---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/18/04: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:57 AM - Re: you remember, Chuck ! (Rcaprd@aol.com) 2. 06:18 AM - Re: bungee tightness & war stories (Rcaprd@aol.com) 3. 06:24 AM - Re: Turnbuckles etc. (Rick Holland) 4. 08:13 AM - Arriving at Brodhead, 2003 (Michael D Cuy) 5. 07:32 PM - Landing gear question (ADonJr@aol.com) 6. 11:03 PM - Re: straight gear brake drums (Borodent@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:11 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: you remember, Chuck ! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 11/17/04 1:12:29 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes: << I never have landed in that kind of crosswind in my life >> Ah, yes...I remember that windy arrival well !! I watched you land, and from that far away, it didn't really look like you had much problem. I got to Brodhead just about 15 or 20 minutes ahead of you, Mike, and those big yellow X's got my attention, too, because I've never landed in that kind of crosswind, either. I buzzed the X'ed out runway two times, to chase all the riff raff off of the runway, and went ahead and landed on the closed runway. It was easy enough to land short. But, of course, when I passed by the crowd during the fly - by, I gave them all a BIG 'YEEEEE HAAWWW !!' After I taxied in, and shut down, someone politely came up to me and let me know I just landed on a closed runway. I said "Is that what those big yellow X's are for ?? I thought they were supposed to be big White X's !!" he he he !! I also remember well that Saturday evening, after the pork chop feast. The wind finally did settle down some, and they opened the runway that was favorable to the conditions, and everybody headed for the sky !! That was by far, the most aircraft in the pattern that I've ever been with !! There must have been 12 or 15 planes in the pattern...best head on a swivel, white knuckle flying I've ever done !! It seemed like everyplace I looked, there were several of planes in the sky...Way Cool !! Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:43 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: bungee tightness & war stories --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 11/17/04 1:22:37 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes: << Group-- I've mentioned before that when my bungees were too loose I had a helluva time taking off at the Waco fly-in one year because even tho I had full left stick in on takeoff the "authority" there was not 'connecting' with the gear. The wind basically overpowered the bungees and I could not 'dig' my wing into the wind. That was really disconcerting. Perhaps that is the story you were thinking of Chuck ? >> Yes, Mike, I think that was the war story I was thinking of. I had similar experience when my bunji's were too loose on the split axle gear. I haven't flown for three weeks, now. I missed one or two chances to fly, but it has been raining here for almost a week. I think I'm getting withdrawal symptoms. When I'm driving my car, and I'm getting off an exit, I'm thinking...'OK, final approach...watch the airspeed...keep it on the center line...yeah, that one felt good...taxi up the driveway, and shut down. Three weeks ago, I was doing some pattern work, practicing those right crosswind landings. On three consecutive touch & goes, I managed to land on the right wheel, add just a little bit of power, and keep the left wheel off the surface for a couple hundred feet, then add full power, and go again, without ever touching the left wheel down. Quite a good challenge. Then I took a female passenger, for a flight down south of Cook Airfield, and did a small portion of the 'River Run'. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:31 AM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; b=qWdhdXbs9JRMH4PGOBQYp7nfpusVQ++o6NNe/c0FWAVDK7Q1aUZ8ssI39X657ZAa+nfkBRQ1vxXYZOaWabM0nwlstOzrwLmnZ4qYblE++2tJ3Ke4p9vIydJrfQV2EEZ8tATDMcPFm6FUpI27ORqYqOiDw6Otv2XPYUmiUzt4mnIMessage-ID: From: Rick Holland Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles etc. --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland Just got back from a business trip to DC and spent some time in the Smithonian Air and Space museum. Had several pages shown on a display from an aircraft equipment catalog from the early twenties. Us Piet people would love it if this company was still in business. They had aircraft turnbuckles for $2.50 a dozen (at that time hardare store turnbuckles would probably be under a buck for a dozen), and complete spoke wheels with I thnk 5 or 6 in hubs, 20 to 28 inch diameter for $6.00 to $9.00. Also had mounts and parts for Glenn Curtis engines, etc. Would love to find a reproduction of that catalog. Rick Holland On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:01:03 -0600, Leon Stefan wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) > > Hello: A good source for turnbuckles is B & B Aircraft of Gardner Ks. > (Ks. City) I was up there in June and he had a tray full of them for > $8.95 each. In a 1995 Buckeye news letter, John Greenlee gave an address > for the Co. that made his radiator. ..Bell Mfg. Bowie Tx. Ask for Dave. > 817-872-2227, 1800-433-0939. They make radiators for oil well pump > engines. Greenlee said several builders have since bought from them. > They have the drawings on file and could whip one out for you for $250. > Not as pretty as a Lovely radiator, solder seams and marks are visible, > but Greenlee thought the rough huen look went well with the Piet which > has a 30's rough huen look any way. I would imagine if your engine has > the modern Ken Pirkens water pump you could run pressure, but not with > the original pump with the old packing gland seal. Larry Williams rad. > is not a VW golf rad., but it is similar. He had overheating problems in > the beginning, but that went away after brake in. NEW POTENTIAL > BUILDER....The plans are pure @%!&> Pretty good for a 15 year old kid > who drew them up from a completed airplane, but BHP who build around 23 > airplanes never bothered to redraw a cleaned up, corrected set of plans. > Builders are still making the same mistakes 75 years later. You can get > around plans problems by asking lots of questions from people on this > list who have figured these things out. I would be afraid to buy a > project from some one who wasn't on this list. Leon Stefan Nickerson > Ks. with a barrel full of scrap, junk do overs because I interpreted he > vague areas of the plans wrong. > > > -- Rick Holland ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:30 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Arriving at Brodhead, 2003 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Chuck-- wow, you only got there about 15 or 20 min. ahead of me and then those buttheads politely pointed out to you that you landed on a closed runway ? I'd like to have put their butt in the cockpit and make them land on 9/27 that day. The irony of your story is that someone came up to me after I landed and said "so why didn't you land on the closed runway ?" Can't make anyone happy sometimes;) Mike do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:26 PM PST US From: ADonJr@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear question Group, I am planning to use wire wheels on my Piet, and I'm curious. Has anyone used the Skyscout landing gear on an Aircamper? I like the spring arrangement and the "look" of the gear. It looks like some redesign of the fuselage bracing might be needed. Any feedback will be welcome. Thanx! Don Cooley ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:36 PM PST US From: Borodent@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: straight gear brake drums --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Borodent@aol.com Im interested in wour brake wheels - please send me additional infop when available Henry Williams 59 Crescent Dr Huntington NY 11743 email Borodent@aol.com tel 631 423 1813