---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/03/04: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:06 AM - tailhook (Clif Dawson) 2. 10:08 AM - Re: tailhook (Richard Navratil) 3. 11:17 AM - Re: tailhook (John Ford) 4. 12:24 PM - Re: test flights (Rcaprd@aol.com) 5. 12:31 PM - Re: (Rcaprd@aol.com) 6. 12:33 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Rcaprd@aol.com) 7. 01:37 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (TomTravis@aol.com) 8. 02:15 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 9. 02:18 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 10. 02:46 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Alex Sloan) 11. 04:54 PM - wire wheel weights (Douwe Blumberg) 12. 07:23 PM - Re: Pietenpol Opps Manual (Waytogopiet@aol.com) 13. 10:26 PM - Re: wire wheel weights (Ken Anderson) 14. 11:21 PM - Re: wire wheel weights (Mike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:27 AM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailhook In checking out that battery page of Wantaja's I found this link to his hand propping tailhook; http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/tailhook.html I seem to remember a question about this last month. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:10 AM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tailhook Cliff I took a look at this hook, good idea but maybe a snapshackle used on a boat would be simpler. I dont have one at home here to send a pic. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Clif Dawson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:27 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailhook In checking out that battery page of Wantaja's I found this link to his hand propping tailhook; http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/tailhook.html I seem to remember a question about this last month. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:52 AM PST US From: "John Ford" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tailhook I've attached a picture of the incredibly meticulous John Dilatush's tailhook setup on Mountain Piet (from Brodhead '04), for those interested... John John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> horzpool@goldengate.net Friday, September 03, 2004 12:07:37 PM >>> Cliff I took a look at this hook, good idea but maybe a snapshackle used on a boat would be simpler. I dont have one at home here to send a pic. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Clif Dawson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:27 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailhook In checking out that battery page of Wantaja's I found this link to his hand propping tailhook; http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/tailhook.html I seem to remember a question about this last month. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:31 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: test flights --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 9/1/04 10:50:53 PM Central Daylight Time, horzpool@goldengate.net writes: << I have been updating my operations manual with test data, is it necessery to keep an detailed flight summary for the record? >> Dick, I always have, and still do, keep a fairly detailed flight log...especially during the flight test phase...for the reasons that Jim D. mentioned. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:03 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 9/2/04 7:03:54 AM Central Daylight Time, gcardinal@mn.rr.com writes: << Dale and I are getting ready to start our A-65 for the first time. What is the proper procedure for priming the oil pump? Plugs have already been installed and tourqued so I would prefer to find a way that doesn't require removing the plugs. >> Greg, After a long period of time with the tail up level, when I was re-doing the spring struts, the oil pump lost it's prime. I removed the oil pressure line, and made a funnel to fit, to prime my pump. It took quite a while for the oil to run in, maybe a half hour. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:58 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 9/2/04 8:13:55 AM Central Daylight Time, Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes: << Do not carry fat people on hot days. Mike C. do not archive >> Hey, there's an item I left out... Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:45 PM PST US From: TomTravis@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual In a message dated 9/3/2004 2:34:23 PM Central Standard Time, Rcaprd@aol.com writes: > Do not carry fat people on hot days. > > Mike C. > > do not archive >> > > Hey, there's an item I left out... > > Chuck G. > Chuck, I'm glad you did. Otherwise I'd still be wondering what it's like to ride in a Piet. Tom Please do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:15:34 PM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual Piet Gang, Here is a chart I made from the data provided in the A65 Detail Specification (Continental Motors document 1009A). I plan to attach this to my ops manual. See reference at: http://www.mooneymite.com/pdfs/contenginespec.pdf -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:50 PM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com NOTE in my last email there is a link and an attachment. The chart is in the attachment. The link will direct you to the A65-8 detail spec on the mooney mite website. -- Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:43 PM PST US From: Alex Sloan Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan Chuck, I would be grateful for a copy of your ops Manuel. Thanks Alex Sloan -----Original Message----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com [SMTP:Rcaprd@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com Doyle, When we were at Tick Hill, you mentioned you would like me to send you (e-mail) the text of the Pietenpol Operations Manual that I made. Do you still want it ? I sent you an e-mail asking you, but I didn't get a response. Does anyone else want to see it ? Chuck Gantzer NX770CG ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:54:48 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights Thanks everybody for the wheel weight responses, it helped a lot. Guess they're not heavier than anyone else's! Sure look good... ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:51 PM PST US From: Waytogopiet@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Opps Manual Chuck, thanx for the offer. I would very much appreciate your sending a copy to me @ Hixplace@aol.com Don Hicks ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:38 PM PST US From: "Ken Anderson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights I saw a fairly new BMW motorcycle this week noticed the wheels The spokes were attached near the bead area on the rim instead of the center and laced to the opposite side of the hub. looks they may withstand a greater side load set up like that ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights Thanks everybody for the wheel weight responses, it helped a lot. Guess they're not heavier than anyone else's! Sure look good... ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:18 PM PST US From: "Mike" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights Those wheels are what I have on my BMW motorcycle; they are tubeless rims. You may or may not want tubeless tires on your Piet but you are correct in that the farther the angle is off of "vertical" or perpendicularity to the axis, the higher the side load the spoke can carry. This is the reason some of the guys on the list have made their own wider hubs for spoked wheels... to increase that angle. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Anderson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights I saw a fairly new BMW motorcycle this week noticed the wheels The spokes were attached near the bead area on the rim instead of the center and laced to the opposite side of the hub. looks they may withstand a greater side load set up like that