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1. 04:47 AM - Re: registration numbers (Phillips, Jack)
2. 08:20 AM - Re: Possible Builder (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
3. 09:06 AM - Re: Possible Builder (N321TX@wmconnect.com)
4. 09:07 AM - Re: prop - ground clearance (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
5. 11:09 AM - Re: Possible Builder (David Peterson)
6. PM - ()
7. 04:17 PM - registration numbers (Ted Brousseau)
8. 04:59 PM - Re: Flying advice (DJ Vegh)
9. 05:52 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (David Paulsen)
10. 10:50 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (Galen Hutcheson)
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| Subject: | registration numbers |
I expected to have a real problem with the FAA when they were inspecting my
Pietenpol. I have the numbers "NX899JP" in 3" numbers on the rudder, and
30" numbers on the wings. I do NOT have the EXPERIMENTAL sign anywhere on
the aircraft. I had all kinds of documentation and pictures of other
Pietenpols (Mike Cuy's) using the NX numbers for the argument. The
inspector just shrugged his shoulders and said "it's legal". Note that this
was a guy from the Greensboro FSDO, not a DAR
For more information on registering your homebuilr, go to the EAA's website,
member's only section under Homebuilders Headquarters.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: Bert Conoly [mailto:bconoly@earthlink.net]
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: registration numbers
Yeah But make sure your DAR is interpreting the FAR the same way. Some DARs
and FAA guys are not on the same page
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I expected to have a real problem with the
FAA when they were inspecting my Pietenpol. I have the numbers
"NX899JP" in 3" numbers on the rudder, and 30" numbers
on the wings. I do NOT have the EXPERIMENTAL sign anywhere on the
aircraft. I had all kinds of documentation and pictures of other Pietenpols
(Mike Cuy's) using the NX numbers for the argument. The inspector
just shrugged his shoulders and said "it's legal". Note that
this was a guy from the Greensboro FSDO, not a DAR
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<span style='font-size:
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homebuilr, go to the EAA's website, member's only section under
Homebuilders Headquarters.
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From: Bert Conoly
[mailto:bconoly@earthlink.net]
11:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:
registration numbers
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| Subject: | Re: Possible Builder |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
David,
Welcome to the list. My recommendation is to JUST START! Build the parts that
you consider the simplest first. Once you start making sawdust and metal shavings,
you'll get into the hang of it. The skills you develop on the simpler
parts lead you into the ability to make the more complex parts. The sooner you
start, the sooner you'll be flying!
--
Terry L. Bowden
p.s. Where are you located?
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| Subject: | Re: Possible Builder |
David and any other "possible builder..."
I have a GN-1 Air Camper (like a Pietenpol) project listed on Barnstormers.
This project would really give someone a great "jump-start" on an Air Camper.
The project is an 80% finished fuselage and nearly all of the wing ribs, built
by DJ Vegh. The ribs are pristine examples of fine craftsmanship, as is the
fuselage. The fuselage looks as if a highly skilled cabinet maker built it. I'll
let the project go for less than it is listed on Barnstormers.
Lots of extra stuff comes with this project to include a new J3 landing gear
mounted to the fuselage, many laser cut metal parts, brakes, torque tube is
already mounted. Tail feathers are already built.
Visit www.barnstormers.com and do a search for Pietenpol and you'll see this
project. I've included a link to DJ's website that has some very good photos
of the fuselage. I can send pictures of the ribs and other parts to anyone who
asks.
Sterling Brooks
Knot-2-Shabby Airport
Central Texas
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| Subject: | prop - ground clearance |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Good one Bill...
That was Hilarious!
--
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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| Subject: | Re: Possible Builder |
Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:08:31 -0600
Terry:
Currently we live in Schaumburg, IL. Next May we are moving to Poplar Grove, IL.
From Poplar Grove, using our C-140, we are 20 minutes from Brodhead.
David W. Peterson
----- Original Message -----
From: BARNSTMR@aol.com<mailto:BARNSTMR@aol.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Possible Builder
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com<mailto:BARNSTMR@aol.com>
David,
Welcome to the list. My recommendation is to JUST START! Build the parts that
you consider the simplest first. Once you start making sawdust and metal shavings,
you'll get into the hang of it. The skills you develop on the simpler
parts lead you into the ability to make the more complex parts. The sooner
you start, the sooner you'll be flying!
--
Terry L. Bowden
p.s. Where are you located?
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| Subject: | registration numbers |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
Bert,
There shouldn't be anything to"interpret". Maybe they are using outdated
materials. Direct them to the Amateur Built Aircraft Reference Material put
out by the FAA also known as AC No.. 20-27F dated 9/26/2003. Go to page 8
paragraph (2) where it says, Height of marks - At least 2" for aircraft with
the same external configuration (that is a replica) of a small aircraft
built at least 30 years ago." And paragraph (3) "Experimental" aircraft
designation. Follow the guidelines in the table below to determine whether
you need an "experimental" aircraft designation. The table says, "replica
aircraft - do not have to label your aircraft "experimental" if it is a
replica of an aircraft built at least 30 years ago. However, in such a
case, you must include an "X" between the nationality designation and the
registration number", i.e. NX1234.
Hope this helps.
Ted
> Time: 08:14:36 PM PST US
> From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: registration numbers
>
> Yeah But make sure your DAR is interpreting the FAR the same way. Some
DARs and
> FAA guys are not on the same page
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alexms1@comcast.net
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: registration numbers
>
>
> D.J.
> If you use NX----- in your number you will not have to have the word
EXPERIMENTAL
> posted inside of the plane. The X serves the same purpose.
> Alex Sloan
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| Subject: | Re: Flying advice |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
wow... thats a long journey in a Pacer.
Will you be standing on a corner in Winslow, AZ?
;)
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying advice
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau"
> <nfn00979@naples.net>
>
> Help. I am bringing a Piper Pacer from Winslow AZ to Naples FL next week.
>
> I need some advice.
>
> Like, how much snow is too much to land in?
>
> Any must stop eating or sightseeing from the air places along the way?
>
> Anything else?
>
> Thanks, Ted
>
> Yes, the heater is supposed to work
>
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "David Paulsen" <dpaul@fidnet.com>
Thanks Doc. Sounds great. Work keeps me tied up these days but hopefully
sometime in the near future we can get together. I have a friend that lets
me rent his old Aeronca. Perhaps that would make a nice trip sometime.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson
<wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Dave,
>
> I've heard of Cuba, but not quite sure where it is. I
> will look on the map. I'd like for you to come down
> sometime and see my project, I still have a long way
> to go before it flies though. Just let me know when
> you want to come down.
>
> Doc
> --- David Paulsen <dpaul@fidnet.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "David
> > Paulsen" <dpaul@fidnet.com>
> >
> > Doc,
> >
> > I just moved into a new place next to the Cuba,
> > Missouri Airport so
> > when I retire in June I can finish my Piet and keep
> > it close by. I'd like
> > to meet you sometime.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> > Hutcheson
> > <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > I live in Harrison, AR. Probably not too far from
> > > you. What town do you live in? I did a lot of
> > > barnstorming in Gainesville and Willow Springs and
> > > flew an airshow in West Plains, MO. Just
> > interested.
> > >
> > > Doc
> > > --- David Paulsen <dpaul@fidnet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks - Richard, Jim and Leon. I appreciate
> > your
> > > > input. Jim, those turnbuckle photos you sent
> > were
> > > > just what the doctor ordered. To answer your
> > > > question - I live in south central
> > Missouri...quite
> > > > a ways away from Plano.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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> > >
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
That's great Dave, just let me know when you want to
come down.
Doc
--- David Paulsen <dpaul@fidnet.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "David
> Paulsen" <dpaul@fidnet.com>
>
> Thanks Doc. Sounds great. Work keeps me tied up
> these days but hopefully
> sometime in the near future we can get together. I
> have a friend that lets
> me rent his old Aeronca. Perhaps that would make a
> nice trip sometime.
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> Hutcheson
> <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > I've heard of Cuba, but not quite sure where it
> is. I
> > will look on the map. I'd like for you to come
> down
> > sometime and see my project, I still have a long
> way
> > to go before it flies though. Just let me know
> when
> > you want to come down.
> >
> > Doc
> > --- David Paulsen <dpaul@fidnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "David
> > > Paulsen" <dpaul@fidnet.com>
> > >
> > > Doc,
> > >
> > > I just moved into a new place next to the
> Cuba,
> > > Missouri Airport so
> > > when I retire in June I can finish my Piet and
> keep
> > > it close by. I'd like
> > > to meet you sometime.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > Do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> > > Hutcheson
> > > <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > >
> > > > I live in Harrison, AR. Probably not too far
> from
> > > > you. What town do you live in? I did a lot of
> > > > barnstorming in Gainesville and Willow Springs
> and
> > > > flew an airshow in West Plains, MO. Just
> > > interested.
> > > >
> > > > Doc
> > > > --- David Paulsen <dpaul@fidnet.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks - Richard, Jim and Leon. I
> appreciate
> > > your
> > > > > input. Jim, those turnbuckle photos you
> sent
> > > were
> > > > > just what the doctor ordered. To answer your
> > > > > question - I live in south central
> > > Missouri...quite
> > > > > a ways away from Plano.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not archive.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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