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1. 12:31 AM - Re: Starting the Model A (Galen Hutcheson)
2. 02:47 AM - Re: ELT Requirement (Jack Phillips)
3. 04:37 AM - Re: ELT Requirement (Michael D Cuy)
4. 05:46 AM - Re: ELT Requirement (Isablcorky@aol.com)
5. 06:37 AM - Air Camper's response to Nigerian Spam (Pilots4ETW@wmconnect.com)
6. 08:01 AM - TACO Gathering (Michael D Cuy)
7. 09:40 AM - Re: Mexico Trip (Gary Gower)
8. 11:37 AM - Re: Starting the Model A (Larry Nelson)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: Trip to "High Land" was ELT Requirement. (Gary Gower)
10. 02:01 PM - Re: Starting the Model A (Waytogopiet@aol.com)
11. 02:44 PM - Re: Starting the Model A (Ed Grentzer)
12. 05:26 PM - Propellars (Alex Sloan)
13. 05:45 PM - Re: Propellars (Peter W Johnson)
14. 05:51 PM - Re: Starting the Model A (Galen Hutcheson)
15. 05:56 PM - Re: Starting the Model A (Chet's Mail)
16. 06:00 PM - Re: Propellars (Alex Sloan)
17. 06:04 PM - Starting the Model A (Galen Hutcheson)
18. 08:11 PM - Re: ELT Requirement (Greg Bacon)
19. 08:17 PM - Re: Propellars (Greg Bacon)
20. 08:48 PM - Re: ELT Requirement ()
21. 09:00 PM - Re: Propellars (DJ Vegh)
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| Subject: | Re: Starting the Model A |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Larry, Doc Hutcheson again. I live about 70 miles
south of you in Harrison, AR. I would like to come up
and see your Piet sometime if it would be ok with you.
I am building a Piet now and it would be helpful to
get a look at yours. Thanks
Doc
--- Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson
> <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
>
>
> We unloaded the Henderson Pietenpol today at it's
> new
> home, the Flying Bar H airport, which is just east
> of
> Springfield, MO. We rigged her, watered her, and
> weighed her (637# w/ water and 1 gallon of fuel).
>
> My buddy, Wes Scott, a Model A kind of guy (he has
> two
> at his farm and 13 engines) says the Model A needs a
> choke to start. When I asked Joe Santana, the
> previous
> owner, about this, told me he used ether to start
> the
> Model A. I think it was him that indicated that
> Howard
> may have also used ether.
>
> So, with the choke wired open, what is the consensus
> of preparation, and starting of the Model A Ford
> engine in this application.
>
> BTW, I fueled her with 87 octane car gas. Too cheap
> for my own good? She sure sounded good. If it
> weren't
> for squirrely winds above 12 knots at 90 degrees to
> the strip, I would lifted her off from the high
> speed
> taxi runs I was making.
>
> Comments and criticisms are welcome.
>
> =====
> Larry Nelson
> Springfield, MO
> Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
> Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
> 1963 GMC 4106-1618
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I installed one. The FAA is supposed to call me Monday to say when they
will be out to inspect my Piet. I'm curious to see if he asks about it.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
gcardinal@mn.rr.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Requirement
Guys,
Who has or has not installed an ELT? It appears that it is required by the
regs but I don't hear much on the list.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Greg-- I did not install an ELT and my inspector never asked so there still
is no ELT in there. I would carry one if going
over mountains or water, but neither of those events will ever happen on my
watch.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Requirement |
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Mike, you blue bellied Yankee
How in H--l are you going with the TACOS to Guad without going over high
hills? I mentioned this proposed trip to Isabelle casually and before I finished
the statement I heard, loud and very clear, "YOU'RE NOT GOING". End of
adventure for ole Cork. She thinks I'm too old so I'll have to accept her judgement
but she didn't say no to Brodhead next year. She even contacted her neice in
Mattoon to alert her that she might have an overnight guest.
