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1. 09:48 AM - Re: America Tour '05 (Rcaprd@aol.com)
2. 10:03 AM - annual inspection logbook entry (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 11:55 AM - Re: annual inspection logbook entry (walt evans)
4. 02:59 PM - Re: annual inspection logbook entry (cgalley)
5. 04:33 PM - Re: America Tour '05 (N321TX@wmconnect.com)
6. 05:00 PM - Re: Price for a new A-65 (Bert Conoly)
7. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: Price for a new A-65 (Jack Phillips)
8. 06:24 PM - Re: America Tour '05 (Gordon Bowen)
9. 09:11 PM - Re: America Tour '05 (Rcaprd@aol.com)
10. 10:49 PM - leading edge (Javier Cruz)
11. 11:02 PM - Re: America Tour '05 (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: America Tour '05 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/3/04 1:53:39 AM Central Standard Time,
CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca writes:
<< If your going to fly in our rock studded western
clouds :-) you should check this out;
http://www.mountainflying.com/index.htm
Clif >>
Clif,
Thanks for the site. I'll be checking, and printing, stuff from that one !!
The NW EAA Fly In has dates that fit my schedule.
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | annual inspection logbook entry |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Does anybody happen to have "typical wording" for logbook entry to be used
for return to service after annual inspection of an aircraft? This is for
experimental, not certified, but is probably the same wording.
Thanks.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection logbook entry |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Oscar,
From the "How to licence a Homebuilt Aircraft"
"I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on
(date) in accordance with the scope and detail of
Appendix D of part 43 and found it to be in condition
for safe operation."
The rest of the entry should include aircraft time in service, your name,
your repairman's certificate type and number, the date and your signature.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: annual inspection logbook entry
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Does anybody happen to have "typical wording" for logbook entry to be used
> for return to service after annual inspection of an aircraft? This is for
> experimental, not certified, but is probably the same wording.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection logbook entry |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
There is a form at the end of Part 43 Appendix D
----- Original Message -----
From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: annual inspection logbook entry
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
>
> Oscar,
> From the "How to licence a Homebuilt Aircraft"
>
> "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on
> (date) in accordance with the scope and detail of
> Appendix D of part 43 and found it to be in condition
> for safe operation."
>
> The rest of the entry should include aircraft time in service, your name,
> your repairman's certificate type and number, the date and your signature.
>
>
> walt evans
> NX140DL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:32 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: annual inspection logbook entry
>
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> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Does anybody happen to have "typical wording" for logbook entry to be
used
> > for return to service after annual inspection of an aircraft? This is
for
> > experimental, not certified, but is probably the same wording.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Oscar Zuniga
> > San Antonio, TX
> > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: America Tour '05 |
Chuck:
Don't forget that out of the 25,000 hours my dad has in his logbook, around
5,000 of those hours are flying the Rocky mountains from El Paso to all points
north through the mountains to include Salt Lake, Boise, Portland and points
in between and to Casper and Phoenix and ABQ. Didn't he ink the low routes on
your wall chart when he was at your house? If not, I'll ask him to recall the
low routes and I'll snail mail a map.
S.B.
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| Subject: | Re: Price for a new A-65 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
Fellas ,
What would one expect to pay for a newly overhauled A-65-8. Generally
speaking of course and ready to go into a certified airplane. Assume new
Slicks and overhauled carb (Stromberg), Spider, and no prop hub or prop.
Thanks, Bert
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| Subject: | Re: Price for a new A-65 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Bert,
I don't know about a certified shop, but I had the following costs when I
rebuilt mine:
Runout core $1500
Overhaul Crankshaft, $975
Conn. Rods, Rocker
Arms, Gears
Overhaul Crankcase $575
Millenium Cylinders $3250
New Camshaft $225
New Cam Followers $500
New Slick Mags $830
New Bearings, carb kit, $175
gaskets, etc,
Total $8,030
Some of these costs are approximate (I'd have to dig through the invocies to
see what I actually paid), but overall it's pretty close. I have
essentially a brand new engine and it runs very well. I can't imagine how
you could pay more for an overhauled engine (except for the labor cost). My
cylinders were shot and would have to be rebuilt. El Reno wanted $550
apiece to rebuild them, and they still would have been 60 years old. New
Milleniums are $800 each, with new pistons, rings, valves and valve springs,
and rocker shafts. I decided it was worth it. Crankshaft was done at
Aircraft Specialties and crankcase was done at Divco. Assembly took a day
and was done by me under the supervision of an A&P, IA. The FAA didn't even
balk at giving me a 25 hour test flight period, even though I had no
original logs for the engine, and told them I had rebuilt it myself. I did
show them all the green and yellow tags for all the parts I had put in it.
