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1. 04:15 AM - Re: Help Isabelle (Phillips, Jack)
2. 06:29 AM - what is level when flying (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 03:03 PM - Ward Aero external wind driven generator for sale (N321TX@wmconnect.com)
4. 04:47 PM - Torque Tube Rod (David Paulsen)
5. 05:16 PM - Re: Ward Aero external wind driven generator for sale (Steve Ruse)
6. 05:33 PM - Re: GN-1 flight characteristics (Land Shorter)
7. 08:07 PM - GN-1 flight characteristics (Ted Brousseau)
8. 11:04 PM - Re: GN-1 flight characteristics (Galen Hutcheson)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
Check out Flightsuits.com. I bought their leather flying helmet with
earphones built in and it works great. I've had a number of people
comment on how clear my transmissions are, surprising for an open
cockpit. Their address is:
http://www.flightsuits.com/open_leather.html
But I don't know if the Matronics website will let an internet address
go through
Jack Phillips, PE
Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development
Clinical Technologies and Services
Cardinal Health
Creedmoor, NC
(919) 528-5212
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From: Rcaprd@aol.com [mailto:Rcaprd@aol.com]
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Isabelle
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 12/7/04 10:36:23 AM Central Standard Time,
horzpool@goldengate.net writes:
<< I picked up an I Com A-23 >>
I have an I Com A-5 (Com only), and I think it is just about the best
radio
on the market.
Hey, while we're on this subject, has anyone ever found a headset /
leather helmet incorporated together, like the W W 2 helmets ? Maybe
even with
ANR (Active Noise Reduction). It would be a perfect Pietenpol
accessory.
After a few hours of wearing the headset, and cloth helmet with the
cutouts, my
ears become
very uncomfortable.
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | what is level when flying |
I'm building up my intake manifold (thanks for all the suggestions, got everything
needed from your sources!! what a great resource you all are!) I'm using
a weber carb on my "A" engine and it should be as close to horizontal as possible
during normal flight.
The plans call for a few degrees of downthrust already in the engine, and then
angling the carb forward even more and he says, he wants the carb level in flight.
What is horizontal on a piet during level flight. How many degrees down would
you say from the top longerons?
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| Subject: | Ward Aero external wind driven generator for sale |
I just listed an external air-driven wind generator on Ebay, item number
4510914846.
I had planned on using this on an Air Camper, but as some of you know, I sold
the Pietenpol a couple of months ago. These Ward Aero units aren't cheap, and
the "BUY IT NOW" price is $25 less than what I paid for it last year.
My plans were to mount this to the belly of the Air Camper with a quick
release device, allowing to use it only when needed to keep a battery charged when
taking a long trip. I figure, why fly around with extra drag and weight when
not needed, but this generator should be adequate to keep a 12 volt battery
charged that is feeding juice to a modest strobe power supply, a small
transponder, a handheld radio, two turtle doves and three geese a laying.
OK, I lied about the turtle doves and geese a laying, but the output seems
pretty good to me.
This unit appears to have been made in 1998.
I also listed a Trimble Flitemate handheld GPS on Ebay and an altenator for a
Cherokee PA-280-140 having a Lycoming 0-320.
Bid early and bid often.
S.B.
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Why does the bolt or rod that some of us have put though our straight though axles
have to be welded? I'm probably missing something obvious but I don't know
what. The rod can't jump out of the axle because there is a nut at the bottom
that will prevent it from coming up through the torque tube. Thanks. Dave
Paulsen
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| Subject: | Ward Aero external wind driven generator for sale |
Yikes, I had no idea they were so expensive. I'm going to need one if I end
up buying the GN-1 I'm looking at, I'll have to keep an eye on this.
Has anyone ever seen a homemade wind generator using a DC motor? Doesn't
seem like it would be too hard at all if you could create a decent propeller
for it.
Steve Ruse
Dallas, TX
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
N321TX@wmconnect.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:03 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ward Aero external wind driven generator for sale
I just listed an external air-driven wind generator on Ebay, item number
4510914846.
I had planned on using this on an Air Camper, but as some of you know, I
sold the Pietenpol a couple of months ago. These Ward Aero units aren't
cheap, and the "BUY IT NOW" price is $25 less than what I paid for it last
year.
My plans were to mount this to the belly of the Air Camper with a quick
release device, allowing to use it only when needed to keep a battery
charged when taking a long trip. I figure, why fly around with extra drag
and weight when not needed, but this generator should be adequate to keep a
12 volt battery charged that is feeding juice to a modest strobe power
supply, a small transponder, a handheld radio, two turtle doves and three
geese a laying.
OK, I lied about the turtle doves and geese a laying, but the output seems
pretty good to me.
This unit appears to have been made in 1998.
I also listed a Trimble Flitemate handheld GPS on Ebay and an altenator
for a Cherokee PA-280-140 having a Lycoming 0-320.
Bid early and bid often.
S.B.
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| Subject: | GN-1 flight characteristics |
Hey Oscar, got those VGs on yet? :)
Joa
www.landshorter.com
Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse"
Thanks for the tips everyone, I've been checking the archives, there is some
great information in there. Basically it sounds like Pietenpols are pretty
docile, but they tend to stall abruptly, which is aggravated by the fact
that they have a high amount of drag which causes them to slow down quickly.
One question I didn't see answered though: How much of a difference does the
GN-1 airfoil make in the stall characteristic? Obviously you still are going
to slow down fast, so I'm guessing it is still pretty abrupt. Does anyone
typically round out with just a hair of power to keep it from slowing down
so fast?
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| Subject: | GN-1 flight characteristics |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
Steve,
You CAN carry a little power into the landing and it helps smooth it out.
But, I don't recommend getting used to that procedure. What happens when
you have to make a dead stick landing when the engine quits? I land without
power at least 75% of the time so that there won't be any surprises if I
have to make a dead stick landing. (had a local EAA member do just that
last year after flying young eagles. Totaled his aircraft. I asked him how
many power off landings he had made. He said one and he didn't like it so
he never tried again. He landing in a smooth farm field and could have kept
it shiny side up if he had practiced). Like Chuck says, aim at a point on
the ground, carry speed on the approach and roundout 6 inches above the
ground and you will grease it on every time. How much speed on approach?
Each one is different, but start with a high speed and slowly taper off
until you find that sweet spot for your plane. Too much speed on approach
will simply mean you float a little down the runway. Too little speed on
approach will mean that when you pull back to roundout you test you bungees
because the descent is barely slowed down when it pancakes in.
Happy landings.
Ted
> Time: 09:45:02 PM PST US
> From: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 flight characteristics
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse"
<steve@wotelectronics.com>
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> Thanks for the tips everyone, I've been checking the archives, there is
some
> great information in there. Basically it sounds like Pietenpols are
pretty
> docile, but they tend to stall abruptly, which is aggravated by the fact
> that they have a high amount of drag which causes them to slow down
quickly.
> One question I didn't see answered though: How much of a difference does
the
> GN-1 airfoil make in the stall characteristic? Obviously you still are
going
> to slow down fast, so I'm guessing it is still pretty abrupt. Does anyone
> typically round out with just a hair of power to keep it from slowing down
> so fast?
>
> Thanks again for the tips!
>
> Steve Ruse
> Dallas, TX
>
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| Subject: | Re: GN-1 flight characteristics |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Steve,
I haven't flown a Pietenpol as yet, but I do have
hundreds of hours in antique biplanes. From what I
hear and have read here, it sounds like the Piet wing
causes the plane to handle much like that of a
biplane. All drag and lift and very little glide.
They are right about one thing, keep the nose down and
your airspeed up...all the way down to the ground and
then round out with a gentle touch. The second you
pull the nose of the biplane up without power, the
thing slows down like you have a drag chute on the
back end. Round out too high, and you won't like the
landing. If you see that you have rounded out too
high, a quick burst on the throttle will help you
salvage the landing though. Once you get used to this
type of airplane, I think you will like it because you
can control the landing much easier than you can in
say a Cessna 172 that wants to keep floating forever.
I loved the old biplanes and the way they flew. I
often used what I call a powered slip into landing.
Pretty frightening to watch from the ground, but I had
complete control of the plane all the way to touchdown
and could land on a dime almost everytime.
Barnstorming small fields on hot windless days you
needed that type of plane to do the job. I think the
Piet will be a fun plane to fly so just get you a nice
big GRASS airstrip or field and practice, practice,
practice...
Good luck and have lots of fun.
Doc
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