---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/29/04: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:01 AM - Re: Pulleys, etc (Michael D Cuy) 2. 10:38 AM - Pulleys,etc (santiago morete) 3. 10:54 AM - Re: Pulleys,etc () 4. 03:23 PM - Pulleys, etc (santiago morete) 5. 03:50 PM - Re: Pulleys, etc (Doyle Combs) 6. 07:36 PM - Re: Pulleys, etc () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:27 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys, etc --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Santiago-- I used 1/8" cables for the drag and anti drag wires w/ turnbuckles and also for the X wires that go between the lift struts. From what I have seen most builders are using this size for these applications. Some also go with the 1/8" for control cables but I went with the plans and used 3/32" for all of those----except for the short runs from the stick to the elevator bellcrank, as per plans. Pullies can be had in nylon, plastic, phenolic resin, with bearings, without bearings. You just need to look in a Wicks or Aircraft Spruce cat. to find the ones you want to use that accept the cable diameter that you will be using. Mike C. PS--- the Tony Bingelis books tell which cables to use to what applications----like strands, etc. Also I am a firm believer that you should not use stainless cables for anything that will experience bends around pullies. Only galvanized. For fixed, stationary cables it is fine to use stainless. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:28 AM PST US From: santiago morete Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys,etc Thanks Mike. I have read that 1/8 1x19 should be used with swaged end terminals and you can't form it around a thimble. Is that correct? If it is, is not an option for me (costs!!) Saludos desde Argentina Santiago Morete --------------------------------- Encontr ms informacin aqu. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:29 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys,etc --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hola Sanitago, You can form 1/8" 1x19 cable around a thimble, but it is difficult. That's what I used for my drag and anti-drag wires in the wings and for the undercarriage brading wires (I used the straight-axle, wire wheel design). I used standard thimbles and nicopress fittings. The 7 x 19 stuff is nearly as strong and much easier to work with. If you use the -16 sized turnbuckles, the turnbuckles will break before the 7x19 cable will. If I were to do it over I would use 7x19. Jack Phillips NX899JP > > From: santiago morete > Date: 2004/10/29 Fri PM 01:38:07 EDT > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys,etc > > Thanks Mike. I have read that 1/8 1x19 should be used with > swaged end terminals and you can't form it around a thimble. Is that correct? If it is, is not an option for me (costs!!) > Saludos desde Argentina > > Santiago Morete > > > --------------------------------- > Encontr ms informacin aqu. > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:38 PM PST US From: santiago morete Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys, etc Thanks Jack! What did you used (or recommends me) for the flying wires? I'm about to buy cables, turnbuckles, etc. It is common practice to use -16 turnbuckles whit 1/8 cable or should I use -22? Gracias. Santiago --------------------------------- Encontr ms informacin aqu. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:35 PM PST US From: "Doyle Combs" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys, etc Santiago, de donde es usted? Su ingles is perfecto. Estoy listo volar un version de un Pietenpol. Estoy trabajando en la pista. Mi email es: dcombs@Ltex.net. Escribemi, por favor in espanol. I necisito la practica. Adios and gracios. Saludos. Doyle ----- Original Message ----- From: santiago morete To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys, etc Thanks Jack! What did you used (or recommends me) for the flying wires? I'm about to buy cables, turnbuckles, etc. It is common practice to use -16 turnbuckles whit 1/8 cable or should I use -22? Gracias. Santiago Encontr=E1 m=E1s informaci=F3n aqu=ED. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:22 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys, etc Santiago, Use the -22 turnbuckles with the 1/8 cable. I would also recommend performing a pull test on your cable assemblies. The thimbles have a tendency to deform under load which would require readjustment after they've been in service for awhile. Pull testing will deform the thimbles prior to installing them on the airplane and they won't need readjustment. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: santiago morete To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pulleys, etc Thanks Jack! What did you used (or recommends me) for the flying wires? I'm about to buy cables, turnbuckles, etc. It is common practice to use -16 turnbuckles whit 1/8 cable or should I use -22? Gracias. Santiago Encontr=E1 m=E1s informaci=F3n aqu=ED.