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1. 05:01 AM - electric tachs and "A" engine guys (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 08:29 AM - Re: mag grounding (Rcaprd@aol.com)
3. 08:37 AM - Re: mag grounding (Richard Navratil)
4. 11:55 AM - Ted Brousseau (Isablcorky@aol.com)
5. 12:17 PM - [PLEASE READ] More What Listers Are Saying... (Matt Dralle)
6. 03:31 PM - Re: straight gear brake drums---a photo of some (Tom Stinemetze)
7. 05:26 PM - Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts? (Bert Conoly)
8. 07:17 PM - Re: flippy floppy super twisty ailerons (Richard Navratil)
9. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts? (Clif Dawson)
10. 07:37 PM - Re: straight gear brake drums---a photo of some (alexms1@comcast.net)
11. 07:40 PM - Re: Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts? (Matt Lansford)
12. 09:05 PM - To those new to the list (Rcaprd@aol.com)
13. 11:41 PM - Re: straight gear brake drums---a photo of some (Galen Hutcheson)
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Subject: | electric tachs and "A" engine guys |
Larry Williams uses, and I am going to use an electric tach made by Westach, I
think they're listed in aircraft spruce catalog. They make a tach that runs off
the p lead of the mag and needs no other power source. There is just one tiny
wire running up and poof! you're done. Do install a 16 amp in line fuse because
theoretically if a short developed in the tach it could stop your mag.
The guy that did my "A" engine is Ron Kelly in Texas. He's a model "A" guru who
builds up engines for endurance racing etc. He's got a website, don't know
the exact address but his business name is RK Designs which might be it, or just
search. I opted for inserts over babbit and a counterbalanced crank and modern
chevy pistons for extra strength. I know that Perkins does a beautiful job
and is extremely knowlegable.
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Subject: | Re: mag grounding |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/19/04 8:04:14 PM Central Standard Time,
douweblumberg@earthlink.net writes:
<< Everything I've read (Bingelas, etc) says that the mags should be grounded
and they have a grounding screw, but I'm not sure why since the mag body is
positively grounded to the engine already. Am I missing something? do I still
need to ground them with a wire to some bolt? >>
Yes, you still need to ground the mag to the engine block. Better safe, than
sorry.
Chuck G.
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Subject: | Re: mag grounding |
You will need to run a ground to the mag switch to make it work. Also, you will
want to ground to bond to your VHF and it is recommended that you have a ground
plate somewhere. My plane has an aluminum access plate on the underside behind
the rear cockpit Fuel tank is also grounded.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: mag grounding
Finally got my "A" engine from the engine guy and it is beautiful. Can't wait
to get it mounted.
Everything I've read (Bingelas, etc) says that the mags should be grounded and
they have a grounding screw, but I'm not sure why since the mag body is positively
grounded to the engine already. Am I missing something? do I still need
to ground them with a wire to some bolt?
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Pieters,
Last summer I was in a position to track the journey of Chuck G wandering
around the U S. Today I have the same priviledge to report to the net on the
ferrying journey of Ted in Naples.
He notified the net of his proposed trip with friend Joel to fly to Winslow,
Az and fly Joel's Piper Pacer to Ft Myers, Fl. They departed Winslow Wed. morn
but only made Santa Rosa, N M Wed. Their story in Santa Rosa I'll leave for
Ted to give you. Left S R and flew "on top" and finally came below in what they
realized was the last hole. Thurs night was in Plano, Tx. Was late getting
out of Addison Fri morn, weather, and landed about 1300 at Shreveport Regional
where I met them and delivered them for a lunch with my bride Isabelle and me.
After filling their tummies with Shrimp Gumbo and examining Repiet's progress
it was back to Regional and flight continuation. Beautiful little Pacer. Took
off about 1500, cloudy skies, est 2500 ceiling with good visibility. They made
Hammond, La ( 40 E of Baton Rouge). Ted called this morning, it was raining
HARD, Louisiana dew, but expected to hop East today and will push until dark.
I'm sure they will make Ft Myers by Sunday dark.
Thought some of you might be interested in Ted's journey.
Corky, unofficial Louisiana Piet reporter
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Subject: | [PLEASE READ] More What Listers Are Saying... |
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Subject: | Re: straight gear brake drums---a photo of some |
HI folks. I'm rather new to the site and still haven't got it all
figured out. For instance, when a message like the one I am replying to
mentions "here's a photo" but there is no corresponding link - how do
you go about finding it?
