---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/21/04: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:29 AM - Re: Any News fro Corky? (N321TX@wmconnect.com) 2. 05:07 AM - 4130 tubing and AN hardware (Michael D Cuy) 3. 05:20 AM - TACOS go south of the border (Michael D Cuy) 4. 05:53 AM - Re: Question Re: wing dihedral (Sayre, William G) 5. 05:56 AM - Re: Any News fro Corky? (Isablcorky@aol.com) 6. 06:25 AM - Federales (Michael D Cuy) 7. 06:31 AM - Re: Federales (Isablcorky@aol.com) 8. 06:38 AM - flying south of the border (Oscar Zuniga) 9. 07:08 AM - Re: Federales - bring american dollars (DJ Vegh) 10. 08:21 AM - Re: 4130 tubing and AN hardware (Ed Grentzer) 11. 08:44 AM - Re: Federales - bring american dollars (N321TX@wmconnect.com) 12. 08:55 AM - Re: Federales - bring american dollars (Rcaprd@aol.com) 13. 08:59 AM - Dillsburg (Michael D Cuy) 14. 09:06 AM - Re: Federales (Rcaprd@aol.com) 15. 09:14 AM - Re: Dillsburg (Ed Grentzer) 16. 09:27 AM - Re: Any News fro Corky? (Gary Gower) 17. 09:27 AM - Re: First Flight Procedure (Carl D. Vought) 18. 09:40 AM - Re: TACOS go south of the border (Gary Gower) 19. 10:03 AM - Re: Any News fro Corky? (Gary Gower) 20. 10:20 AM - Re: flying south of the border (Gary Gower) 21. 10:26 AM - Re: Federales - bring american dollars (Gary Gower) 22. 10:46 AM - Re: Federales - bring american dollars (Gary Gower) 23. 01:24 PM - Re: TACOS go south of the border (Richard Navratil) 24. 01:39 PM - Re: Intake manifold (Waytogopiet@aol.com) 25. 05:25 PM - Slick Magnetos (Jack Phillips) 26. 06:17 PM - Re: Handheld / GPS (Ted Brousseau) 27. 06:20 PM - Re: "Last Flight Out" on TV last night (Alex Sloan) 28. 07:39 PM - Re: Slick Magnetos (Bert Conoly) 29. 07:53 PM - Re: Slick Magnetos (Richard Navratil) 30. 10:48 PM - Re: Slick Magnetos (Gordon Bowen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:50 AM PST US From: N321TX@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any News fro Corky? Chuck, trust me, would I steer a fellow TACO wrong? And with my vastly superior knowledge of Spanish, and our relationship with Javier ... this could be the Air Camper trip of a lifetime. In fact, I think we should make this our first official flight of TACOs. (Or our first official invasion of Mexico, TACOS invading Mexico... that sounds good and has a nice ring to it.) As soon as we land in Mexico, I'm buying a round of Cuban cigars for everyone in addition to a "near-beer" Corona (lacking any alcohol.) Then I'll teach you a few words in Spanish. "Amigo, como esta" is a good starter, and then patting everyone you meet on the back is a great follow up. Just don't screw up and say "take me to your sister, muy pronto" in Spanish. That tends to make em' a little hostile. The best way to fly into Mexico, based on my Maule adventures to Central America, is to fly to McAllen, Texas (to do the Customs thing) and enter Mexico there, flying along the coast to Veracruz. This is an incredible view, flying along the eastern coast of Mexico, with a view of spectacular mountains off the right wing tip and the ocean beach under the belly. Veracruz has some nice hotels downtown. The airport in Veracruz is also staffed with dozens upon dozens of Federales with assault rifles. They come out with their M-16s and greet Gringos. Made me feel all warm and fuzzy the first time I landed the Maule there a few years ago. I think the are the welcoming committee, they were speaking Spanish so fast, it was difficult to understand them. Since there is no way to lock up the cockpit on a Pietenpol (unlike the Maule I flew) it might be best to camp out under the air camper, or at least one of us can stay with the planes while the rest of us are downtown enjoying the nightlife. Anyway, we have several months to plan and think about this, and I'll send out some Spanish phrases everyone can bone up on. Oh, last thing. Do not use their "car gas" in any airplane. You strictly want to be running their 100LL in your engine. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:48 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 tubing and AN hardware --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Even though the guy is a jerk who owns Dillsburg Aero in PA, he has what you need Sterling and then some. He ships out in 8 foot (UPS max) lengths. I purchased everything from them---AN hardware, cables, 4130 sheet, round, and even my streamlined lift strut material. Dillsburg Aero, 717-432-4589. