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1. 02:42 AM - [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? (Matt Dralle)
2. 05:33 AM - straight gear brake drums (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:38 AM - Model A water temp and oil pressure line routing (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 05:43 AM - Re: Wire Wheel info (Phillips, Jack)
5. 06:35 AM - Rib stitching question (Christopher Friel)
6. 06:42 AM - Re: Rib stitching question (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
7. 06:54 AM - Cable & Lines - routing (Rcaprd@aol.com)
8. 06:54 AM - Re: Rib stitching question (Phillips, Jack)
9. 08:37 AM - Re: straight gear brake drums (Galen Hutcheson)
10. 11:11 AM - you remember, Chuck ! (Michael D Cuy)
11. 11:22 AM - bungee tightness & war stories (Michael D Cuy)
12. 04:37 PM - Re: you remember, Chuck ! (Galen Hutcheson)
13. 10:07 PM - Re: you remember, Chuck ! (Stacy Clark)
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| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and
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| Subject: | straight gear brake drums |
A machinist friend and myself have designed a brake drum/wheel hub combo for straight
axle gear that will fit inside the wire wheel, so nothing protrudes.
It will use eight inch hydraulic brake innerds and a custom made aluminum drum/hub
assembly.
He is interested in making up a few more sets if there is enough interest. At
this point he's willing to sell a few almost at cost so he can get them on airplanes
and get the word out.
He hasn't finished mine yet so he doesn't have a set price, but I'm guessing between
four and five hundred for a set. You'd then have to have them laced up.
They'll come with bushings for the normal straight axle gear.
If anyone is interested, l'll compile a list and when mine are done I'll get you
pictures and specs and if you like them you guys can work deals out with him.
Douwe
douweblumberg@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Model A water temp and oil pressure line routing |
I'm trying like crazy to keep as many lines as possible out of the cockpits and
run along the fuselage.
I'm not sure if this is a good idea for my oil pressure tube and my water temp
line. Putting them under the covering makes them inaccessable, but I'm not sure
if they need to be accessed ever.
They're both hard lines so are a little hard to get around the vertical members
in the cockpits cleanly.
I don't think they should run through the same conduit as my mag wires because
of heat and possible leakage, but maybe screwd to the fuse skin somewhere??
Douwe
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Hi Clif,
My wing LE is 12.63" aft of the firewall, so the axle is 6-7/8" aft of the leading
edge of the wing. My wing is 3-3/4" aft of vertical and I might move it another
=BC" aft or so to move my CG a bit further forward (as a percentage of
wing chord). Right now with me alone and minimal fuel, my CG is right at the
aft limit.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
Jack,
How far aft of the wing LE?
Clif
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| Subject: | Rib stitching question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christopher Friel" <cjfriel@ucdavis.edu>
Hello everybody,
Is it necessary to rib-stitch the tail-feathers when
covering?
Chris Friel
Davis, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Rib stitching question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
YES...They are in the propeller slipstream, so spacing is recommended half the
normal spacing.
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Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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| Subject: | Cable & Lines - routing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/17/04 7:38:33 AM Central Standard Time,
douweblumberg@earthlink.net writes:
<< I don't think they should run through the same conduit as my mag wires
because of heat and possible leakage, but maybe screwd to the fuse skin
somewhere?? >>
Douwe,
I prefer to have access to items that may need future service. I ran the
oil pressure line, and oil temp line along the starboard side of the front
cockpit, secured under the longeron, with rubber coated aluminum Adel clamps (P
clamps), and they are completely out of the way of the front passenger, or
camping cargo. Now, the port side of the front pit is another story. I used a
3/8" steel tubing from the throttle lever, to just under the front panel, near
the forward cabane strut. From there I used a J3 throttle cable to the carb.
I used the length of the throttle cable to determine how long the 3/8" push /
pull tube would be. The Tach cable was the biggest challenge, because there
was just no way to route it to the back of the tach, which is down low on the
port side of my instrument panel. I even made a tapered wedge to mount the
tach in, so it faces the pilot a little bit, and helps keep the tach cable point
a little bit toward the longeron. The tach cable sticks out of the front of
the panel, right in the way of passenger climbing in and out. I also have the
P-Leads, Pitot & Static lines, Carb heat cable, Fuel shut off cable, battery
leads are aircraft wire from the firewall mounted battery, smoke pump wire,
and now I plan on running a fuel mixture cable to the carb. Lots of stuff
there, but it is secure, and I haven't had any problems with any of it, except
for
the appearance. While we're talking about planning stuff in the front
pit, I also have 4 hard points on the floor, to secure cargo to. The front ones
are a fitting bolted to the lower, inner engine mount brackets. Last spring,
I changed the EL brackets on the inside of the forward landing gear / lift
strut attach point. I used .060 4130 steel, and instead of just bending an EL,
I added enough material to the vertical leg, to make a slight bend in at the
top, drilled a 1/4" hole in it, and I have two more hard points to secure cargo.
