---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/17/04: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:30 AM - Fuselage sides (TBYH@aol.com) 2. 07:43 AM - Re: Fuselage sides (Dave and Connie) 3. 07:51 AM - Re: Fuselage sides (cgalley) 4. 12:46 PM - Re: Fuselage sides (Bert Conoly) 5. 12:49 PM - Re: Fuselage sides (Dale Johnson) 6. 02:57 PM - Re: Fuselage sides (Richard Navratil) 7. 03:24 PM - Re: Fuselage sides (Waytogopiet@aol.com) 8. 05:52 PM - Re: Fuselage sides (Rcaprd@aol.com) 9. 07:36 PM - ordering the covering (DJ Vegh) 10. 07:54 PM - Re: Plotting Coordinates for Pietenpol Wing Rib ( NO FILES AT... (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 11. 09:01 PM - 3 piece wing (Richard Navratil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:25 AM PST US From: TBYH@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright? I purchased some 4x4' pieces of ply from McCormicks -- they didn't have any 4x8' sheets. If it's not a good idea that's okay as I'll use the 4x4' pieces for gussets, etc. Just wondering... Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:56 AM PST US From: Dave and Connie Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Fred, Worst case you could scarf them. It is not all that hard to do with a hand plane or a router jig. It is done for building stitch and glue kayaks and canoes. Dave At 10:29 AM 10/17/2004, you wrote: >Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright? I purchased >some 4x4' pieces of ply from McCormicks -- they didn't have any 4x8' >sheets. If it's not a good idea that's okay as I'll use the 4x4' pieces >for gussets, etc. Just wondering... > >Fred B. >La Crosse, WI > >--- >Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:53 AM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides If it is a scarf joint 12 to 1 See AC 43.113-1b for details. Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair A Service Project of Chapter 75 EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: TBYH@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright? I purchased some 4x4' pieces of ply from McCormicks -- they didn't have any 4x8' sheets. If it's not a good idea that's okay as I'll use the 4x4' pieces for gussets, etc. Just wondering... Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:00 PM PST US From: "Bert Conoly" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides I did. I butted mine together on top of a diagonal or upright. Glued a corresponding strip of 1 1/2 inch plywood over the butt joint and seems to work ok. If it's under the fabric nobody sees it. And the glued area doing it this way is as good or better than the scarf. My opinion. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: TBYH@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright? I purchased some 4x4' pieces of ply from McCormicks -- they didn't have any 4x8' sheets. If it's not a good idea that's okay as I'll use the 4x4' pieces for gussets, etc. Just wondering... Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:54 PM PST US From: "Dale Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Hi Fred I spliced ours at a upright. I scoffed the joint so it is hidden behind the upright. Used a radial arm saw with a sanding disk instead of a blade . Set the saw about 3 degrees of horz. Dale Mpls ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright? I purchased some 4x4' pieces of ply from McCormicks -- they didn't have any 4x8' sheets. If it's not a good idea that's okay as I'll use the 4x4' pieces for gussets, etc. Just wondering... Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:57:04 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides I dont see that should be a strength issue. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: TBYH@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright? I purchased some 4x4' pieces of ply from McCormicks -- they didn't have any 4x8' sheets. If it's not a good idea that's okay as I'll use the 4x4' pieces for gussets, etc. Just wondering... Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:36 PM PST US From: Waytogopiet@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides In a message dated 10/17/2004 2:50:25 PM Central Standard Time, ddjohn@earthlink.net writes: Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright Did mine on a diagonal for more surface. Dale, how did you get yours BEHIND the upright?? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:36 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 10/17/04 9:52:28 AM Central Daylight Time, cgalley@qcbc.org writes: << If it is a scarf joint 12 to 1 See AC 43.113-1b for details. Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair A Service Project of Chapter 75 EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: TBYH@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage sides Is it okay to splice the fuselage side plywood at an upright? I purchased some 4x4' pieces of ply from McCormicks -- they didn't have any 4x8' sheets. If it's not a good idea that's okay as I'll use the 4x4' pieces for gussets, etc. Just wondering... Fred B. La Crosse, WI >> I agree with Cy. The only acceptable way to join plywood, or any length of wood for that matter, is to use the Scarf Joint, as described in AC 43-13 Chuck Gantzer ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:13 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: ordering the covering I'm excited... I'm going to place an order for covering/chemicals sometime this or next week. Covering begins soon!!!! yeeehawww! DJ _ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:04 PM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plotting Coordinates for Pietenpol Wing Rib ( NO FILES AT... John, Could you post these files to matronics file share or mykitplanes.com? I would like to have access to them. Thanks for going to the trouble. Terry ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:07 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratil" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3 piece wing I was just looking over 3 pc plan and wondering, how do you lead the aileron cable through the turning pulley and attach the wing? To clarify, the swedge turnbuckle end are too large to fit thru the pulley. Do you have to unbolt the pulley or is it typical to add a linkage at the wing side? I don't see anything on the plan about this. Dick