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:15 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACOS go south of the border --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Sterling, Chuck........I'm just a lilly white Yankee, but from what I've heard--- don't drink the water:) Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:46 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question re: wing dihedral From: "Sayre, William G" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" Gentlemen, The statement that Bernard did not put any dihedral in the original wing is not true. Somewhere I have a description by Bernard for assembling an Air Camper and in it he said that he would have two fellows lift up on the wing tips (of the solid wing) when he measured the distance for the lift struts, specifically to introduce a small amount of dihedral. The wing is built flat but installed with a small amount of dihedral. If you've ever flown a plane with anhedral, you'll quickly understand why. Bill ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:25 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any News fro Corky? I nominate Mike Cuy to stay at the airport with the Federales while the remainder of us take on the town. CMC ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:29 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Federales Wait a second, Corky---how did I get stuck with that job ? Perhaps there will be a nice female Federale there though and then I'll get to go into town with you guys because Chuck will be busy giving her a Pietenpol ride !!!!! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:10 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Federales Do not archive Mike, your wisdom will prevail but don't drink the water. I wonder how many bottles of water and baby oil Chuck can haul. Senor Corky ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:08 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying south of the border --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Corky wrote- >BTW, since the Sport Pilot deal is in, and one could fly into your country >if >he had permission from that country to enter, might just convince ole Chuck >Gantzer to fly along with me for a friendly south of the border trip if we >were >accorded an invitation. How high are those hills? Those hills are mighty high, but no step for a stepper. I've already been accorded an invitation by Gary Gower and his avia-locos down South and have already discussed the possibility with my instructor Charlie since he has lots of hours flying down there. It's a real possibility for me and 41CC, and I have put it on my own list of 'to do' flights for sometime in the future. I speak Spanish (born and raised on the border), have never been thrown in jail in Mexico nor been arrested there despite having earned the right to have been, enjoy the food and customs, am very comfortable down south, and think it would be lots of fun. PS to "El Taco Loco", Sterling Brooks: they don't drink Corona Light in Mexico. They think it's sissy stuff for yankee gringos, so don't expect to find much of it down there except right on the border where the tourists go. PS to Corky: we're working on magneto issues with 41CC but hope to get it flying this weekend. What's great is that even on the ground and non-flyable with the mags pulled off, the airplane continues to draw attention. One old boy sat in the cockpit and reminisced about old times and you could see the dreams in his eyes. The Piet is sort of magical that way, I guess. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:50 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Federales - bring american dollars --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" bring lots of $5 dollar bills. I used to fly with my dad down to mexico alot when he would take his boss down there. He would bring about $200 in $5 bills. You use the bills to "tip" the customs agents down there. You go through about 7 different people through the process. They do it that way on purpose. First time he went he did not know to bring the bills. It took him and his passengers over 3 hours to pass customs. Then he was told about the bills. Next time he went it took 30 minutes. American Dollar is an amazing thing! ohhh and Mike... about the "cute" federale. Not likely... the female federales I've seen look more like men than the men actually do. DJ do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D Cuy" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Federales > Wait a second, Corky---how did I get stuck with that job ? Perhaps there > will be a nice female Federale there > though and then I'll get to go into town with you guys because Chuck will > be busy giving her a Pietenpol ride !!!!! > > Mike C. > > ---- > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:37 AM PST US From: "Ed Grentzer" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 4130 tubing and AN hardware --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" Wow...I didn't think the guy at Dillsberg's was a jerk...I told him what I needed and got it ASAP..and the prices were better that ACS or Wicks...and he was pretty helpful..Maybe he just has his days like we all do....Do not archive...Ed G. >From: Michael D Cuy >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4130 tubing and AN hardware >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:07:30 -0400 > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > >Even