CMC
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| Subject: | Air Camper's response to Nigerian Spam |
I get tons of spam from "wealthy" Nigerians in desperate need of hiding money
in American bank accounts. So, I flood the Nigerian e-mail address with this
response, from one of my accounts that will not accept any mail. If you are
flooded with Nigerian spam too, maybe we can lock up all the ISPs in Africa by
sending bogus mail back to these bozos. Below is the response I am sending.
Dear Mr. (Name of Nigerian scam artist here__________),
I am Piet Wannabe, a U.S. citizen by nationality. Presently, I reside in the
Southern United States.
My uncle Piet Wasabuilder, was the president of a large U.S. Airline. When
the airline industry began to decline several years ago, politcal leaders in
this nation contributed $200 million in cash, to keep my uncle's airline in
business. Uncle Wasabuilder stashed the money in a secret location in the desert
southwest in order to keep the funds protected.
Unfortunately, my Uncle succumbed to a propellor accident when a mute aviator
started an airplane engine on a dark and foggy night. The mute aviator was
not able to shout "clear prop" when starting the engine and Uncle Wasabuilder
walked into the propellor as the engine was cranking. And since it was dark and
foggy, my uncle was not able to see and read the sign language when the mute
aviator indicated with his hands, as he was waving sign language in the
windscreen "clear prop."
I am very confident that my deceased uncle buried his $200 million somewhere
between El Paso, Texas and Las Vegas, Nevada -- in a dust-proof and
water-tight lock box. Uncle Wasabuilder frequently took me on many flying adventures
in
an airplane he built, when I was a young boy. We frequently flew across the
desert from El Paso to Las Vegas and uncle often remarked, "If I had a million
dollars I wanted to hide, I'd bury it out here under 5 feet of sand." Although
I was too small at the time to effectively see out of the window where uncle
was referencing on the earth below, I think I have a good idea where his secret
hiding place might be and I am extraordinarily confident that uncle buried
the $200 million the government gave him recently.
I seek your help in finding this money and I intend to make you a beneficiary
of $150 million when I locate the funds. I only wish to keep a small amount
of the money for sentimental reasons. And I'd like to have some cash reserves
that would allow me to purchase all the parts and materials to complete a
Pietenpol experimental aircraft, having a turbine engine, storm scope, IFR-GPS
and
some other modest instruments and equipment. I'll build this airplane only so
I can retrace the flying adventures Uncle Wasabuilder took me on, between El
Paso and Las Vegas many years ago.
Oh, how I miss my dear uncle.
You can help me in my quest by providing a new Hummer that would allow me to
explore the desert between El Paso and Las Vegas. Since there are no hotels in
the area I plan to travel, I ask that you also provide a highly modified
Airstream travel trailer to be towed by the Hummer. The Airstream trailer needs
to
be fitted with a flat and reinforced roof, having a surface area 36 feet long
by 8 feet wide. This will be suitable for landing a small Bell Jet Ranger
that I ask you to provide. The helicopter is needed in order to search the desert
as I drive the Hummer between El Paso and Las Vegas. As you know, the Hummer
can go almost anywhere, but the Jet Ranger will be a great asset when
searching vast areas around canyons and mountains.
As soon as I receive your indication to assist me, I will inform you with the
necessary modalities of how to proceed. Until then, in order to verify that
you are in a position to provide the above mentioned tools for the search of
the vast and open desert, please submit your bank account numbers as well as the
account numbers to any and all credit cards you have. I am embarrassed to
even ask that you submit this information, but let me assure you, this is simply
a formality. The exchange of this information will help us develop trust in
each other and establish credibility in regard to your ability to help in this
rewarding endeavor. Also please provide the name of your first born child and
your mother's maiden name.
Kindest Regards and may God Bless You.
Mr. Piet Wannabe, Esq.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Corky-- how am I going to meet up with you guys without going over
mountains in my Air Camper ?
Continental. I'll see you in my layover in Louisiana. Nothing says we
can't go into town with the boys just
because we didn't bring our Pietenpols.
I've gotta see Jim Sury and Gary Meadows on the way anyway and they have
Pietenpol and a project so that might count.
Mike
do not archive
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hello Mike,
We are working (having some fun) planning this trip, even if it never
gets done, but if we plan together and all the planes are checked (no
service pending) before the trip we can help with places (FBO's) on the
route where to have oil changes and minor mantainace in case strictly
needed.
