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1. 12:12 AM - Oh So Many Great Comments... (Matt Dralle)
2. 08:33 AM - Re: House paint details (DJ Vegh)
3. 10:04 AM - Re: House paint details (Doyle Combs)
4. 04:10 PM - Re: House paint details (Gary Gower)
5. 07:19 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 11/30/04 (Ted Brousseau)
6. 07:26 PM - House paint details (Ted Brousseau)
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| Subject: | Oh So Many Great Comments... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
As I write this its still November 30th so technically the List Fund Raiser
is still underway! :-) I've gotten so many nice comments from Listers in
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the meantime, please read over some of the nice things people have been
saying about the List along with their Contribution...
Thank you!!!
Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Re: House paint details |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
I'm using the polyfiber process... I've already bought the silver Poly-Spray
and am wondering... can I finish using the polyfiber process up to
Poly-Spray and then go latex color on top of that?!
I had intended on using polyfiber colors but damn!!! it's SOOO expensive.
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: House paint details
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Ted,
>
> I also used this method and works GREAT!.
>
> I used this method in my Ladder Pou, Nothing needed but latex and is
> UV protectant by itself.
>
> I used the latex (semigloss) paint as final color (blue and yellow),
> but two other builders here used automotive paint (with a plastifier to
> prevent the paint from "braking") as final coat over the latex, looks
> like show room finish.
> I like the finish of my paint (well, what can I say? :-)
>
> The best latex paint to use (and still is very inexpensive) is the one
> with more than 10 years waranty, this has the more UV protection.
>
> 3 years now in my plane and still perfect finish like new.
>
> here is one link to my project:
>
> http://www.fly5k.org/MEM/GaryPouchel/GaryGower1.htm
>
> I also have a photo page in Yahoo with the full construction process,
> there I have several photos of the painting process but the address was
> changed by them and I have it at my work computer, with other links
> related: Tests in direct sun for several years, etc.
>
> Will send you the info tomorrow. Is your new Piet readt to cover?
> Congratulations.
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower.
>
> --- Ted Brousseau <nfn00979@naples.net> wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau"
> > <nfn00979@naples.net>
> >
> > Dick N,
> >
> > I remember that you said you painted your plane with house paint. I
> > don't
> > remember that you gave a lot of details. If you did, just say so and
> > I will
> > look in the archives. If you didn't would you answer a couple of
> > questions?
> >
> > Did you use any primer on the dacron, i.e., poly brush, or anything
> > else?
> > Did you spray? If so, did you have to thin much? Did you use any UV
> > protection under it? Any platicizers added? Anything else you
> > learned that
> > would help someone following your lead?
> >
> > Thanks, Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: House paint details |
DJ, I painted over silver and also some painted areas in some renewing of my fuselage.
It goes on ok, but not as good as using the Latex all the way. I have
not had any real problems with the mixture of the twol. Also I used Sherwin Williams
Polyurethane as a final coat because the house paint was so soft and would
scratch easily. The gloss I liked better any way. I brushed some of the Poly
and sprayed some. They both looked good.
D. Combs
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: House paint details
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
I'm using the polyfiber process... I've already bought the silver Poly-Spray
and am wondering... can I finish using the polyfiber process up to
Poly-Spray and then go latex color on top of that?!
I had intended on using polyfiber colors but damn!!! it's SOOO expensive.
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: House paint details
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Ted,
>
> I also used this method and works GREAT!.
>
> I used this method in my Ladder Pou, Nothing needed but latex and is
> UV protectant by itself.
>
> I used the latex (semigloss) paint as final color (blue and yellow),
> but two other builders here used automotive paint (with a plastifier to
> prevent the paint from "braking") as final coat over the latex, looks
> like show room finish.
> I like the finish of my paint (well, what can I say? :-)
>
> The best latex paint to use (and still is very inexpensive) is the one
> with more than 10 years waranty, this has the more UV protection.
>
> 3 years now in my plane and still perfect finish like new.
>
> here is one link to my project:
>
> http://www.fly5k.org/MEM/GaryPouchel/GaryGower1.htm
>
> I also have a photo page in Yahoo with the full construction process,
> there I have several photos of the painting process but the address was
> changed by them and I have it at my work computer, with other links
> related: Tests in direct sun for several years, etc.
>
> Will send you the info tomorrow. Is your new Piet readt to cover?
> Congratulations.
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower.
>
> --- Ted Brousseau <nfn00979@naples.net> wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau"
> > <nfn00979@naples.net>
> >
> > Dick N,
> >
> > I remember that you said you painted your plane with house paint. I
> > don't
> > remember that you gave a lot of details. If you did, just say so and
> > I will
> > look in the archives. If you didn't would you answer a couple of
> > questions?