though the guy is a jerk who owns Dillsburg Aero in PA, he has what >you need Sterling and then some. >He ships out in 8 foot (UPS max) lengths. I purchased everything from >them---AN hardware, cables, 4130 sheet, >round, and even my streamlined lift strut material. > >Dillsburg Aero, 717-432-4589. > >Mike C. > > Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:40 AM PST US From: N321TX@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Federales - bring american dollars The Governor of Chihuahua gave me a Get Out Of Jail Card (with his signature on it) a few years ago. I still carry it when heading south of the border. It has come in handy before. But, you can't go wrong with a wad of $5 bills with Bill Clinton's picture on it (ala Xerox). Concerning Oscar's very nasty, malicious, hurtful and mean-spirted comment about Corona being a sissy beer ... when waiters serve us a Corona across the border, we immediately if not sooner toss the lime and while the waiter is still watching, we always add an ounce of used AeroShell to the Corona and take a swig. This impresses the heck out of the local folks and they overlook the fact that we aren't drinking Modleo in a rusty can. You just have to know the ropas when heading south. (Oscar probably beats me in speaking Spanish though... I think he better travel with the rest of us in the lead Border Patrol TACO plane and we should arrange to have Javier in his flight uniform to meet us at the airport, just in case...) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:03 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Federales - bring american dollars --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 9/21/04 9:09:30 AM Central Daylight Time, djv@imagedv.com writes: << ohhh and Mike... about the "cute" federale. Not likely... the female federales I've seen look more like men than the men actually do. DJ do not archive >> Thanks for the heads up, DJ...especially if she looks like that pic that Mike sent. I'll second Corky's nomination, and head into town with the boys !! Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:33 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dillsburg --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Ed-- Charlie Volgelsong runs Dillsburg and sometimes he answers the phone and sometimes his brother or fellow worker does. Depends which Charlie you get. Sometimes you get the mean old Charlie and sometimes you get the nice old Charlie. They do have a great selection, great quality, great shipping times, and they rarely screw up orders. The worst I had was some screws that were back ordered once. Business wise, they are excellent----bedside manners tho are not sometimes their strong suit. I guess he can afford to be crabby once in a while----------guess I would be crabby to if I was still working 12 hour days at 80+ years of age. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:20 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Federales --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 9/21/04 8:32:08 AM Central Daylight Time, Isablcorky@aol.com writes: << Do not archive Mike, your wisdom will prevail but don't drink the water. I wonder how many bottles of water and baby oil Chuck can haul. Senor Corky >> I've already built a larger capacity smoke oil tank, and could carry a 'water bag' like the boys Rinker and Kernahan Buck were supposed to have, in the book 'Flight of Passage'. I wonder how many Five Spots the Federales would charge me to do a Smokin' Pass... Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:55 AM PST US From: "Ed Grentzer" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dillsburg --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" Oh...I only dealt with them twice...Guess I got the right Charlie both times...just got lucky I guess... Do not archive...Ed PS..the Mexico trip sounds like it would be a blast.... >From: Michael D Cuy >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dillsburg >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:59:26 -0400 > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > >Ed-- Charlie Volgelsong runs Dillsburg and sometimes he answers the phone >and sometimes his brother or >fellow worker does. Depends which Charlie you get. Sometimes you get >the mean old Charlie and sometimes you >get the nice old Charlie. > >They do have a great selection, great quality, great shipping times, and >they rarely screw up orders. The worst I had was some >screws that were back ordered once. Business wise, they are >excellent----bedside manners tho are not sometimes their strong suit. > >I guess he can afford to be crabby once in a while----------guess I would >be crabby to if I was still working 12 hour days at 80+ years of age. > >Mike C. > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:05 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any News fro Corky? Good to hear Ivan didnt do any harm in your area, Corky. About flying to Mexico, I