On the other side we have also 2 18" trailers and our clubs crew, in
case of any incident that needs the plane to be towed (knock wood),
the idea is to get this first flight as free of problems as possible,
I understand the normal feeling of flying in a foreign country, same
has happened with local pilots that have flown to OSH or S & F,
Happyly there are helped (when needed) by the chapters and clubs and
all of them have returned with a big smile and ready for the next
one...
I am sure a year (or at least 6 months, around May) will be enough time
to plan something. For this October 30 is a little tight, What you
think?. Climate in November is the best in this area.
Here in the Pacific Coast side we have Puerto Vallarta, Manzanillo,
Mazatlan, Etc... and the group can return to Texas flying the border
bach from about Arizona... This depends on how long and how many days
the group decides.
In a first trip there are always things that happen at last moment,
but will be part of the fun, having a positive attitude.
I know it will be a LOTS of work for everybody, sometimes frustrating
but is great. When I was young (about 30 years ago) I worked during
school vacations as "scout" in some trailer caravans that traveled
here. So I remember the adventures, at the end most were very happy.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
--- Mike King <mike@mking.us> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike King" <mike@mking.us>
>
> TACO Benders,
>
> Any idea of when this historic international trip would take
> place?
> I grew up in South Texas and am familiar with the culture.....
> this would be a great trip barring any mechanical / part failure.
>
> Gracias,
>
> Miguel Rey (Mike King)
> GN-1
> 77MK
> Dallas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Ed Grentzer
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:13 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Dillsburg
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer"
> <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>
> Oh...I only dealt with them twice...Guess I got the right Charlie
> both
> times...just got lucky I guess...
> Do not archive...Ed PS..the Mexico trip sounds like it would
> be a
> blast....
>
>
> >From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dillsburg
> >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:59:26 -0400
> >
> >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> ><Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> >
> >Ed-- Charlie Volgelsong runs Dillsburg and sometimes he answers
> the phone
> >and sometimes his brother or
> >fellow worker does. Depends which Charlie you get. Sometimes
> you get
> >the mean old Charlie and sometimes you
> >get the nice old Charlie.
> >
> >They do have a great selection, great quality, great shipping
> times, and
> >they rarely screw up orders. The worst I had was some
> >screws that were back ordered once. Business wise, they are
> >excellent----bedside manners tho are not sometimes their strong
> suit.
> >
> >I guess he can afford to be crabby once in a
> while----------guess I would
> >be crabby to if I was still working 12 hour days at 80+ years of
> age.
> >
> >Mike C.
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Starting the Model A |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
Galen, here is my phone number. The next two weeks are
going to be taken up with work stuff, but after that,
it looks good.
417 882 8122
--- Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Larry, Doc Hutcheson again. I live about 70 miles
> south of you in Harrison, AR. I would like to come
> up
> and see your Piet sometime if it would be ok with
> you.
> I am building a Piet now and it would be helpful to
> get a look at yours. Thanks
> Doc
> --- Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson
> > <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> > We unloaded the Henderson Pietenpol today at it's
> > new
> > home, the Flying Bar H airport, which is just east
> > of
> > Springfield, MO. We rigged her, watered her, and
> > weighed her (637# w/ water and 1 gallon of fuel).
> >
> > My buddy, Wes Scott, a Model A kind of guy (he has
> > two
> > at his farm and 13 engines) says the Model A needs
> a
> > choke to start. When I asked Joe Santana, the
> > previous
> > owner, about this, told me he used ether to start
> > the
> > Model A. I think it was him that indicated that
> > Howard
> > may have also used ether.
> >
> > So, with the choke wired open, what is the
> consensus
> > of preparation, and starting of the Model A Ford
> > engine in this application.
> >
> > BTW, I fueled her with 87 octane car gas. Too
> cheap
> > for my own good? She sure sounded good. If it
> > weren't
> > for squirrely winds above 12 knots at 90 degrees
> to
> > the strip, I would lifted her off from the high
> > speed
> > taxi runs I was making.