> >
> > Did you use any primer on the dacron, i.e., poly brush, or anything
> > else?
> > Did you spray? If so, did you have to thin much? Did you use any UV
> > protection under it? Any platicizers added? Anything else you
> > learned that
> > would help someone following your lead?
> >
> > Thanks, Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: House paint details |
Hello DJ,
I dont think is necesary, the Latex will hold directly (mechanicaly) to the Dacron
fibers, and is UV protectant, two hands of latex with foam paint brush
(one in one direction, let dry 1 hour, and the second one in cross direction,
if you want the third hand with latex, you are finished, if not, just you give
a third hand with automotive paint (same color) and will look better (brighter)
than aircraft paint, if you use a semigloss type it will look "antique"
and nobody will notice the diference, but your wallet...
Here in our Club is a Kitfox 6 (the most beautifull and well built Kitfox I have
seen ( I helped and visited him twice a week, so I can say this first hand)),
covered is completly "Poly" by the manual.
Also there is a Koala that is finished with latex paint and car paint in the
last hand (with plastifier to prevent the paint to "crack") when they are side
by side the only diference you will notice is the brighter colors in the koala
and the gloss. In fact the Koala has already 5 years of almost every week
end flying and looks like new... He is near 2 hours flying distance (his speed)
from our Club, and visits us several weekends a year.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
DJ Vegh <djv@imagedv.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh"
I'm using the polyfiber process... I've already bought the silver Poly-Spray
and am wondering... can I finish using the polyfiber process up to
Poly-Spray and then go latex color on top of that?!
I had intended on using polyfiber colors but damn!!! it's SOOO expensive.
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: House paint details
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower
>
> Hello Ted,
>
> I also used this method and works GREAT!.
>
> I used this method in my Ladder Pou, Nothing needed but latex and is
> UV protectant by itself.
>
> I used the latex (semigloss) paint as final color (blue and yellow),
> but two other builders here used automotive paint (with a plastifier to
> prevent the paint from "braking") as final coat over the latex, looks
> like show room finish.
> I like the finish of my paint (well, what can I say? :-)
>
> The best latex paint to use (and still is very inexpensive) is the one
> with more than 10 years waranty, this has the more UV protection.
>
> 3 years now in my plane and still perfect finish like new.
>
> here is one link to my project:
>
> http://www.fly5k.org/MEM/GaryPouchel/GaryGower1.htm
>
> I also have a photo page in Yahoo with the full construction process,
> there I have several photos of the painting process but the address was
> changed by them and I have it at my work computer, with other links
> related: Tests in direct sun for several years, etc.
>
> Will send you the info tomorrow. Is your new Piet readt to cover?
> Congratulations.
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower.
>
> --- Ted Brousseau wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau"
> >
> >
> > Dick N,
> >
> > I remember that you said you painted your plane with house paint. I
> > don't
> > remember that you gave a lot of details. If you did, just say so and
> > I will
> > look in the archives. If you didn't would you answer a couple of
> > questions?
> >
> > Did you use any primer on the dacron, i.e., poly brush, or anything
> > else?
> > Did you spray? If so, did you have to thin much? Did you use any UV
> > protection under it? Any platicizers added? Anything else you
> > learned that
> > would help someone following your lead?
> >
> > Thanks, Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 11/30/04 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
I have gotten ice here in Florida in the middle of the summer with almost
100 percent humidity and 90 degrees. I have gotten it on take off too. A
trick I use is to leave the carb heat on after the run up test. Try to
remember to push it off on take off. Don't know how much that little bit of
heat helps but I have never gotten ice on climb out when I did that.
Ted
> Hello Gang,
>
> I have flown behind many C-85's and 0200's and rarely
> had any problems with carb ice, even in icing
> conditions, burning auto-gas. I always mixed Marvel
> Mystery oil in the gas (as well as the oil). I don't
> know if this has anything to do with it or not, I'm
> just throwing this out for consideration. I would
> think that the oil would affect the freezing point of
> water and might have a positive affect. I agree, carb
> ice has always been a thorn in aviation's side.
>
> Doc
>
> >
>
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| Subject: | House paint details |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
Gary,
Almost ready to start covering. If I didn't keep thinking of new things to
add it would be sooner. Some day I am going to say enough is enough. Hope
all is well with you.
Ted
> Hello Ted,
>
> I also used this method and works GREAT!.
>
Is your new Piet readt to cover?
> Congratulations.
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower.
>
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