Don't want to bore you with long-winded introductions but looks like
you're in for a short one anyway. I have a son (Matthew Stinemetze) who
works for Burt Rutan out in Mojave, CA. He was the lead engineer during
the construction phase of SpaceShipOne and then got to fly on the mother
ship White Knight as flight engineer many times including the two
of the X-Prize cash as well. He's only 28 - THAT'S NOT FAIR!
Anyway, I decided that my kids shouldn't have all the fun so I took that
event as a challenge to try a couple of fun things myself. After
dreaming flying my whole live (he came by it honestly, he had to live
with books, models, etc. etc., etc. during his childhood) I have decided
to build an Air Camper in my workshop. It's going to be powered by a
Corvair 110 HP engine which is already torn down and under way, and
pulled by a hand-carved prop (been through Al Schubert's manual about
three times and pretty close to getting started.) I have already
collected manuals from William Wynne (The Corvair Authority), Al
Schubert (the propeller guy), various GM manuals, catalogues from
Aircraft Spruce and Sporty's, and plans from the Pietenpol family. Oh
Yeah, somewhere in there I've got to get a pilot's license too.
Think that's too much to bite off for a 54-year old "pleasantly plump"
guy from McPherson? Maybe I should just change by e-mail moniker to
McIdiot?
Kudos to the webmaster for a great site for much-needed information.
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Subject: | Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts? |
AS&S lists the Tensil strength for AN bolts as 125,000 psi. Anybody know what
the Sheer capacity is. Or if not, what is a typical ratio for bolts?
Thanks
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Subject: | Re: flippy floppy super twisty ailerons |
Hi Dj
When the covering is on, everything tightens up. When the ailerons are attached
to the wing, there will be no twist. The wing will still have a bit of give.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flippy floppy super twisty ailerons
My ailerons are built and ready to cover. I was noticing how easy they are able
to twist from end to end. I'm assuming that after covering and stitching
that ease of twisting will go away.
Not that there is a straight comparison between the two, but I know that my RC
airplane wings always stiffened up after covering.
Same deal with the wings... my wings are very "twisty" I know the lift struts
will keep them in check but outboard of the struts they can twist fairly easily.
am I correct in assuming that after these things are covered I won't be able
to twist them like a piece of red licorice??
DJ
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Subject: | Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts? |
<001501c4cf69$1df02690$6701a8c0@computername>
2/3 X tensile or 83,333.3 psi , whichever comes first. :-)
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Bert Conoly
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts?
AS&S lists the Tensil strength for AN bolts as 125,000 psi. Anybody know what
the Sheer capacity is. Or if not, what is a typical ratio for bolts?
Thanks
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Subject: | Re: straight gear brake drums---a photo of some |
Tom,
Welcome to the club. Once you get the "itch" to build, it never goes away. Only
cure for the "itch" is to scratch it out in the work shop on a daily basis
. I got the "itch" in 1973 and the Pietenpol is the third case so far. When
it is done, who knows?
Alex S.
-------------- Original message --------------
HI folks. Im rather new to the site and still havent got it all figured out.
For instance, when a message like the one I am replying to mentions heres a photo
but there is no corresponding link how do you go about finding it?
Dont want to bore you with long-winded introductions but looks like youre in for
a short one anyway. I have a son (Matthew Stinemetze) who works for Burt Rutan
out in Mojave, CA. He was the lead engineer during the construction phase
of SpaceShipOne and then got to fly on the mother ship White Knight as flight
engineer many times including the two X-Prize flights. Burt gave every employee
of Scaled Composites a piece of the X-Prize cash as well. Hes only 28 THATS
NOT FAIR!
Anyway, I decided that my kids shouldnt have all the fun so I took that event as
a challenge to try a couple of fun things myself. After dreaming flying my
whole live (he came by it honestly, he had to live with books, models, etc. etc.,
etc. during his childhood) I have decided to build an Air Camper in my workshop.
Its going to be powered by a Corvair 110 HP engine which is already torn
down and under way, and pulled by a hand-carved prop (been through Al Schuberts
manual about three times and pretty close to getting started.) I have already
collected manuals from William Wynne (The Corvair Authority), Al Schubert
(the propeller guy), various GM manuals, catalogues from Aircraft Spruce and
Sportys, and plans from the Pietenpol family. Oh Yeah, somewhere in there Ive
got to get a pilots license too.