> >
> > Comments and criticisms are welcome.
> >
> > =====
> > Larry Nelson
> > Springfield, MO
> > Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
> > Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
> > 1963 GMC 4106-1618
> > SV/ Spirit of America
> > ARS WB0JOT
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Springfield, MO
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Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
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SV/ Spirit of America
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to "High Land" was ELT Requirement. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hello Corky,
That is the important part of planning (were we will all need advice
from experts in flyin Piets), there are always valleys and pass (sp?)
but yes, some airports here are about 5,000 ft asl, but have long
strips (for airliners) so with patience you can get to 6 or 7,000 to
pass, once on the other side is "normal" 3,000 and down to sea level.
I know this is only an idea, here we have bigger engines in all our
planes, but experts say that with little patience and not to heavy
loaded they can handle the trip... There will be always a turn around
(about half of the trip) in the safe side, in San Luis Potosi, before
getting to "high lands".
Also maybe a few can get together and fly comercial, here can rent a
minivan and share expenses and sight see.... Will be great to have Mrs
Isabelle also here, she will have a great time, lots of places to
visit.
Very important, this is a non profit idea, the most complicated, the
more risk to spend money not thought, but is part of the "party costs",
and having a good time with friends.
If there are any group costs (sight seeing, meals in restaurant, etc),
they could be covered by each member of the group...
Hope the idea (IF it ever gets done) will not get to big and/or out of
hand, it beguined with planning the trip thinking in the engine (65HP)
in Oscar Zuniga's Piet...
So Corky, I think you (and your Bride Isabelle) deserve to be part of
the idea...
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Piet Wagonmaster :-)
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--- Isablcorky@aol.com wrote:
> Do not archive
> Mike, you blue bellied Yankee
> How in H--l are you going with the TACOS to Guad without going over
> high
> hills? I mentioned this proposed trip to Isabelle casually and before
> I finished
> the statement I heard, loud and very clear, "YOU'RE NOT GOING". End
> of
> adventure for ole Cork. She thinks I'm too old so I'll have to accept
> her judgement
> but she didn't say no to Brodhead next year. She even contacted her
> neice in
> Mattoon to alert her that she might have an overnight guest.
> CMC
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Starting the Model A |
Larry, After the usual break-in problems were solved, we found that a half
turn on the gas adjustment valve, about four turns on the prop (with the
switch off), one shot of starting fluid in the carb heat inlet.....contact and
it
usually starts her on the first pull. Don
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| Subject: | Re: Starting the Model A |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Grentzer" <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
Be very careful with starting fluid...The ether in starting fluid is a
solvent that removes the very thin oil film from the cylinders which
evaporates quickly with the ether. Since the job of the oil rings is to
limit the amount of oil which reaches the cylinders and combustion chambers
it can take quite a few revolutions before the oil film is
reestablished..the compression rings will run without lubrication during
this period of time...I've also seen engines with the ringlands blown off
the pistons from useing heavy shots of either in hot weather...I worked as a
mechanic in a tractor shop for six years and several times heard guys say
their tractor engine got hooked on starting fluid. Fact was it just didn't
have enough compression to start without it because it ruined the rings...Go
very easy with it. Of course you probably know this already but just in
case.......Don't want anyone hurting their Piet engines..Ed
>From: Waytogopiet@aol.com
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Starting the Model A
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:00:25 EDT
>
>Larry, After the usual break-in problems were solved, we found that a
>half
>turn on the gas adjustment valve, about four turns on the prop (with the
>switch off), one shot of starting fluid in the carb heat inlet.....contact
>and it
>usually starts her on the first pull. Don
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
Friends,
I am ready to mount my 95 H.P. Corvair engine on the test stand I built to
Pat Panzera's specs. Question is, what size and pitch prop is recommended.
I cannot find what prop Mr. Pietenpol used on his Corvair powered
Pietenpol. I recall reading he wished he had a different pitch. Does
anyone recall what he used? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for the assistance.
