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1. 12:16 AM - G-BUCO (Clif Dawson)
2. 05:56 AM - Re: G-BUCO (Galen Hutcheson)
3. 07:01 AM - Re: "Skinny Piet" (Rcaprd@aol.com)
4. 07:11 AM - Re: G-BUCO (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: "Skinny Piet" (Rcaprd@aol.com)
6. 09:12 AM - Re: "Skinny Piet" (Gordon Bowen)
7. 10:05 AM - Re: "Skinny Piet" (Galen Hutcheson)
8. 10:09 AM - Re: G-BUCO (Galen Hutcheson)
9. 10:22 AM - Re: "Skinny Piet" (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
10. 10:28 AM - Re: G-BUCO (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
11. 11:42 AM - Re: G-BUCO (Galen Hutcheson)
12. 07:05 PM - Pics on Mykitplane.com (Galen Hutcheson)
13. 08:54 PM - America Tour '05 (Rcaprd@aol.com)
14. 08:58 PM - Re: "Skinny Piet" (Rcaprd@aol.com)
15. 09:51 PM - Re: America Tour '05 (Gordon Bowen)
16. 10:58 PM - Re: G-BUCO (Clif Dawson)
17. 11:18 PM - Re: "Skinny Piet" (Clif Dawson)
18. 11:50 PM - Re: G-BUCO (Galen Hutcheson)
19. 11:53 PM - Re: America Tour '05 (Clif Dawson)
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Someone in Merry Olde England has made an R/C
model of Buco, 173" span. Saw it in passing on the
cover of one of those pricy English model mags.
Clif
PS, Your welcome and thanks Galen. We'll be watching
for pics of your progress too.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Hi Clif,
I have lots of pics but I don't know about posting
them on the list. If anyone wants to see some of
them, I will be happy to post them or email them to
individuals. Thanks.
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: "Skinny Piet" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/2/04 12:59:49 AM Central Standard Time,
CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca writes:
<< I moved the throttle quadrant 9 times to get it where it's comfortable
for me as well. >>
Clif,
I relocated my power lever 3 times. I finally settled on the bottom side of
the 1/2" X 3/4 stick under the panel, and it pivots in line with the longeron.
I have the push button on / off for the smoke right on the end of the
throttle lever. It's comfortable, and easy to oporate.
Chuck G.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Galen,
Theres two popular ways to post pictures that a lot of folks on the list have been using. One is on the www.matronics.com site. The other one is on the www.mykitplane.com site. They're both simple enough and fun to use.
--
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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| Subject: | Re: "Skinny Piet" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/2/04 1:11:57 AM Central Standard Time,
wacopitts@yahoo.com writes:
<< When I get my Piet built (heaven help
me when) let's hook up and do a trip like that one. >>
Hey Doc,
I'm gonna hold you to that one !! I have a hunch there are some others
who would join us. Imagine a whole gaggle of Low & Slow flyers, barnstorming
America. Very true about so many great people out there, especially 'Airplane
People', at the small airports. Americana at it's finest !! I carried
about 65 lbs of carefully chosen stuff in the front pit. I found the skies east
of Ol' Miss to be a bit more overcast than I'm used to, out here in the Mid
West.
For next summer, I'm kickin' around the idea of doing a lap around the
Rocky Mountains, before heading for Brodhead. I gotta make the Tick Hill Fly
In, then head West till I see the ocean, then up the Left Coast, find a pass up
north around Washington / Idaho / Montana, and head East to Brodhead. Only
problem I see with this plan, is I don't have a transponder. They tell me
there is so many people out in California, and planes in the controlled airspace
out there are thicker than flies on dead cat. I would have to pick my way past
all those magenta circles on the chart.