e-mailed with Oscar Zuiga about this a few weeks ago... Is very posible, in fact we talked about it in the club. We even made a flight plan all the way from Mc Allen to Guadalajara, avoiding the high airports, there is only one to avoid (7,100 ft ASL). We used Jeppesen FliteStar. We are planning the legs, gasoline available, lodging, etc... This year we have our Aniversary fly in the 30 of October, officialy the party is the 1st of Nov, but we use the closest weekend to make the party, the good thing is that the 2nd of Nov is an oficial no working day, so we can make a long weekend. I offered Oscar that a few of us can fly in our planes to the border or Monterrey to escort the group in the trip. Here are 4 photos of last years Fiesta... We can plan something for 2005, we are also planing a clubs flight to S n F. Well, if there is interest, we can think of it... This year maybe is to close, I dont know what you think... Saludos Gary Gower. --- Isablcorky@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Gary for your kind interest. > My bride and I have not experienced a single raindrop since August. I > planted > some satsuma, lemon, naval oranges and rio red grapefruit trees on > the 4th of > August. Have had two light rains since planting and am hand watering. > They > are beginning to sprout some new growth and blossoms. > Have spent the remainder of the summer on Repiet. Have accomplished > more than > projected. It's on the gear with the centersection almost completed. > Am > building a cutout this time instead of the flop in order to get to > the baggage > compartment in the c/s ala Mike Cuy. It weighs in about 152 lbs with > wheels, > tires, fuel tank, tail wheel, cabanes and c/s and controls. No above > longerons wood > as yet. > BTW, since the Sport Pilot deal is in, and one could fly into your > country if > he had permission from that country to enter, might just convince ole > Chuck > Gantzer to fly along with me for a friendly south of the border trip > if we were > accorded an invitation. How high are those hills? > > Corky and his bride in Louisiana enjoying a most beautiful day > PS My computer took a 3 week break until Sat night.Was full of bugs. > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:10 AM PST US From: "Carl D. Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First Flight Procedure --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" Hi Mike...The article I had in mind was in one of the aviation mags (not SA) it could have been Kitplanes. However the problem has been solved in spades by P. F. Beck who sent me an elaborate article on the subject. Not exactly what I was thinking about, but much better...Thank you..Carl Vought On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:21:37 -0700, Mike Luther wrote : > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mike Luther > > Carl: > > I barely remember the article that you mentioned. Grant's lack of response does > not surprise me. I have a copy of Gary McGill's propeller duplicator manual, if > that would be of any help. You will still need atleast half of a prop to copy. > > Mike L. > > "Carl D. Vought" wrote: > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" > > > > Larry..Best wishes to you and to 444MH. Does 444MH still have the light- and- > > dark wood laminated prop? Some time ago, there was an article on the making > > of that prop written by Grant McLauren. I've emailed Grant, asking if he > > remembers where and/or when it was published...no response. Does anyone out > > there remember the article? can you refer me to the source??? Carl Vought > > > > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT), Larry Nelson > > wrote : > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson > > > > > > > > > Sometime next week, I will be hanging the wings, > > > connecting the controls and installing the fairings in > > > preparation for MY first flight of N444MH, the Howard > > > Henderson Pietenpol. I have been pondering the > > > procedure I will use. This plane was flying up to the > > > time I went to Virginia to trailer it to SW MO. Joe > > > Santana flew it the day he took the wings off for me. > > > > > > Here is my list and I am soliciting advice by posting > > > this. You folks can work on this for about a week and > > > then it is "go" time. > > > > > > Assemble plane. Mount wings, install struts, and > > > fairings. Connect controls. > > > Check oil > > > Check fuel quality and quantity > > > Check coolant > > > Check tire pressures > > > Check controls > > > Start engine and warm up, check guages > > > After warm up, do static power test > > > Do high speed run, tail up, on main gear > > > Cross fingers and take off > > > Gain enough altitude to do some gentle turns > > > Return to pattern for first landing > > > Approach at 55 and do not slow until flare > > > > > > That is all I have come up with. It is different that > > > the checklist I use with my Bonanza . > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Larry Nelson > > > Springfield, MO > > > Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A > > > Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH > > > 1963 GMC 4106-1618 > > > SV/ Spirit of America > > > ARS WB0JOT > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:31 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACOS go south of the border --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower Is one of the urban legends, every place here you can find bottled water, is the change of eating that gives problems, same happens when we visit USA. Is part of traveling. Having fun and looking things with positive eyes will make everyone enjoy vacations. Saludos Gary Gower. --- Michael D Cuy wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > Sterling, Chuck........I'm just a lilly white Yankee, but from what > I've > heard--- don't drink the water:) > > Mike C. > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:31 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any News fro Corky? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower I depends where you stop, Is easy to be in the safe side, we normally make a long trip in the middle november. This year will be all the Pacific coast heading north from here and inside the Gulf de Cortes down the Baja to Cabo San Lucas and back, crossing on Isla Tiburon to main land. We are planning a two week vacation... We always find safety in the airports we visit. In fact we plan with months in advance and get in touch with local flyers in the area, is real fun, lots of good food and fun. Our trips are gettin famous with local flyiers, some just join during the trip. From November to January we normaly find the best climate to travel around here. May to October gets lots of storms and rain. Is like our so long planned trip to Sun And Fun, we will really appreciate some US pilots in the group to help with the radio and some dificult navigation areas... some english in several states is dificult to understand without lots of conversation practice. Saludos Gary Gower. --- Isablcorky@aol.com wrote: > I nominate Mike Cuy to stay at the airport with the Federales while > the > remainder of us take on the town. > CMC > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:20:14 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying south of the border --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower Hello Oscar, Glad you are thinking of visiting, hope some of the TACO members join, here we are working on that, just for the fun of planning the flight. In fact one member of our club, is a retired Corona Dealer, so always there is enough beer in our barbacues. And yes, we can get some "light" Corona, everyone here knows that some Gringos drink that "ladies stuff" :-) :-) We can even go to some side trips to our Pacific Coast, if time, weather and hangovers allow :-) Saludos Gary Gower. --- Oscar Zuniga wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > > > Corky wrote- > > >BTW, since the Sport Pilot deal is in, and one could fly into your > country > >if > >he had permission from that country to enter, might just convince > ole Chuck > >Gantzer to fly along with me for a friendly south of the border trip > if we > >were > >accorded an invitation. How high are those hills? > > Those hills are mighty high, but no step for a stepper. I've already > been > accorded an invitation by Gary Gower and his avia-locos down South > and have > already discussed the possibility with my instructor Charlie since he > has > lots of hours flying down there. It's a real possibility for me and > 41CC, > and I have put it on my own list of 'to do' flights for sometime in > the > future. I speak Spanish (born and raised on the border), have never > been > thrown in jail in Mexico nor been arrested there despite having > earned the > right to have been, enjoy the food and customs, am very comfortable > down > south, and think it would be lots of fun. > > PS to "El Taco Loco", Sterling Brooks: they don't drink Corona Light > in > Mexico. They think it's sissy stuff for yankee gringos, so don't > expect to > find much of it down there except right on the border where the > tourists go. > > PS to Corky: we're working on magneto issues with 41CC but hope to > get it > flying this weekend. What's great is that even on the ground and > non-flyable with the mags pulled off, the airplane continues to draw > attention. One old boy sat in the cockpit and reminisced about old > times > and you could see the dreams in his eyes. The Piet is sort of > magical that > way, I guess. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:09 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Federales - bring american dollars --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower Not everywhere is like that, things are changing, and penalties for ofering and/or recieving money are getting high. Can be done but not that easy. Common sence and law respect is better. Just DONT BRING ANY WAPONS OR FIRE ARMS across the borfer, this is very important and highly penalty. Saludos Gary Gower. Do not Archive. . --- DJ Vegh wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > bring lots of $5 dollar bills. I used to fly with my dad down to > mexico > alot when he would take his boss down there. He would bring about > $200 in > $5 bills. You use the bills to "tip" the customs agents down there. > You go > through about 7 different people through the process. They do it > that way > on purpose. > > First time he went he did not know to bring the bills. It took him > and his > passengers over 3 hours to pass customs. Then he was told about the > bills. > Next time he went it took 30 minutes. American Dollar is an amazing > thing! > > ohhh and Mike... about the "cute" federale. Not likely... the female > federales I've seen look more like men than the men actually do. > > DJ > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael D Cuy" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 6:24 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Federales > > > > Wait a second, Corky---how did I get stuck with that job ? > Perhaps there > > will be a nice female Federale there > > though and then I'll get to go into town with you guys because > Chuck will > > be busy giving her a Pietenpol ride !!!!! > > > > Mike C. > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:20 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Federales - bring american dollars --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower Most of the beers can be find in normal and light... No problem with either of them. I think, if the trip (or several. Why not?) can be planned and done, will be of lots of fun. There are flying clubs almost all over Mexico that gladly will give support. Just keep in touch, there are several clubs all over Veracruz (Gulf Coast) also. Saludos From the Central Pacific side of Mexico. Do not archive. --- N321TX@wmconnect.com wrote: > The Governor of Chihuahua gave me a Get Out Of Jail Card (with his > signature > on it) a few years ago. I still carry it when heading south of the > border. It > has come in handy before. But, you can't go wrong with a wad of $5 > bills with > Bill Clinton's picture on it (ala Xerox). > > Concerning Oscar's very nasty, malicious, hurtful and mean-spirted > comment > about Corona being a sissy beer ... when waiters serve us a Corona > across the > border, we immediately if not sooner toss the lime and while the > waiter is still > watching, we always add an ounce of used AeroShell to the Corona and > take a > swig. This impresses the heck out of the local folks and they > overlook the fact > that we aren't drinking Modleo in a rusty can. You just have to know > the > ropas when heading south. > > (Oscar probably beats me in speaking Spanish though... I think he > better > travel with the rest of us in the lead Border Patrol TACO plane and > we should > arrange to have Javier in his flight uniform to meet us at the > airport, just in > case...) > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:07 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACOS go south of the border --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" Don't drink the water anywhere, remember what W.C, Feilds said about water. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D Cuy" Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACOS go south of the border > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > Sterling, Chuck........I'm just a lilly white Yankee, but from what I've > heard--- don't drink the water:) > > Mike C. > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:44 PM PST US From: Waytogopiet@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Intake manifold Ralph, I had the same concern so had it brazed. Seems to be a good joint...no problems afetr 25 hours running time. Don ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:05 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Finally got NX899JP running this weekend, in anticipation of the inspection by the Feds in the next few days (or weeks). Had an interesting problem with it and wonder if anyone else has had this problem. I had installed brand new Slick magnetos on my Continental A65 a couple of years ago, but this was the first time I had tried to start the engine. The ignition leads were attached as labeled (Slick puts labels on the collars that screw onto the plugs, like "B4" and "T2". The mag timing was set by an A&P/IA friend (who also happens to be the FBO at the airport where I will do my test flying). We tried to start it and wore out 4 men propping it on Saturday. It would hit occasionally, but never more than 2 cylinders at a time. We finally gave up and rolled it back into the hangar. Sunday I tried again, this time pulling the bottom plugs from each cylinder and squirting starting fluid (ether) into each cylinder, then replacing the plugs. It