Alex Sloan
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
Alex,
According to "How I Make Wood Propellers" by Al Schubert, the prop was 63
inch diameter by 35 inch pitch at the tips. Al made two props for Bernie's
Corvair powered Piet.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi, Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alex Sloan
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
Friends,
I am ready to mount my 95 H.P. Corvair engine on the test stand I built to
Pat Panzera's specs. Question is, what size and pitch prop is recommended.
I cannot find what prop Mr. Pietenpol used on his Corvair powered
Pietenpol. I recall reading he wished he had a different pitch. Does
anyone recall what he used? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for the assistance.
Alex Sloan
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Thanks Larry, I'm looking forward to seeing your
plane. Zip me an email when it is good for me to come
up. I got an email from Ken Perkins about the Model A
engines. Hope we can work something out. I hope to
mount the engine sometime this winter. Doc
--- Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson
> <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
>
> Galen, here is my phone number. The next two weeks
> are
> going to be taken up with work stuff, but after
> that,
> it looks good.
>
> 417 882 8122
>
>
>
>
> --- Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> > Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Larry, Doc Hutcheson again. I live about 70 miles
> > south of you in Harrison, AR. I would like to
> come
> > up
> > and see your Piet sometime if it would be ok with
> > you.
> > I am building a Piet now and it would be helpful
> to
> > get a look at yours. Thanks
> > Doc
> > --- Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry
> Nelson
> > > <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > We unloaded the Henderson Pietenpol today at
> it's
> > > new
> > > home, the Flying Bar H airport, which is just
> east
> > > of
> > > Springfield, MO. We rigged her, watered her, and
> > > weighed her (637# w/ water and 1 gallon of
> fuel).
> > >
> > > My buddy, Wes Scott, a Model A kind of guy (he
> has
> > > two
> > > at his farm and 13 engines) says the Model A
> needs
> > a
> > > choke to start. When I asked Joe Santana, the
> > > previous
> > > owner, about this, told me he used ether to
> start
> > > the
> > > Model A. I think it was him that indicated that
> > > Howard
> > > may have also used ether.
> > >
> > > So, with the choke wired open, what is the
> > consensus
> > > of preparation, and starting of the Model A Ford
> > > engine in this application.
> > >
> > > BTW, I fueled her with 87 octane car gas. Too
> > cheap
> > > for my own good? She sure sounded good. If it
> > > weren't
> > > for squirrely winds above 12 knots at 90 degrees
> > to
> > > the strip, I would lifted her off from the high
> > > speed
> > > taxi runs I was making.
> > >
> > > Comments and criticisms are welcome.
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Larry Nelson
> > > Springfield, MO
> > > Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
> > > Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
Yes we do know Gabe and his cub I've tryed to buy it but he keeps saying no.
I meet Wess a few months back but have not seen him for a couple of months.
Glad to here he has so many engines, this might be a answer to one of my up
and coming problems.
One of our club members today made reference to you flying the Cub. What a
neat airplane.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
Thanks Peter,
That is what I needed to know.
Alex Sloan
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter W Johnson [SMTP:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
Alex,
According to "How I Make Wood Propellers" by Al Schubert, the prop was 63
inch diameter by 35 inch pitch at the tips. Al made two props for Bernie's
Corvair powered Piet.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi, Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alex Sloan
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
Friends,
I am ready to mount my 95 H.P. Corvair engine on the test stand I built to
Pat Panzera's specs. Question is, what size and pitch prop is recommended.
I cannot find what prop Mr. Pietenpol used on his Corvair powered
Pietenpol. I recall reading he wished he had a different pitch. Does
anyone recall what he used? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for the assistance.
Alex Sloan
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
I don't know if this will help or not since I have
never had much to do with Model A engines before, but
I have had a lot of experience with Kinner radials
which too are low compression engines. In fact, I
think that the Kinner and Model A have a lot in
common. The Kinners were hard to start sometimes.