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | Re: "Skinny Piet" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Chuck,
As a truly "best left" coast flyer, I've made a couple trips thru the
Rockies with my Tomahawk and can make a recommendation for you to transverse
the mountains safely. 1) IFR- I follow roads, specifically I-80 and I-15
and I-90. The danger with I-90 is the altitude/weather problems between
Spokane and Billings, but it's beautiful. I-80 has a high pass between
Rawlings and Cheyenne but I've seen a lot of slow and slow's make it. From
Washington you could drop south and follow the Snake River around the worst
of the Rockies, then head north on I-15 then east on I-90. But most safe
for a low and slow is to follow from WA south along I-84 the US rte. 40 to
"South Pass", then I-80 east, this is the old Oregon Trail. Almost all the
wagon trains crossed the mountains at South Pass along US. 40. 2) There's
lots and lots of places to get lost in CA up close to the Sierras, don't let
the color of the map fool you. 3) get the King Aviation DVD on mountain
flying, and don't let the clear sky's fool you into thinking there are no
winds and downdrafts that won't tear the wings off your plane. Clear air
mountain waves and turbulence down close to the mountain tops can be a
killer. Lastly, its a trip of a lifetime, so be careful.
Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Cozy IV N64CY
Osprey II N64SY
Pietenpol N-1033B Rebuilding
"Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your
aim"
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From: <Rcaprd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Skinny Piet"
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/2/04 1:11:57 AM Central Standard Time,
> wacopitts@yahoo.com writes:
>
> << When I get my Piet built (heaven help
> me when) let's hook up and do a trip like that one. >>
>
> Hey Doc,
> I'm gonna hold you to that one !! I have a hunch there are some
others
> who would join us. Imagine a whole gaggle of Low & Slow flyers,
barnstorming
> America. Very true about so many great people out there, especially
'Airplane
> People', at the small airports. Americana at it's finest !! I carried
> about 65 lbs of carefully chosen stuff in the front pit. I found the
skies east
> of Ol' Miss to be a bit more overcast than I'm used to, out here in the
Mid
> West.
> For next summer, I'm kickin' around the idea of doing a lap around the
> Rocky Mountains, before heading for Brodhead. I gotta make the Tick Hill
Fly
> In, then head West till I see the ocean, then up the Left Coast, find a
pass up
> north around Washington / Idaho / Montana, and head East to Brodhead.
Only
> problem I see with this plan, is I don't have a transponder. They tell me
> there is so many people out in California, and planes in the controlled
airspace
> out there are thicker than flies on dead cat. I would have to pick my way
past
> all those magenta circles on the chart.
>
> Chuck G.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: "Skinny Piet" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Hi Chuck,
That sounds like a fun trip. I have done some
mountain flying in the Carolinias but nothing like the
Rockies. I would like to do some "out west" flying
though. The upper midwest has some great (though not
all that scenic) flying with plenty of good landing
spots and lots of grass airstrips and lots of people
who just love to fly. My part of the country
(northern Arkansas) has some very scenic places to fly
with lots of large lakes and rivers with mountains all
around. When I was barnstorming, I pretty much
followed Richard Bach's old route and hauled many
riders who had once flown with Bach. Of course, I had
to fly south to Florida in the winter and hauled
skydivers mostly just to stay alive while making a
living with an airplane. This is a great big and
beautiful country and it would be a shame not to have
seen as much of it as you can (from a low flying,
open-cockpit puddle jumper). So when I get the Piet
flying, I plan to do just that. I think the idea of a
group of Piets all flying together would be a blast.
It would be the new "Great American Flying Circus--Fly
$3 A Head."
Doc
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Terry,
Is that the photo-share part of matronics? I have
posted some biplane photos there once. All I have
seen on that site were flying airplanes of different
makes. I haven't tried Mykitplanes yet. I'll give it
a look-see and try to post some.
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: "Skinny Piet" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Chuck,
Perhaps we'll need to move the Tick Hill fly-in up a couple of weeks earlier than
last year. I've been thinking of this anyway... How does the last week or
so of June sound?
--
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Yes... the matronics photo share. Both are good. I have some photos and files
about my project on mykitplane.com. Here's the link to the photo gallery.
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList.cfm?Menu=PhotoGallery
--
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Terry, I enjoyed the photos. I have signed up on
mykitplane.com and sent an email on "how to load
photos". I couldn't figure out how to load them.
Thanks for the info.
Doc
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| Subject: | Pics on Mykitplane.com |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
I have posted some building photos on Mykitplane.com.
I'm not sure how long it will take for them to appear.
Hope you like them.
