---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/17/04: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:32 AM - Re: OT - Pilatus lands on city street (walt evans) 2. 05:41 AM - (Michael D Cuy) 3. 08:32 AM - Re: registration requirements (Galen Hutcheson) 4. 08:41 AM - Re: Johnson Airspeed Indicator (Galen Hutcheson) 5. 02:36 PM - Christmas Reading (TBYH@aol.com) 6. 04:19 PM - Re: Christmas Reading (Richard L. Dery) 7. 07:53 PM - Re: Johnson Airspeed Indicator (Clif Dawson) 8. 09:47 PM - Re: Johnson Airspeed Indicator (Rcaprd@aol.com) 9. 11:03 PM - Re: Johnson Airspeed Indicator (Galen Hutcheson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:38 AM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street Saw the same thing last year when the Staten Island Ferry, in NY harbor, crashed into the nearby pier. We had been working on another boat nearby, and had left for the day when it happened. When I was watching the coverage on TV that afternoon, the News man interviewed a passenger getting off the boat and she said " Good thing we didn't sink cause there weren't enough life jackets on board". Next day I asked the head of the maintanence facility about it. He said the capacity of the ferry boat is 6,000 people, and there are over 7,000 lifejackets on board. Now what right does that TV station have to put out a lie like that without checking facts? They should be held accountable. Guess it makes people tune in. Go figure. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: N321TX@wmconnect.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street I read just the article and as someone who started working in TV news in 1973, the report typically balanced the idiot's narrowminded stupidity with positive coverage about the pilot's incredible feat. Many reporters seem to always look for the extreme (idiot) in telling one side of the story. (It sells newspapers and gets ratings on TV... sad but true.) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:17 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header 0.26 UPPERCASE_25_50 message body is 25-50% uppercase >Dennis-- this was on our Piet e-mail group that someone posted--- so true >sometimes ! >Walt Coffee a former used car salesman and bar owner in Kansas City had a >sign in his bar that said " SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY UNLESS THAY ARE NOT >HAPPY" >he also had a sigh that said "OUR SERVICE MAY BE BAD BUT AT LEAST IT'S SLOW" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:52 AM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=l90kEb6bbwBlYfLUqZihcjGonrMXB3PN52bVU0OpRcIPCToFS2VbuIgtdNDIhgozNYp/syyQaa8v8tD8QRKX05iZEZ1luN9T9Y6SZFwkyiwYwNt9nRAKj/FR5biM237I4gqh4s2oWib2rJUNA0HEsfwOrL1ElKDw5EJjuzmnqcM= ; From: Galen Hutcheson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: registration requirements --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson On my super modified Pitts, I had a sight gauge on the left "I" strut. tied to the sight gauge I had a short piect of colored knitting yarn. I used it to tell me when vertical movement was about to cease. When the airspeed got to near zero, the yarn would start to flutter. When the plane started to tail slide, the yarn would change directions. Very simple and very reliable. I used to get a lot of comments about that piece of yarn. When asked what it was for, I told them it was my "vertical speed indicator that tells me when the plane is flying backwards." That always brought some strange looks on their faces when I said that. Go figure. Doc --- Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > In a message dated 12/15/04 9:25:15 PM Central > Standard Time, > ralphhsd@itctel.com writes: > > << Also, is there a place I can find > a list of the minimum required gauges to have in > the cockpit. >> > > One of the indicators that I DO have, outside the > cockpit in the relative > wind, is an 'Angle of Attack Indicator'. It's just > a 3 foot piece of ribbon, > tied to the middle of the jury strut. More of a > conservasion piece than anything > else...it flutters around too much to give a good > indication of the angle of > attack. In actuallity, the ol' Piet lets me know > when she approaches the > 'Critical Angle of Attack', through the seat of my > pants. > > Chuck G. > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________ http://my.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:03 AM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=23foC1qdH7fgv/bvjWdPXEF4mfPbLXfVCvHOk8x9bemVtGHVpxMD5caRtIzOkQSFMRqf0uW2ZQKHOUm7rtsq1vUzGxrQlfVPD4/I/U2+zcU/ovdYMUtmyQZrRvTivox0Ng5H7G7hXLhYL2m4nE2O2W8onqDRjyg3fkDeqDKWTrA= ; From: Galen Hutcheson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Johnson Airspeed Indicator --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson Clif, is that a brass brazing rod that you used for a spring? Thanks. Doc --- Clif Dawson wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson > > > I have designed and built my own. When I have the > time > I will be calibrating them with my truck. Also there > are > others that have been made and used. One I recall > simply has three indications on it. One of which is > a rabbit. > > http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?Start=21&AlbumID=27 > > Scroll down a bit. > > Clif > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Johnson Airspeed > Indicator > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen > Hutcheson > > > > > Steve. a friend of mine has the plans and/or an > > indicator that he installed on a biplane he > designed > > and built. We are going to make one for my plane. > I > > will try to get the plans from him (he lives in > > another town) and when I get it I will be happy to > > share it with you. I will try to contact him in a > few > > days. > > > > Doc > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:41 PM PST US From: TBYH@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Christmas Reading Speaking of nightime, winter approaches with a sick airplane...find yourself a copy of Frederick Forsyth's book "The Shepherd." If you can, wait until Christmas eve to read this little book -- will only take you an hour to read. Involves an RAF DH Vampire pilot flying home on late Christmas eve 1957 from a base in Germany to England ...loses his radio, compass, etc. and as his fuel supply begins to get light, the fog closes in over "merry old England." You'll have to read it for "the rest of the story!" And it is a great story! Has been a favorite of mine for many years and I'll be reading it aloud at a local gallery on 12/23. Forsyth was himself an RAF pilot and also wrote "The Odessa File," "Day of the Jackal" and one other biggie that slips my mind at the moment...you won't be disappointed. Fred B. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:14 PM PST US From: "Richard L. Dery" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Christmas Reading --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard L. Dery" TBYH@aol.com wrote: > Speaking of nightime, winter approaches with a sick airplane...find > yourself a copy of Frederick Forsyth's book "/The Shepherd/." If you > can, wait until Christmas eve to read this little book -- will only take > you an hour to read. Involves an RAF DH Vampire pilot flying home on > late Christmas eve 1957 from a base in Germany to England ...loses his > radio, compass, etc. and as his fuel supply begins to get light, the fog > closes in over "merry old England." You'll have to read it for "the rest > of the story!" And it is a great story! Has been a favorite of mine for > many years and I'll be reading it aloud at a local gallery on 12/23. > Forsyth was himself an RAF pilot and also wrote "The Odessa File," "Day > of the Jackal" and one other biggie that slips my mind at the > moment...you won't be disappointed. > > Fred B. > > Years ago I read this story in Playboy magazine.The magazine usually had several illustrations of interesting "airframes" and so-so articles. I always remembered this story, but forgot the title. Thanks! Dick Dery ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:43 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Johnson Airspeed Indicator --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson It's brass rod from the local hobbyshop. It comes in a whole range of diameters so if I'm not happy with the flex on preliminary runs I can choose whatever size larger or smaller I want. I chose the brass primarily because it will corrode considerably less than piano wire and is easy to work with. Clif Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Johnson Airspeed Indicator > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson > > Clif, is that a brass brazing rod that you used for a > spring? Thanks. > > Doc ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:45 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Johnson Airspeed Indicator --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 12/17/04 10:41:39 AM Central Standard Time, wacopitts@yahoo.com writes: << Clif, is that a brass brazing rod that you used for a spring? >> Not to jump in here, but let me try to describe the Johnson ASI. It uses a .047" music wire, with 2 1/2 coils, and has a leg that is bent perpendicular to lock the coil from rotating, and is inserted into the back plate. The coil is 3/4" in diameter, and is spaced off the backing plate with a threaded thru bushing that is 3/8" long. From the center of the coil, to the tip of the pointer, is 7". The bushing that is in the center of the coil is 3/8" diameter and is about 3/32" long. The bolt is about a #6, and on each side of the coil is a plastic washer that is 7/8" O.D. The coil and pivot point is covered with a molded plastic teardrop shape fairing, and has a slot cut for the pointer to travel in. The sweep of the arc is 70. The backing plate with the indicator markings is .040 aluminum, probably 2024. The numbers are 20 thru 90 mph. The angle plate that the relative wind pushes against is 1 1/4" X 2 1/8" X .030" thick, with the pointer is on the 3/8" leg of this angle, which is next to the backing plate. To attach the music wire to the angle plate, it has a small aluminum block that measures 1/4" X 1/4" X 3/4". The .040" wire is drilled thru length wise, and has two #2 (or smaller) set screws to secure the plate, wire, and block. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:26 PM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=CFPY5z0SiUy9hFURS0rEB8aD/YJkJ7ajiKMT+DIjTIIOu5TeDvP2KKzyAf/ydFr2UsaLDgexJmmp/hqnNDYIu1CP6RH5sfE/gREwGyCdWqgntkq7KHjcAT/OVArrURYaaHX9KUI/QMUaKh6gxy8cO36WXTorI6tpCDv1qrJOtec= ; From: Galen Hutcheson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Johnson Airspeed Indicator --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson Thanks, I like the idea of using brass or even stainless steel. Doc --- Clif Dawson wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson > > > It's brass rod from the local hobbyshop. It comes in > a whole range of diameters so if I'm not happy with > the flex on preliminary runs I can choose whatever > size larger or smaller I want. I chose the brass > primarily because it will corrode considerably less > than piano wire and is easy to work with. > > Clif > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Johnson Airspeed > Indicator > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen > Hutcheson > > > > > Clif, is that a brass brazing rod that you used > for a > > spring? Thanks. > > > > Doc > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > >