---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/05/04: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:20 AM - Re: GN-1 inspection in Indiana (John Ford) 2. 04:44 PM - GN-1 flight characteristics (Steve Ruse) 3. 07:59 PM - tube bending (Douwe Blumberg) 4. 08:10 PM - Re: tube bending (Jim Markle) 5. 09:25 PM - Re: tube bending (DJ Vegh) 6. 10:07 PM - Re: tube bending (Peter W Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:07 AM PST US From: "John Ford" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 inspection in Indiana --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" Charles Ruebeck is in Spencer, Indiana, if I'm not mistaken. I don't have any contact information for him though (someone else surely does). From what I'm told, he would be excellent. John John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> steve@wotelectronics.com Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:02:14 PM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" BlankI found a GN-1 in Indiana that I'm really interested in, the problem is I'm in Dallas and don't know anyone in the area that I would trust to perform an inspection. I will be in Minnesota for Christmas, and will likely make the trip down to Indiana to see the plane while I'm there. I don't know enough to inspect it myself though. DJ is already helping me out with this, but how can I find an A & P up there that I can trust to perform a competent inspection on the plane? Can anyone suggest someone up there, particularly someone familiar with Pietenpols? Will an IA perform a pre-purchase inspection? The plane is in northern Indiana, about 1hr from Chicago. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Steve Ruse Dallas, TX --- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:07 PM PST US From: "Steve Ruse" Subject: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 flight characteristics --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" BlankHow difficult is a Piet to handle on the ground with no experience? I got my taildragger endorsement in an L2 Taylorcraft in the last few months, I still only have about 25hrs of taildragger time. I soloed in the L2 after about 7 hours. Would I be asking for trouble soloing in a GN-1 with only an hour or so of instruction? I figured a Piet wouldn't be too hard to handle given the low speeds, but maybe the shorter tail will make it more tricky? Thanks for any tips! Steve Ruse Dallas, TX --- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:29 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: tube bending I just got my carb and intake for my model A. I'm using a Weber. The intake manifold is aluminum and needs modifying so that the carb sits low enough to ensure the proper head of fuel. I'd like to "cut and paste" a new manifold together using some of the old manifold sections. I can find the aluminum tubing of the same diameter (1.5 id with .25 wall) but need to figure out who can put some fairly sharp bends in it. I've read that these bends are put in using mandrels, but does anyone know what kind of company I would look for that could do this for me? It's too big and thick, and the bends are too sharp for me to attempt it, but I'm sure it's a piece of cake for someone with the right machinery. Thanks, Douwe douweblumberg@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:41 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tube bending Try a local, small, independent muffler shop....or some little machine shop that does stock car or some other kind of car racing that also builds their own cars...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: tube bending I just got my carb and intake for my model A. I'm using a Weber. The intake manifold is aluminum and needs modifying so that the carb sits low enough to ensure the proper head of fuel. I'd like to "cut and paste" a new manifold together using some of the old manifold sections. I can find the aluminum tubing of the same diameter (1.5 id with .25 wall) but need to figure out who can put some fairly sharp bends in it. I've read that these bends are put in using mandrels, but does anyone know what kind of company I would look for that could do this for me? It's too big and thick, and the bends are too sharp for me to attempt it, but I'm sure it's a piece of cake for someone with the right machinery. Thanks, Douwe douweblumberg@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:38 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tube bending get various bends already fre-fabbed and weld together your own. Thats what I did for my Corvair install. get it from Burns Stainless. They have various diameters and bends of 6061 tubing. http://www.burnsstainless.com/AluminumTube/aluminumtube.html DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: tube bending I just got my carb and intake for my model A. I'm using a Weber. The intake manifold is aluminum and needs modifying so that the carb sits low enough to ensure the proper head of fuel. I'd like to "cut and paste" a new manifold together using some of the old manifold sections. I can find the aluminum tubing of the same diameter (1.5 id with .25 wall) but need to figure out who can put some fairly sharp bends in it. I've read that these bends are put in using mandrels, but does anyone know what kind of company I would look for that could do this for me? It's too big and thick, and the bends are too sharp for me to attempt it, but I'm sure it's a piece of cake for someone with the right machinery. Thanks, Douwe douweblumberg@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:16 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: tube bending Muffler shops here in Aussie do not do mandrel bending as the norm. I found a company specializing in mandrel bends to do mine. Expensive but good. I would recommend buying pre bent 90s or 45s and welding them together. It's a much less expensive way. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi, Australia http://www.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tube bending Try a local, small, independent muffler shop....or some little machine shop that does stock car or some other kind of car racing that also builds their own cars...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: tube bending I just got my carb and intake for my model A. I'm using a Weber. The intake manifold is aluminum and needs modifying so that the carb sits low enough to ensure the proper head of fuel. I'd like to "cut and paste" a new manifold together using some of the old manifold sections. I can find the aluminum tubing of the same diameter (1.5 id with .25 wall) but need to figure out who can put some fairly sharp bends in it. I've read that these bends are put in using mandrels, but does anyone know what kind of company I would look for that could do this for me? It's too big and thick, and the bends are too sharp for me to attempt it, but I'm sure it's a piece of cake for someone with the right machinery. Thanks, Douwe douweblumberg@earthlink.net