---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/22/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:06 AM - Re: Slick Magnetos (Jack Phillips) 2. 10:57 AM - wonder what engine he is using ? (Michael D Cuy) 3. 01:59 PM - Re: Slick Magnetos (Carl D. Vought) 4. 08:46 PM - not piet related but good flying humor (tmbrant1@netzero.net) 5. 09:25 PM - Re: not piet related but good flying humor (Richard Navratil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:27 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos The A&P installed the mags, and set the timing. I don't remember the model numbers, but I'm heading to the airport to work on the plane (took the day off) and I'll see what they are. Whem I ordered them directly from Slick, I told them that they were going on a Continental A65. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gordon Bowen Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos The last Slick mags I put on an O-320 had the 180 degree opposed holes for setting either left or right rotation. Sounds to me like one of the mags was "pinned" for the correct R rotation and the other was pinned with L. They both have to be pinned for right rotation, then inserted into gear, then jointly timed. Maybe someone made a mistake. Did the AP actually insert the mags in the holes, or just do the timing? Gordon Bowen ----- Original Message ----- From: Bert Conoly Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Jack. Could it be that you have LH mags instead of RH rotation mags.? That would make sense since the Continental 65 firing order is 1-3-2-4 . Sounds like your Mags are (were) expecting 1-4-2-3. Seems like mine say RH on each one on the data plates. What model slicks are they? If this is a dumb idea, and there's no such thing, there's an imposter on my computer tonight. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos Finally got NX899JP running this weekend, in anticipation of the inspection by the Feds in the next few days (or weeks). Had an interesting problem with it and wonder if anyone else has had this problem. I had installed brand new Slick magnetos on my Continental A65 a couple of years ago, but this was the first time I had tried to start the engine. The ignition leads were attached as labeled (Slick puts labels on the collars that screw onto the plugs, like "B4" and "T2". The mag timing was set by an A&P/IA friend (who also happens to be the FBO at the airport where I will do my test flying). We tried to start it and wore out 4 men propping it on Saturday. It would hit occasionally, but never more than 2 cylinders at a time. We finally gave up and rolled it back into the hangar. Sunday I tried again, this time pulling the bottom plugs from each cylinder and squirting starting fluid (ether) into each cylinder, then replacing the plugs. It hit once, then I got brave and opened the throttle wide open. The next time it was propped, it caught and ran, very roughly, finally getting up to about 900 RPM. I ran it for about 5 minutes, hoping it would loosen up and run properly. At least the oil pressure was good. Once I shut it down, it became obvious that the front two cylinders were cold. To make a long story short, it turned out that the two front cylinders (number 3 & 4 on a Continental A65) had their ignition timing 180 degrees out of phase with where it should be, i.e., #4 was trying to fire when #3 should be firing. I reversed the leads between those two cylinders and it then ran fine. I barely had enough length to reach on the top plugs, but it does fit and runs normally now. I have not contacted Slick about this yet, but think that I will. I guess we would have caught it earlier, but when we timed it, we were just looking at #1 cylinder and it was timed correctly. Anybody else had a similar problem with Slicks? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:57:15 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: wonder what engine he is using ? <000f01c4a04c$e90d5420$6601a8c0@Nancy> Guys-- I wonder if whatever engine this guy was using in his motorcycle could be adapted to the Pietenpol airframe ? from CNN: A motorcyclist in Minnesota has been arrested for speeding -- while allegedly going faster than 200 mph. The speed limit was 65 mph on U.S. Highway 61 near Wabasha. Police said Samuel Tilley was breaking that limit by 140 mph. They said a state patrol pilot who was flying overhead clocked Tilley doing 205 miles an hour while racing with another motorcyclist. Pilot Al Loney said the bike was traveling nearly twice as fast as his plane. He radioed ahead to another state trooper, who pulled the two cyclists over. Only the faster one was arrested. Tilley is charged with reckless driving and driving without a motorcycle license -- in addition to the speeding charge. Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:08 PM PST US From: "Carl D. Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Slick Magnetos --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl D. Vought" Jack....Please say Hi to Bill Beerman and to Jeff Ortel (my son-in-law) Carl Vought/ Huntsville, AL On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:21:35 -0400, "Jack Phillips" wrote : > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" > > > > Finally got NX899JP running this weekend, in anticipation of the inspection > by the Feds in the next few days (or weeks). Had an interesting problem > with it and wonder if anyone else has had this problem. > > I had installed brand new Slick magnetos on my Continental A65 a couple of > years ago, but this was the first time I had tried to start the engine. The > ignition leads were attached as labeled (Slick puts labels on the collars > that screw onto the plugs, like "B4" and "T2". The mag timing was set by an > A&P/IA friend (who also happens to be the FBO at the airport where I will do > my test flying). > > We tried to start it and wore out 4 men propping it on Saturday. It would > hit occasionally, but never more than 2 cylinders at a time. We finally > gave up and rolled it back into the hangar. > > Sunday I tried again, this time pulling the bottom plugs from each cylinder > and squirting starting fluid (ether) into each cylinder, then replacing the > plugs. It hit once, then I got brave and opened the throttle wide open. > The next time it was propped, it caught and ran, very roughly, finally > getting up to about 900 RPM. I ran it for about 5 minutes, hoping it would > loosen up and run properly. At least the oil pressure was good. > > Once I shut it down, it became obvious that the front two cylinders were > cold. To make a long story short, it turned out that the two front > cylinders (number 3 & 4 on a Continental A65) had their ignition timing 180 > degrees out of phase with where it should be, i.e., #4 was trying to fire > when #3 should be firing. I reversed the leads between those two cylinders > and it then ran fine. I barely had enough length to reach on the top plugs, > but it does fit and runs normally now. I have not contacted Slick about > this yet, but think that I will. I guess we would have caught it earlier, > but when we timed it, we were just looking at #1 cylinder and it was timed > correctly. > > Anybody else had a similar problem with Slicks? > > Jack Phillips > Raleigh, NC > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:15 PM PST US From: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" Subject: Pietenpol-List: not piet related but good flying humor --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" This last Saturday it was a beautiful day for flying. I took a buddy of mine from Crystal to pick up his daughter in Hutchinson. On the return trip we decided it would be fun to land at a grass field so we diverted to Winsted. We got out, walked around, read the bulletin board, the usual... Then got in thhe plane, taxied out onto grass and started the runup. After I completed the runup, I announced "Winsted traffic, Cessna 1724Y taking off, runway niner". In order to turn around and face the proper direction, I noticed it was taking full power. We've had a few days of heavy rain so I thought the field must be really soft. I got headed in the right direction and again went to full power but this time, I noticed the plane sliding to the left at about a 20 degree angle, with full right pedal!. I'm thinking "What is wrong with this thing - do I have a flat nosewheel or something?!!" So after I slid away from the centerline of the runway, I stopped and looked around the cockpit - low and behold I forgot to release the parking brake. Stupid, stupid stupid. I released and off we went. I sure would love to have been watching the plane from the outside as It went to full power and kept sliding around aimlessly. Bet the old guys in the hangar were getting a chuckle. Do not archive Tom B. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:27 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: not piet related but good flying humor --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" Tom Put a number of us in a circle with a couple beers each and you might be suprised at what some might admit. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: not piet related but good flying humor > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.net" > > > This last Saturday it was a beautiful day for flying. I took a buddy of mine from Crystal to pick up his daughter in Hutchinson. On the return trip we decided it would be fun to land at a grass field so we diverted to Winsted. We got out, walked around, read the bulletin board, the usual... Then got in thhe plane, taxied out onto grass and started the runup. After I completed the runup, I announced "Winsted traffic, Cessna 1724Y taking off, runway niner". In order to turn around and face the proper direction, I noticed it was taking full power. We've had a few days of heavy rain so I thought the field must be really soft. I got headed in the right direction and again went to full power but this time, I noticed the plane sliding to the left at about a 20 degree angle, with full right pedal!. I'm thinking "What is wrong with this thing - do I have a flat nosewheel or something?!!" So after I slid away from the centerline of the runway, I stopped and looked around the > cockpit - low and behold I forgot to release the parking brake. Stupid, stupid stupid. I released and off we went. I sure would love to have been watching the plane from the outside as It went to full power and kept sliding around aimlessly. Bet the old guys in the hangar were getting a chuckle. > > > Do not archive > Tom B. > >