What worked (as well as did the ether) was to pour
about a table spoon full of gasoline into the top
cylinder (or better top three cylinders) then pull the
prop through three or four times before turning on the
mags. I was using plain old 87 octane auto fuel with
Marvel Mystery Oil mixed in. Does anyone with Model A
Piets use Mystery Oil in their gas? It sure extends
the TBO of old radials. The low compression of the
engines (especially on colder days) doesn't pull the
fuel up into the cylinders very well. When the rings
heat up and expand, they do a better job of pulling
the fuel up. I have been known to apply a butane
torch to the cylinders on cold days to heat up the
rings to make them start better. Doc
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Requirement |
Greg,
My Corben Jr. Ace didn't have one and it passed two annual inspections with no
questions about an ELT. Are you sure it's required for homebuilts? Is it a
new requirement?
Greg Bacon
Missouri
----- Original Message -----
From: gcardinal@mn.rr.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Requirement
Guys,
Who has or has not installed an ELT? It appears that it is required by the regs
but I don't hear much on the list.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Greg Bacon <gbacon67@direcway.com>
Alex,
You may want to check on this, but I think Bernie's Corvair was a 70HP.
Your 95HP engine might perform a little better with more pitch. William
Wynne will know. www.flycorvair.com
Greg Bacon
Missouri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
>
> Thanks Peter,
> That is what I needed to know.
> Alex Sloan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter W Johnson [SMTP:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au]
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 6:46 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Peter W Johnson"
<vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
> Alex,
>
> According to "How I Make Wood Propellers" by Al Schubert, the prop was 63
> inch diameter by 35 inch pitch at the tips. Al made two props for Bernie's
> Corvair powered Piet.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi, Australia
> http://www.cpc-world.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alex Sloan
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:26 AM
> To: 'Pietenpol-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
>
> Friends,
> I am ready to mount my 95 H.P. Corvair engine on the test stand I built to
> Pat Panzera's specs. Question is, what size and pitch prop is
recommended.
> I cannot find what prop Mr. Pietenpol used on his Corvair powered
> Pietenpol. I recall reading he wished he had a different pitch. Does
> anyone recall what he used? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> Thanks for the assistance.
> Alex Sloan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Requirement |
It appears to be required but a lot of people do without. It doesn't seem to be
rigidly enforced.
P.S. Turned in the paperwork to the local MIDO office requesting the final inspection.
I hope the good weather holds out through October.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Bacon
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ELT Requirement
Greg,
My Corben Jr. Ace didn't have one and it passed two annual inspections with no
questions about an ELT. Are you sure it's required for homebuilts? Is it
a new requirement?
Greg Bacon
Missouri
----- Original Message -----
From: gcardinal@mn.rr.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Requirement
Guys,
Who has or has not installed an ELT? It appears that it is required by the
regs but I don't hear much on the list.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
I'm using a 66x29. If I was to do it over I'd go with a 64X32 but I'm sure
my 66x29 will suffice... my engine is a '65 110 with OT-10 cam.
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Bacon" <gbacon67@direcway.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Greg Bacon <gbacon67@direcway.com>
>
> Alex,
>
> You may want to check on this, but I think Bernie's Corvair was a 70HP.
> Your 95HP engine might perform a little better with more pitch. William
> Wynne will know. www.flycorvair.com
>
> Greg Bacon
> Missouri
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@comcast.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:00 PM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
> >
> > Thanks Peter,
> > That is what I needed to know.
> > Alex Sloan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter W Johnson [SMTP:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au]
> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 6:46 PM
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
> >
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Peter W Johnson"
> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > According to "How I Make Wood Propellers" by Al Schubert, the prop was
63
> > inch diameter by 35 inch pitch at the tips. Al made two props for
Bernie's
> > Corvair powered Piet.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Peter
> > Wonthaggi, Australia
> > http://www.cpc-world.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Sloan
> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:26 AM
> > To: 'Pietenpol-list@matronics.com'
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Propellars
> >
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Alex Sloan <alexms1@comcast.net>
> >
> > Friends,
> > I am ready to mount my 95 H.P. Corvair engine on the test stand I built
to
> > Pat Panzera's specs. Question is, what size and pitch prop is
> recommended.
> > I cannot find what prop Mr. Pietenpol used on his Corvair powered
> > Pietenpol. I recall reading he wished he had a different pitch. Does
> > anyone recall what he used? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> > Thanks for the assistance.
> > Alex Sloan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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