Jack
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bert Conoly
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Price for a new A-65
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
Fellas ,
What would one expect to pay for a newly overhauled A-65-8. Generally
speaking of course and ready to go into a certified airplane. Assume new
Slicks and overhauled carb (Stromberg), Spider, and no prop hub or prop.
Thanks, Bert
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| Subject: | Re: America Tour '05 |
Chuck,
If S.B.'s dad comes up with a couple routes over the Rockies that are less than
7000', north of Vegas, I'd sure like to know about them. I've only got a couple
1000 hours total but most of them are flying out of Ogden UT going east over
the Rockies or west over the Sierras. Out of Ogden or Salt Lake heading to
the east you've got 9000' peaks, just to get up to Evanston you've got to fly
the passes and go out over the salt flats north-west of Ogden to climb. Re:
your "wired-down" mixture control, it's just about impossible to get enough power
with a single engine plane for take-off from airports in the inter-mountain
west without leaning a lot. Failure to lean your engine is one of the most
frequent reasons for aborted take-offs for folks flying in from flat country
for fuel. The average airport elevation for the "great basin" is 5000'. The
airports actually in the mountain valleys like Laramie WY are at 7000', if memory
serves. All along the front range of the Rockies, you're starting from
an airport of ca. 5000' and trying to go between mountain peaks of 9000' with
passes at 6500' min. The "lowest" route I can think of for a Piet would be Casper,
Rawlings, Evanston, Ogden, even then you'd have to be able to lean your
carb and climb to 7000', the mountain valleys are wide and dry but it's kinda
spooky to look up at the tops.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: N321TX@wmconnect.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: America Tour '05
Chuck:
Don't forget that out of the 25,000 hours my dad has in his logbook, around 5,000
of those hours are flying the Rocky mountains from El Paso to all points
north through the mountains to include Salt Lake, Boise, Portland and points in
between and to Casper and Phoenix and ABQ. Didn't he ink the low routes on your
wall chart when he was at your house? If not, I'll ask him to recall the low
routes and I'll snail mail a map.
S.B.
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| Subject: | Re: America Tour '05 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
Sterling,
Unfortunately, we didn't put any marks on my big chart. I really enjoyed
having you and your dad here, and hearing about some of his adventures. It would
be very helpful, if you would ask him to recall those 'Low Routes' and mail
them to me. I'll go over them, and maybe give him a call sometime, to answer
the inevitable questions. I'll bet he would enjoy recalling those flights !!
Gordon,
Although I haven't got any experience in Mountain Flying, I always read
everything I can on the subject, and saving all your advise. Some of the small
strips present quite a challenge to get into and out of. There is a good article
in this month's AOPA magazine on the subject. It says "Terrain is absolute.
It's like the Terminator - there's no arguing with it and no reasoning with
it." If I do this flight, I plan on a gradual introduction to the higher
terrain (short hops), and talking with all the locals about the routes. I think
it
would also be necessary for me to limit my cargo to 50 lbs.
Chuck G.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Javier Cruz <javcr@prodigy.net.mx>
Hi friends
I am ready for the leading edge of the wings, checking the list some people
used plywood, other one (DJ i think) used aluminium, so any help here,
coments, recomedations etc.
Thanks in advance
By the way, i want to thanks to Gary Gower for the last weekend at "Chapala
Air Club" excelent planes and people..
Javier Cruz
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| Subject: | Re: America Tour '05 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
I'll be waiting. :-) :-) :-)
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rcaprd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: America Tour '05
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/3/04 1:53:39 AM Central Standard Time,
> CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca writes:
>
> << If your going to fly in our rock studded western
> clouds :-) you should check this out;
>
> http://www.mountainflying.com/index.htm
>
> Clif >>
>
>
> Clif,
> Thanks for the site. I'll be checking, and printing, stuff from that one
!!
> The NW EAA Fly In has dates that fit my schedule.
>
> Chuck G.
>
>
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