Think thats too much to bite off for a 54-year old pleasantly plump guy from McPherson?
Maybe I should just change by e-mail moniker to McIdiot?
Kudos to the webmaster for a great site for much-needed information.
Tom,
Welcome to the club. Once you get the "itch" to build, it never goes away. Only
cure for the "itch" is to scratch it out in the work shop ona daily basis . I
got the "itch" in 1973 and the Pietenpol is the third case so far. When it is
done, who knows?
Alex S.
-------------- Original message --------------
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HI folks. Im rather new to the site and still havent got it all figured out. For
instance, when a message like the one I am replying to mentions heres a photo
but there is no corresponding link how do you go about finding it?
Dont want to bore you with long-winded introductions but looks like youre in for
a short one anyway. I have a son (<st1:PersonName>Matthew Stinemetze</st1:PersonName>)
who works for Burt Rutan out in Mojave, CA. He was the lead engineer
during the construction phase of SpaceShipOne and then got to fly on the mother
ship White Knight as flight engineer many times including the two X-Prize
flights.&nbs
p; Burt gave every employee of Scaled Composites a piece of the X-Prize cash as
well. Hes only 28 THATS NOT FAIR!
Anyway, I decided that my kids shouldnt have all the fun so I took that event as
a challenge to try a couple of fun things myself. After dreaming flying my whole
live (he came by it honestly, he had to live with books, models, etc. etc.,
etc. during his childhood) I have decided to build an Air Camper in my workshop.
Its going to be powered by a Corvair 110 HP engine which is already torn
down and under way, and pulled by a hand-carved prop (been through Al Schuberts
manual about three times and pretty close to getting started.) I have already
collected manuals from William Wynne (The Corvair Authority), Al Schubert (the
propeller guy), various GM manuals, catalogues from Aircraft Spruce and Sportys
, and plans from the Pietenpol family. Oh Yeah, somewhere in there Ive got to
get a pilots license too.
Think thats too much to bite off for a 54-year old pleasantly plump guy from McPherson?
Maybe I should just change by e-mail moniker to McIdiot?
Kudos to the webmaster for a great site for much-needed information.
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Subject: | Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts? |
Hopefully, niether! :)
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: Clif Dawson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts?
2/3 X tensile or 83,333.3 psi , whichever comes first. :-)
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Bert Conoly
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sheer strength for AN bolts?
AS&S lists the Tensil strength for AN bolts as 125,000 psi. Anybody know
what the Sheer capacity is. Or if not, what is a typical ratio for bolts?
Thanks
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Subject: | To those new to the list |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/20/04 5:31:51 PM Central Standard Time,
stinemetze@mpks.net writes:
<< Think that's too much to bite off for a 54-year old "pleasantly plump"
guy from McPherson? >>
Tom,
If they can build a space ship, you can certainly build a Pietenpol, and
get your pilots licensee. Sounds like you're already started.
Congratulations on having a Son that is now immortalized in the History Books !!
Is that
McPherson Kansas ?
Welcome to the Pietenpol List !! You will find it very informative,
humorous at times, and get to know like minded individuals who have been infected
with 'Aeronautica Basilica'. There are Builders and Flyers alike, quite a
few who have been on this list for years, and you can draw on their experience
with a simple e-mail. If you wish to reply to a portion of a message, just
click / drag / highlight on the original text, then click 'Reply'. The text goes
on the mail that you will send, then you can make your reply...like I did on
your text at the top of this message. It is very helpful if you type in the
'Subject', because all this correspondence is archived, and it makes it easier
to look up a subject while searching the archives. A photo is only going to
be there if the sender attaches one. However, please keep in mind that if you
attach a photo to the e-mail, a lot of us have a dial up connection, and
photo's take a long time to download. This is the reason Matt Dralle (webmaster)
has made a site for you to send photo's to, so you can send photo's to
Matronics Photo Share.
Chuck Gantzer
Wichita KS
Cook Airfield (on the Southeast side of town)
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: straight gear brake drums---a photo of some |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Welcome to the newsgroup Tom,
Fifty-four certainly isn't to old to start a project.
I'm 56 and this is my first project too. I love it
and you will too. You will find this site very
helpful so stay tuned in. The sooner you get started
on your project the better. Then do some work on it
everyday and before you know it, the thing starts
looking like an airplane! So get started and have
some fun. If you want some building pics, just let me
know and I will email you some.
Doc
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