bend the leading edge radius? It looks like this task > will > > be a pain in the ass. > > > > tips and advice please. > > > > DJ > > > > _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:02 PM PST US From: HOEVELMANN Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual Dear Chuck, I also would like a copy Thanks, J.J. Hoevelmann Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com Doyle, When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you still want it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does anyone else want to see it ? Chuck Gantzer NX770CG ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:46 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" I have already posted my version of the manual on the matronics pic files. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ruse" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse > > I wouldn't mind seeing the manual also. Or, if you'd like, send it to me and > I'll host it where everyone can download it. > > Steve Ruse > Irving, TX > > Quoting "Hubbard, Eugene" : > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" > > > > Chuck, > > > > Please send me a copy of your Piet Ops manual too. I'm "almost" to the > > covering stage. > > > > Gene Hubbard > > San Diego > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > > Rcaprd@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:10 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > > > Doyle, > > When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you > > (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you > > still want > > it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does > > anyone else want to see it ? > > > > Chuck Gantzer > > NX770CG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:10 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Pietenpol-List: ops manual There is the ops manual in photo share dated March 27, 2004 Dick ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:04 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Tech covering system --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" anyone out there with experience or second hand knowledge of Air Tech fabric covering system? http://www.airtechcoatings.com/fabriccovering.html ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:19 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Pietenpol-List: test flights I was reading the EAA flight testing procedures and the FAA circular on certifications. The only reference I found to records regarding flight testing, is the requirement for a log entry at the end of phase 1 tests. I have been updating my operations manual with test data, is it necessery to keep an detailed flight summary for the record? Dick