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Rib stitching question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
Yes. Loss of fabric on the tail would be catastrophic. Besides,
assuming you are covering the tail first, it is good practice for
ribstitching the wing.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Friel [mailto:cjfriel@ucdavis.edu]
Hello everybody,
Is it necessary to rib-stitch the tail-feathers when
covering?
Chris Friel
Davis, CA
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| Subject: | Re: straight gear brake drums |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
I would be interested in seeing the pics.
Doc
--- Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> A machinist friend and myself have designed a brake
> drum/wheel hub combo for straight axle gear that
> will fit inside the wire wheel, so nothing
> protrudes.
>
> It will use eight inch hydraulic brake innerds and a
> custom made aluminum drum/hub assembly.
>
> He is interested in making up a few more sets if
> there is enough interest. At this point he's
> willing to sell a few almost at cost so he can get
> them on airplanes and get the word out.
>
> He hasn't finished mine yet so he doesn't have a set
> price, but I'm guessing between four and five
> hundred for a set. You'd then have to have them
> laced up. They'll come with bushings for the normal
> straight axle gear.
>
> If anyone is interested, l'll compile a list and
> when mine are done I'll get you pictures and specs
> and if you like them you guys can work deals out
> with him.
>
> Douwe
> douweblumberg@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | you remember, Chuck ! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Last year in 2003 when I approached Brodhead I had a huge tailwind and was
making
over 100 mph on the GPS from Chicago northward.........but after circling
Brodhead Airport
I was pretty pissed to see they had the NE-SW runway X'ed out. I never
have landed in that kind
of crosswind in my life but thanks be to God it turned out okay with a last
second plunk and shove the
aileron all the way over. What a picnic that was. Hand me a beer,
will you ?
Mike C.
PS-- in retrospect I should have just landed on the X-ed out runway as
NOBODY was taxiing or flying for
good reason !!!
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| Subject: | bungee tightness & war stories |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Group-- I've mentioned before that when my bungees were too loose I had a
helluva time taking off
at the Waco fly-in one year because even tho I had full left stick in on
takeoff the "authority" there was
not 'connecting' with the gear. The wind basically overpowered the
bungees and I could not 'dig' my wing
into the wind. That was really disconcerting. Perhaps that is the story
you were thinking of Chuck ?
I went home and re-wrapped them tighter. Another thing I've had happen is
that I get one wrapped tighter than
the tother and then she rides funny.
I don't have any real gap in my bungees when the plane is empty but with
full fuel and a passenger I'm off the
ash blocks by about an inch and somewhere, somehwere I read that Pietenpol
said "that's about right". Dunno.
Depends on how soft or hard a ride you like. Either way-- I love that
landing gear 100%.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: you remember, Chuck ! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
You bet Michael, choice of "runway" is pilot's
discretion whenever there are potential hazards, ie.
strong winds and tail-draggers. I have landed in some
pretty strange places on airports because of that
reason. Old biplanes just hate cross-winds and hard
surface runways almost never seem to face into the
wind.
Doc
--- Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
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> Last year in 2003 when I approached Brodhead I had a
> huge tailwind and was
> making
> over 100 mph on the GPS from Chicago
> northward.........but after circling
> Brodhead Airport
> I was pretty pissed to see they had the NE-SW runway
> X'ed out. I never
> have landed in that kind
> of crosswind in my life but thanks be to God it
> turned out okay with a last
> second plunk and shove the
> aileron all the way over. What a picnic that was.
> Hand me a beer,
> will you ?
>
> Mike C.
>
> PS-- in retrospect I should have just landed on the
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| Subject: | Re: you remember, Chuck ! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stacy Clark" <stacy@unicom-alaska.com>
I used to work at San Carlos (SQL) in California. There was a 15 knot
crosswind or more pretty much all year long. When the wind would finally go
down the pipe everyone religiously blew their landings. Now, up here in the
bush it's a different story altogether. Especially in the winter during
snow removal..."pick a runway, any runway."
Stacy
There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that
is to achieve it -- Stacy Clark
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