Doc
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| Subject: | America Tour '05 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/2/04 11:13:37 AM Central Standard Time,
gbowen@ptialaska.net writes:
<< Chuck,
As a truly "best left" coast flyer, I've made a couple trips thru the
Rockies with my Tomahawk and can make a recommendation for you to transverse
the mountains safely. 1) IFR- I follow roads, specifically I-80 and I-15
and I-90. The danger with I-90 is the altitude/weather problems between
Spokane and Billings, but it's beautiful. I-80 has a high pass between
Rawlings and Cheyenne but I've seen a lot of slow and slow's make it. From
Washington you could drop south and follow the Snake River around the worst
of the Rockies, then head north on I-15 then east on I-90. But most safe
for a low and slow is to follow from WA south along I-84 the US rte. 40 to
"South Pass", then I-80 east, this is the old Oregon Trail. Almost all the
wagon trains crossed the mountains at South Pass along US. 40. 2) There's
lots and lots of places to get lost in CA up close to the Sierras, don't let
the color of the map fool you. 3) get the King Aviation DVD on mountain
flying, and don't let the clear sky's fool you into thinking there are no
winds and downdrafts that won't tear the wings off your plane. Clear air
mountain waves and turbulence down close to the mountain tops can be a
killer. Lastly, its a trip of a lifetime, so be careful.
Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Cozy IV N64CY
Osprey II N64SY
Pietenpol N-1033B Rebuilding
"Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your
aim" >>
Thanks Gordon !!
I was hoping to find someone with experience in those mountains. I saved
your e-mail, and directions. I just checked the map I have on the routes,
and Homestake Pass in Montana, along Rt. 90 is at 6376'. Along Rt 80 in Utah,
Coalsville Summet is 7800'. Isn't there any lower passes up there ? I've
never had the ol' Piet anywhere near those altitudes. I heard there is a pass
somewhere up there north of Rt 80, that is just over 5000'. I have the mixture
wired full rich right now, so I will have to add a cable and mixture
adjustment. Sometime in the spring, I'll bundle up, check temp and Density Altitude,
and do a test flight to find out the Absolute Ceiling of my plane.
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: "Skinny Piet" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/2/04 12:23:17 PM Central Standard Time,
BARNSTMR@aol.com writes:
<< Perhaps we'll need to move the Tick Hill fly-in up a couple of weeks
earlier than last year. I've been thinking of this anyway... How does the last
week or so of June sound? >>
Terry,
I'm just doing some preliminary planning right now. Management at work would
probably get a chuckle out of my request for a month or two off work !!
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | Re: America Tour '05 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Chuck,
I think the lowest passes up to the North of the UT border are, north out of
Idaho Falls along I-15, thats along the Beaverhead River to Dillion then Rt
41 east along to I-90 to Bozeman. You'd more or less follow the Snake River
valley from Oregon/Washington up stream until you get to the high part of
the mountains. Then have to turn north to get up on the Missouri and
Yellowstone River drainages going downstream, more or less following the
route of Lewis and Clark, going around the bad part of the mountains between
Spokane and Butte.
The Interstate roads actually cut thru most of these passes at about 6500'
because that's just about the average of the continential divide all along
the northern US Rockies. I misstated the US rte from Idaho Falls to east
of Evanston WY, it's US Rte.30. This is the short cut that the truckers
from Portland/Seattle take when they're going to Chicago. The trains from
Seattle/Portland go to the south along I-84, Ogden thru the passes to I'80,
cross all the mountains from west to east along I-80, this is the lowest
route.
Probably the most predicable weather from west to east is to come to the
south from WA to Portland, follow I-84 all the way to I-80 then cross the
highest part of the trip about Rawlings WY. At Rawlings you can go to
Casper and then you're thru the mountains. The Mormon Trail followed that
route but went north of Rawlings over South Pass. But you're gonna have to
fly about 6000' min. because my homebase in UT is 4500', Rawlings Arpt I
think is about 6500' and the mountain passes up to Evanston you have to
climb another 2000' even just to skim along the Interstate. The weather is
mostly clear and dry, the mountains are least obscured by weather fronts
that come ashore between Portland and Seattle and obscure the mountains of a
line from Spokane to Bozeman.
Good Luck- Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rcaprd@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: America Tour '05
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/2/04 11:13:37 AM Central Standard Time,
> gbowen@ptialaska.net writes:
>
> << Chuck,
> As a truly "best left" coast flyer, I've made a couple trips thru the
> Rockies with my Tomahawk and can make a recommendation for you to
transverse
> the mountains safely. 1) IFR- I follow roads, specifically I-80 and
I-15
> and I-90. The danger with I-90 is the altitude/weather problems between
> Spokane and Billings, but it's beautiful. I-80 has a high pass between
> Rawlings and Cheyenne but I've seen a lot of slow and slow's make it.
From
> Washington you could drop south and follow the Snake River around the
worst
> of the Rockies, then head north on I-15 then east on I-90. But most
safe
> for a low and slow is to follow from WA south along I-84 the US rte. 40
to
> "South Pass", then I-80 east, this is the old Oregon Trail. Almost all
the
> wagon trains crossed the mountains at South Pass along US. 40. 2)
There's
> lots and lots of places to get lost in CA up close to the Sierras, don't
let
> the color of the map fool you. 3) get the King Aviation DVD on mountain
> flying, and don't let the clear sky's fool you into thinking there are no
> winds and downdrafts that won't tear the wings off your plane. Clear air
> mountain waves and turbulence down close to the mountain tops can be a
> killer. Lastly, its a trip of a lifetime, so be careful.
> Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
> Cozy IV N64CY
> Osprey II N64SY
> Pietenpol N-1033B Rebuilding
>
> "Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten
your
> aim" >>
>
>
> Thanks Gordon !!
> I was hoping to find someone with experience in those mountains. I
saved
> your e-mail, and directions. I just checked the map I have on the
routes,
> and Homestake Pass in Montana, along Rt. 90 is at 6376'. Along Rt 80 in
Utah,
> Coalsville Summet is 7800'. Isn't there any lower passes up there ? I've
> never had the ol' Piet anywhere near those altitudes. I heard there is a
pass
> somewhere up there north of Rt 80, that is just over 5000'. I have the
mixture
> wired full rich right now, so I will have to add a cable and mixture
> adjustment. Sometime in the spring, I'll bundle up, check temp and
Density Altitude,
> and do a test flight to find out the Absolute Ceiling of my plane.
>
> Chuck Gantzer
> NX770CG
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Take out a free subscription to Mykitplane and post
as many pics as you want! :-) :-)
http://www.mykitplane.com/
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson
<wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi Clif,
>
> I have lots of pics but I don't know about posting
> them on the list. If anyone wants to see some of
> them, I will be happy to post them or email them to
> individuals. Thanks.
>
> Doc
>
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| Subject: | Re: "Skinny Piet" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
How about coming here?
http://www.nweaa.org/
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com> >
For next summer, I'm kickin' around the idea of doing a lap around the
> Rocky Mountains, before heading for Brodhead. I gotta make the Tick Hill
Fly
> In, then head West till I see the ocean, then up the Left Coast, find a
pass up
> north around Washington / Idaho / Montana, and head East to Brodhead.
Only
> problem I see with this plan, is I don't have a transponder. They tell me
> there is so many people out in California, and planes in the controlled
airspace
> out there are thicker than flies on dead cat. I would have to pick my way
past
> all those magenta circles on the chart.
>
> Chuck G.
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
--- Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson
> <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
>
> Take out a free subscription to Mykitplane and post
> as many pics as you want! :-) :-)
>
> http://www.mykitplane.com/
>
> Clif
>
>
>
> Hi Clif,
I posted some on mykitplane.com. Look in builders log
section. Hope you like them.
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: America Tour '05 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
If your going to fly in our rock studded western
clouds :-) you should check this out;
http://www.mountainflying.com/index.htm
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
> > Thanks Gordon !!
> I was hoping to find someone with experience in those mountains. I
saved
> your e-mail, and directions. I just checked the map I have on the
routes,
> and Homestake Pass in Montana, along Rt. 90 is at 6376'. Along Rt 80 in
Utah,
> Coalsville Summet is 7800'. Isn't there any lower passes up there ? I've
> never had the ol' Piet anywhere near those altitudes. I heard there is a
pass
> somewhere up there north of Rt 80, that is just over 5000'. I have the
mixture
> wired full rich right now, so I will have to add a cable and mixture
> adjustment. Sometime in the spring, I'll bundle up, check temp and
Density Altitude,
> and do a test flight to find out the Absolute Ceiling of my plane.
>
> Chuck Gantzer
> NX770CG
>
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