hit once, then I got brave and opened the throttle wide open. The next time it was propped, it caught and ran, very roughly, finally getting up to about 900 RPM. I ran it for about 5 minutes, hoping it would loosen up and run properly. At least the oil pressure was good. Once I shut it down, it became obvious that the front two cylinders were cold. To make a long story short, it turned out that the two front cylinders (number 3 & 4 on a Continental A65) had their ignition timing 180 degrees out of phase with where it should be, i.e., #4 was trying to fire when #3 should be firing. I reversed the leads between those two cylinders and it then ran fine. I barely had enough length to reach on the top plugs, but it does fit and runs normally now. I have not contacted Slick about this yet, but think that I will. I guess we would have caught it earlier, but when we timed it, we were just looking at #1 cylinder and it was timed correctly. Anybody else had a similar problem with Slicks? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:51 PM PST US From: "Ted Brousseau" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Handheld / GPS --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > > > Great to hear the sun is finally shinning in Florida !! > Chuck G. > Chuck, That was yesterday. Today a remenant of Ivan is attacking us. I am online between thunderstorms. Seems a piece of Ivan broke off and made a big circle and came back at us from the east. Then there is Jeanne waiting off shore and then Karl and Lisa... The "real antenna" I tried was a dipole inside the rear fuselage. It is better than the rubber one but still could be improved on. Has anyone successfully installed an antenna inside the plane (so it can't be seen from outside)? Ted ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:00 PM PST US From: Alex Sloan Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: "Last Flight Out" on TV last night --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan Bert, Great message. Waiting for Ivan to pass through. Alex Sloan -----Original Message----- From: Bert Conoly [SMTP:bconoly@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Last Flight Out" on TV last night << File: ATT00001.html >> ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:19 PM PST US From: "Bert Conoly" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Jack. Could it be that you have LH mags instead of RH rotation mags.? That would make sense since the Continental 65 firing order is 1-3-2-4 . Sounds like your Mags are (were) expecting 1-4-2-3. Seems like mine say RH on each one on the data plates. What model slicks are they? If this is a dumb idea, and there's no such thing, there's an imposter on my computer tonight. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Finally got NX899JP running this weekend, in anticipation of the inspection by the Feds in the next few days (or weeks). Had an interesting problem with it and wonder if anyone else has had this problem. I had installed brand new Slick magnetos on my Continental A65 a couple of years ago, but this was the first time I had tried to start the engine. The ignition leads were attached as labeled (Slick puts labels on the collars that screw onto the plugs, like "B4" and "T2". The mag timing was set by an A&P/IA friend (who also happens to be the FBO at the airport where I will do my test flying). We tried to start it and wore out 4 men propping it on Saturday. It would hit occasionally, but never more than 2 cylinders at a time. We finally gave up and rolled it back into the hangar. Sunday I tried again, this time pulling the bottom plugs from each cylinder and squirting starting fluid (ether) into each cylinder, then replacing the plugs. It hit once, then I got brave and opened the throttle wide open. The next time it was propped, it caught and ran, very roughly, finally getting up to about 900 RPM. I ran it for about 5 minutes, hoping it would loosen up and run properly. At least the oil pressure was good. Once I shut it down, it became obvious that the front two cylinders were cold. To make a long story short, it turned out that the two front cylinders (number 3 & 4 on a Continental A65) had their ignition timing 180 degrees out of phase with where it should be, i.e., #4 was trying to fire when #3 should be firing. I reversed the leads between those two cylinders and it then ran fine. I barely had enough length to reach on the top plugs, but it does fit and runs normally now. I have not contacted Slick about this yet, but think that I will. I guess we would have caught it earlier, but when we timed it, we were just looking at #1 cylinder and it was timed correctly. Anybody else had a similar problem with Slicks? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:51 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos I had brand new slicks put on my A-65. No problems. I had it set up by an A&I , it's run great. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Finally got NX899JP running this weekend, in anticipation of the inspection by the Feds in the next few days (or weeks). Had an interesting problem with it and wonder if anyone else has had this problem. I had installed brand new Slick magnetos on my Continental A65 a couple of years ago, but this was the first time I had tried to start the engine. The ignition leads were attached as labeled (Slick puts labels on the collars that screw onto the plugs, like "B4" and "T2". The mag timing was set by an A&P/IA friend (who also happens to be the FBO at the airport where I will do my test flying). We tried to start it and wore out 4 men propping it on Saturday. It would hit occasionally, but never more than 2 cylinders at a time. We finally gave up and rolled it back into the hangar. Sunday I tried again, this time pulling the bottom plugs from each cylinder and squirting starting fluid (ether) into each cylinder, then replacing the plugs. It hit once, then I got brave and opened the throttle wide open. The next time it was propped, it caught and ran, very roughly, finally getting up to about 900 RPM. I ran it for about 5 minutes, hoping it would loosen up and run properly. At least the oil pressure was good. Once I shut it down, it became obvious that the front two cylinders were cold. To make a long story short, it turned out that the two front cylinders (number 3 & 4 on a Continental A65) had their ignition timing 180 degrees out of phase with where it should be, i.e., #4 was trying to fire when #3 should be firing. I reversed the leads between those two cylinders and it then ran fine. I barely had enough length to reach on the top plugs, but it does fit and runs normally now. I have not contacted Slick about this yet, but think that I will. I guess we would have caught it earlier, but when we timed it, we were just looking at #1 cylinder and it was timed correctly. Anybody else had a similar problem with Slicks? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:13 PM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos The last Slick mags I put on an O-320 had the 180 degree opposed holes for setting either left or right rotation. Sounds to me like one of the mags was "pinned" for the correct R rotation and the other was pinned with L. They both have to be pinned for right rotation, then inserted into gear, then jointly timed. Maybe someone made a mistake. Did the AP actually insert the mags in the holes, or just do the timing? Gordon Bowen ----- Original Message ----- From: Bert Conoly To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Jack. Could it be that you have LH mags instead of RH rotation mags.? That would make sense since the Continental 65 firing order is 1-3-2-4 . Sounds like your Mags are (were) expecting 1-4-2-3. Seems like mine say RH on each one on the data plates. What model slicks are they? If this is a dumb idea, and there's no such thing, there's an imposter on my computer tonight. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Finally got NX899JP running this weekend, in anticipation of the inspection by the Feds in the next few days (or weeks). Had an interesting problem with it and wonder if anyone else has had this problem. I had installed brand new Slick magnetos on my Continental A65 a couple of years ago, but this was the first time I had tried to start the engine. The ignition leads were attached as labeled (Slick puts labels on the collars that screw onto the plugs, like "B4" and "T2". The mag timing was set by an A&P/IA friend (who also happens to be the FBO at the airport where I will do my test flying). We tried to start it and wore out 4 men propping it on Saturday. It would hit occasionally, but never more than 2 cylinders at a time. We finally gave up and rolled it back into the hangar. Sunday I tried again, this time pulling the bottom plugs from each cylinder and squirting starting fluid (ether) into each cylinder, then replacing the plugs. It hit once, then I got brave and opened the throttle wide open. The next time it was propped, it caught and ran, very roughly, finally getting up to about 900 RPM. I ran it for about 5 minutes, hoping it would loosen up and run properly. At least the oil pressure was good. Once I shut it down, it became obvious that the front two cylinders were cold. To make a long story short, it turned out that the two front cylinders (number 3 & 4 on a Continental A65) had their ignition timing 180 degrees out of phase with where it should be, i.e., #4 was trying to fire when #3 should be firing. I reversed the leads between those two cylinders and it then ran fine. I barely had enough length to reach on the top plugs, but it does fit and runs normally now. I have not contacted Slick about this yet, but think that I will. I guess we would have caught it earlier, but when we timed it, we were just looking at #1 cylinder and it was timed correctly. Anybody else had a similar problem with Slicks? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC