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1. 02:49 AM - List Fund Raiser - New Gift Addition! (Matt Dralle)
2. 05:45 AM - NX899JP (santiago morete)
3. 06:27 AM - Re: NX41CC is down (Rcaprd@aol.com)
4. 08:11 AM - Re: NX899JP (Phillips, Jack)
5. 08:45 AM - Jack's new Pietenpol Air Camper (Michael D Cuy)
6. 11:25 AM - Re: NX41CC is down (John Dilatush)
7. 02:20 PM - Re: [ Jack Phillips ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Hodgson, Mark O)
8. 03:08 PM - Wire Wheel info (Jim Markle)
9. 04:18 PM - Re: NX41CC is down (walt evans)
10. 04:25 PM - Re: weight and balance (Bert Conoly)
11. 05:45 PM - Re: weight and balance (Richard Navratil)
12. 07:02 PM - Re: Wire Wheel info (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
13. 07:04 PM - Re: weight and balance (Bert Conoly)
14. 07:31 PM - Re: NX41CC is down (alexms1@comcast.net)
15. 07:36 PM - Flying advice (Ted Brousseau)
16. 07:39 PM - Re: Flying advice (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
17. 08:24 PM - Re: [ Jack Phillips ] : New Email (Javier Cruz)
18. 08:40 PM - Re: NX41CC is down (Javier Cruz)
19. 10:34 PM - Re: Wire Wheel info (Galen Hutcheson)
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| Subject: | List Fund Raiser - New Gift Addition! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
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contributed free registered copies of his great Windows kit logging
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Congratulations Jack!! beautiful airplane!!. Did you widened the landing gear?
How much? Would you recommend that? Thank you
Santiago Morete
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| Subject: | Re: NX41CC is down |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
Oscar,
Sorry to hear about the accident. Thank God no one was hurt. I'm sure
everyone appreciates your details about the mishap, and look forward to your
future inputs, as you find out more. It's VERY helpful to everyone in our
group, when details are given, as it will surely help others avoid a similar
situation.
Don't worry, Corky...Although I've never met Oscar in person, I know his
type, and he will have your plane in the air again !!
Chuck Gantzer
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Hi Santiago,
I don't remember, exactly. I think I made them a bit wider than the plans call
for. I believe my gear is 74" wide. It tracks very straight and is quite rugged
(I've made several "less than perfect" landings where I dropped it in from
a foot or so too high). I really like the straight axle gear. There are no
problems with toe-in or alignment and the shock absorption system seems to work
very well. I used the guide pins like Mike Cuy has on his plane.
Jack Phillips, PE
Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development
Clinical Technologies and Services
Cardinal Health
Creedmoor, NC
(919) 528-5212
-----Original Message-----
From: santiago morete [mailto:moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar]
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX899JP
Congratulations Jack!! beautiful airplane!!. Did you widened the landing gear?
How much? Would you recommend that? Thank you
Santiago Morete
Suscribite ya http://correo.yahoo.com.ar/
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| Subject: | Jack's new Pietenpol Air Camper |
d.com>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Jack-- it's great to hear that you are getting some time on your Piet. It
will fit you like a glove once Bhead comes around
next year. I think it will be fun to fly formation from my neck to Wisc.
with you. Let the Tour Great Lakes begin !!!!
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: NX41CC is down |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX41CC is down
=================================
Oscar,
Sorry to hear about your "Piet's" accident, I know how you must feel. And I
am glad that you have decided to put it back together again.
Sometimes I wish that I had taken everyone's advice and waited for a while
before deciding to sell mine. I might have reconsidered and built a new
wing panel for "Mountain Piet". However, it has gone to a good home with
Greg Bacon and I am sure that he will do a good job of repair and enjoy the
plane as much as I did.
Haven't forgotten my committment to you to write the article for "Contact",
I get around to it sometime after the holidays.
Condolences,
John
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Howdy, low and slow fliers;
>
> I'm sure someone will pick up on this sooner or later, so here's the
> official NTSB incident report:
>
> http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1112_N.txt
>
> My instructor, Charlie Avaritt, was at the controls (solo), approx. 500'
> AGL, when carb ice caused the engine to begin running rough. Conditions
> were ideal for formation of carb ice and there is no doubt that this was
the
> cause of the engine roughness. Application of full carb heat did not
smooth
> it out enough to maintain flying speed or altitude and a precautionary
> landing was attempted in the only available field within miles (and very
> little gliding range from that altitude). The landing was successful but
> the rollout, in an unimproved field, collapsed the landing gear at a
fairly
> low airspeed (broke a fitting on one of the shock struts, leading to
> collapse of the other). The airplane dropped to its belly, the air intake
> and leading edge of the firewall dug in, the airplane gently nosed over
and
> ended up on its back. Charlie unhooked the harness, got out, and walked
> away, there was no fire, the engine was stopped during final approach so
the
> prop was horizontal and no damage whatsoever to the engine itself or the
> prop.
>
> Photos and a more complete report will follow, but here it is in a
nutshell:
> the Pietenpol is a strong airplane! No damage whatsoever to the wings,
> horizontal stabilizer, elevator, or almost all of the fuselage. Lower
> cowling is bent, carb is ruined (but I have another), air box will need
> reworking, gascolator mount ditto (the carb and gascolator were what nosed
> into the ground and flipped the airplane). There is sandy loam (DIRT!)
> pretty much all inside the cowling from when the airplane dug in, mixed
with
> dry grass. The forward cabanes are bent and will need to be replaced,
from
> the rollover onto the wing. Leading edge of the vertical stabilizer is
> cracked (again, from the rollover and drop onto the tip of the VS) and
will
> have to be replaced and the VS recovered. EAA 35 members will be called
on
> heavily to pitch in with the repairs and I'm sure they will rise to the
> occasion!
>
> ELT activated upon impact but until we thought about it and shut it off
two
> days later (Saturday), nobody called or showed up. Makes you wonder what
> would have happened if somebody was dying, laying in the snow on a
> mountainside. Also makes you wonder why the FAA makes us pay for these
> things when they are of no use, but maybe why they are obsoleting the VHF
> units in favor of UHF. Corky: the seat belt and shoulder harness worked
to
> perfection. So did the ELT mounts and everything else.
>
> Post-script: after flipping the airplane back over and temporarily bracing
> the main gear legs with some electrical cable so it was steady on its
legs,
> the trip through town on a flatbed trailer was thought to be part of a
> Veterans' Day parade and everybody waved as the plane rolled slowly by on
> its way to the airport. The airplane is extremely popular with people and
> nobody even noticed that the airplane was injured.
>
> Corky: please don't kill me. I promise that none of this is a reflection
on
> your building skills, your airplane, or anything having to do with
> Louisiana. The airplane will live to fly again, and it will have a more
> robust carb heat knob and control, as well as a very positive verification
> of adequate temperature rise through the carb heat muff even if it means
> that I take off the muff and wrap door springs around the exhaust pipes or
> stuff the muff with coarse steel wool. There was just not enough carb
heat,
> maybe 100 degrees on runup. All the parts for a proper system are there,
> but the carb heat really needs to warm that air! To those of you on the
> fence about carb heat: (an old Mexican proverb:) "el golpe avisa".
Roughly
> translated, "the blow teaches a lesson".
>
> News at 11, plus pictures. Sigh. I still have not flown my airplane.
> However, it could have been worse: I could have had my grandson up with
> me...! Happy Thanksgiving, friends, and I'll keep y'all informed as we
get
> into the repairs. I think back to the many test flights that Mr.
Pietenpol
> had in his prototypes, the number of times that he found out "the hard
way"
> what worked and what didn't, and it's really no big deal to fix the
airplane
> and get back out there again like he did time and time again.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [ Jack Phillips ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu>
Congratulations! That is one gorgeous plane, and something to emulate.
Any construction photos? Still curious about the name, though.
Mark Hodgson
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Several on the list have inquired about sources for wire wheels, etc.....
Well, my spoked/mounted wheels arrived today from Buchanan's. Their great! I've
posted pictures on mykitplane.com. Before I have to answer any goofy questions....the
brake WILL NOT be mounted to 1/8" ply (as shown in the picture) and
it will not just lean up against the spokes of the wheel (as shown in the picture)
and it WILL have a brake disc (as NOT shown in the picture).....I just
wanted to see about what it would all look like.....hey, use your imagination!
Also, I'm painting (NOT powder coating) the spokes and rims gloss black to match
the powder coated hub.....
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID803&PlaneID52
I've also posted a (rather large) document containing copies of the invoices for
brakes/tires/liners/tubes/wheels at:
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/PeoplesFiles/wheels.doc
If that link doesn't work, go to mykitplane.com and look in the files area......
Jim in Plano.....
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| Subject: | Re: NX41CC is down |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Oscar,
Sorry to hear about the mishap. That really stinks, but nobody was hurt
which is the really good thing. "Any landing that you can walk away from, is
a good landing" (quoted to me by my WW2 instructor, who flew "Ruthless 4", a
P-51 in the south Pacific).
Lucky for you it was built by someone who built a solid airframe/airplane.
Well now you have a good winter project! :
)
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX41CC is down
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Howdy, low and slow fliers;
>
> I'm sure someone will pick up on this sooner or later, so here's the
> official NTSB incident report:
>
> http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1112_N.txt
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: weight and balance |
I added a weight and balance summary to my website if you all are interested.
I have this in excel spreadsheet form , too - if anybody wants it e-mail off
list and I'll send it to you via attachment.
Bert
http://bconoly.tripod.com/
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| Subject: | Re: weight and balance |
Hi Bert
I just looked at your w/b and the listed empty weight is 667 lb. adding the left,
right and tail 689 lb. ??
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bert Conoly
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: weight and balance
I added a weight and balance summary to my website if you all are interested.
I have this in excel spreadsheet form , too - if anybody wants it e-mail off
list and I'll send it to you via attachment.
Bert
http://bconoly.tripod.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Wire Wheel info |
WOW... Looks Great, Jim!
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| Subject: | Re: weight and balance |
Yeah. Note that the empty weight is found by subtracting outthe weight of the oil
and fuel on board at the time of weighing. At this time I had 4 qts of oil
and 2 gallons of gas. Also 2 lb tare for the tail wheel. That's about 22 lbs.
That's the difference.
You then calculate the fore and aft CG limits by accounting for those factors at
their respective moment arms.
Bert
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: weight and balance
Hi Bert
I just looked at your w/b and the listed empty weight is 667 lb. adding the
left, right and tail 689 lb. ??
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bert Conoly
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: weight and balance
I added a weight and balance summary to my website if you all are interested.
I have this in excel spreadsheet form , too - if anybody wants it e-mail
off list and I'll send it to you via attachment.
Bert
http://bconoly.tripod.com/
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| Subject: | Re: NX41CC is down |
Oscar,
Any landing you walk away from is a good landing. I know.
Alex Sloan
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
>
> Howdy, low and slow fliers;
>
> I'm sure someone will pick up on this sooner or later, so here's the
> official NTSB incident report:
>
> http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1112_N.txt
>
> My instructor, Charlie Avaritt, was at the controls (solo), approx. 500'
> AGL, when carb ice caused the engine to begin running rough. Conditions
> were ideal for formation of carb ice and there is no doubt that this was the
> cause of the engine roughness. Application of full carb heat did not smooth
> it out enough to maintain flying speed or altitude and a precautionary
> landing was attempted in the only available field within miles (and very
> little gliding range from that altitude). The landing was successful but
> the rollout, in an unimproved field, collapsed the landing gear at a fairly
> low airspeed (broke a fitting on one of the shock struts, leading to
> collapse of the other). The airplane dropped to its belly, the air intake
> and leading edge of the firewall dug in, the airplane gently nosed over and
> ended up on its back. Charlie unhooked the harness, got out, and walked
> away, there was no fire, the engine was stopped during final approach so the
> prop was horizontal and no damage whatsoever to the engine itself or the
> prop.
>
> Photos and a more complete report will follow, but here it is in a nutshell:
> the Pietenpol is a strong airplane! No damage whatsoever to the wings,
> horizontal stabilizer, elevator, or almost all of the fuselage. Lower
> cowling is bent, carb is ruined (but I have another), air box will need
> reworking, gascolator mount ditto (the carb and gascolator were what nosed
> into the ground and flipped the airplane). There is sandy loam (DIRT!)
> pretty much all inside the cowling from when the airplane dug in, mixed with
> dry grass. The forward cabanes are bent and will need to be replaced, from
> the rollover onto the wing. Leading edge of the vertical stabilizer is
> cracked (again, from the rollover and drop onto the tip of the VS) and will
> have to be replaced and the VS recovered. EAA 35 members will be called on
> heavily to pitch in with the repairs and I'm sure they will rise to the
> occasion!
>
> ELT activated upon impact but until we thought about it and shut it off two
> days later (Saturday), nobody called or showed up. Makes you wonder what
> would have happened if somebody was dying, laying in the snow on a
> mountainside. Also makes you wonder why the FAA makes us pay for these
> things when they are of no use, but maybe why they are obsoleting the VHF
> units in favor of UHF. Corky: the seat belt and shoulder harness worked to
> perfection. So did the ELT mounts and everything else.
>
> Post-script: after flipping the airplane back over and temporarily bracing
> the main gear legs with some electrical cable so it was steady on its legs,
> the trip through town on a flatbed trailer was thought to be part of a
> Veterans' Day parade and everybody waved as the plane rolled slowly by on
> its way to the airport. The airplane is extremely popular with people and
> nobody even noticed that the airplane was injured.
>
> Corky: please don't kill me. I promise that none of this is a reflection on
> your building skills, your airplane, or anything having to do with
> Louisiana. The airplane will live to fly again, and it will have a more
> robust carb heat knob and control, as well as a very positive verification
> of adequate temperature rise through the carb heat muff even if it means
> that I take off the muff and wrap door springs around the exhaust pipes or
> stuff the muff with coarse steel wool. There was just not enough carb heat,
> maybe 100 degrees on runup. All the parts for a proper system are there,
> but the carb heat really needs to warm that air! To those of you on the
> fence about carb heat: (an old Mexican proverb:) "el golpe avisa". Roughly
> translated, "the blow teaches a lesson".
>
> News at 11, plus pictures. Sigh. I still have not flown my airplane.
> However, it could have been worse: I could have had my grandson up with
> me...! Happy Thanksgiving, friends, and I'll keep y'all informed as we get
> into the repairs. I think back to the many test flights that Mr. Pietenpol
> had in his prototypes, the number of times that he found out "the hard way"
> what worked and what didn't, and it's really no big deal to fix the airplane
> and get back out there again like he did time and time again.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Oscar,
Any landing you walk away from is a good landing. I know.
Alex Sloan
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <TAILDRAGS@HOTMAIL.COM>
Howdy, low and slow fliers;
I'm sure someone will pick up on this sooner or later, so here's the
official NTSB incident report:
http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1112_N.txt
My instructor, Charlie Avaritt, was at the controls (solo), approx. 500'
AGL, when carb ice caused the engine to begin running rough. Conditions
were ideal for formation of carb ice and there is no doubt that this was the
cause of the engine roughness. Application of full carb heat did not smooth
it out enough to maintain flying speed or altitude and a precautionary
landing was attempted in the only available field within miles (and very
little gliding ran
ge from that altitude). The landing was successful but
the rollout, in an unimproved field, collapsed the landing gear at a fairly
low airspeed (broke a fitting on one of the shock struts, leading to
collapse of the other). The airplane dropped to its belly, the air intake
and leading edge of the firewall dug in, the airplane gently nosed over and
ended up on its back. Charlie unhooked the harness, got out, and walked
away, there was no fire, the engine was stopped during final approach so the
prop was horizontal and no damage whatsoever to the engine itself or the
prop.
Photos and a more complete report will follow, but here it is in a nutshell:
the Pietenpol is a strong airplane! No damage whatsoever to the wings,
horizontal stabilizer, elevator, or almost all of the fuselage. Lower
cowling is bent, carb is ruined (but I have another), air box will need
reworking, gascolator mount ditto (the carb and gascolator were what nosed
into the ground and flipped the airplane). There is sandy loam (DIRT!)
pretty much all inside the cowling from when the airplane dug in, mixed with
dry grass. The forward cabanes are bent and will need to be replaced, from
the rollover onto the wing. Leading edge of the vertical stabilizer is
cracked (again, from the rollover and drop onto the tip of the VS) and will
have to be replaced and the VS recovered. EAA 35 members will be called on
heavily to pitch in with the repairs and I'm sure they will rise to the
occasion!
ELT activated upon impact but until we thought about it and shut it off two
days later (Saturday), nobody called or showed up. Makes you wonder what
would have happened if somebody was dying, laying in the snow on a
mountainside. Also makes you wonder why the FAA m
akes us pay for these
things when they are of no use, but maybe why they are obsoleting the VHF
units in favor of UHF. Corky: the seat belt and shoulder harness worked to
perfection. So did the ELT mounts and everything else.
Post-script: after flipping the airplane back over and temporarily bracing
the main gear legs with some electrical cable so it was steady on its legs,
the trip through town on a flatbed trailer was thought to be part of a
Veterans' Day parade and everybody waved as the plane rolled slowly by on
its way to the airport. The airplane is extremely popular with people and
nobody even noticed that the airplane was injured.
Corky: please don't kill me. I promise that none of this is a reflection on
your building skills, your airplane, or anything having to do with
Louisiana. The airplane will live to fly again, and it will have a more <
BR> robust carb heat knob and control, as well as a very positive verification
of adequate temperature rise through the carb heat muff even if it means
that I take off the muff and wrap door springs around the exhaust pipes or
stuff the muff with coarse steel wool. There was just not enough carb heat,
maybe 100 degrees on runup. All the parts for a proper system are there,
but the carb heat really needs to warm that air! To those of you on the
fence about carb heat: (an old Mexican proverb:) "el golpe avisa". Roughly
translated, "the blow teaches a lesson".
News at 11, plus pictures. Sigh. I still have not flown my airplane.
However, it could have been worse: I could have had my grandson up with
me...! Happy Thanksgiving, friends, and I'll keep y'all informed as we get
into the repairs. I think back to the many test flights that Mr. Pietenpol
had in his pr
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
Thanks to all for the snow advice and offer of visits along the way. We
shall see what the weather deals us. Hope to get to visit some of you along
the way.
I leave early in the morning on one of those aluminum human shipping tubes.
Then the adventure begins - after I stand on that corner in Winslow.
This trip will put a minor delay in my Piet progress, but it's work someone
has to do....
Ted
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Watch out for Flatbed Fords.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Javier Cruz <javcr@prodigy.net.mx>
Hi Jack
Congrats, that plane looks really fine, enjoy it
javcr
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Javier Cruz <javcr@prodigy.net.mx>
Hi Oscar
It's hard to me to write that i fill in english, let me try..
With time, this list becomes a family, I believe that I know all Piet's
friends here, I have spoken by telephone with some, I have known in person
others, and is always the same, great camaraderia and friendship, the taste
to construct, the pleasure to speak of wood and metal that some day will be
a Piet (or other plane)that will take us on the air . That's why when we
listened about an accident or incident here is as if all of us were part
of., Really bad news about your plane, the best thing is than there were no
injuries and that the NX41CC will be on the air soon, all is experience..and
is time work, no other way.
Javier Cruz
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Hey those wheels looked great Jim...but when I got a
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beautiful.
Doc
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