---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/31/04: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:36 PM - New Pietenpol Forums (Sean Caranna) 2. 03:39 PM - Re: Repairman Certificate Tirade (Bert Conoly) 3. 07:45 PM - Re: Torque Tube fit (alexms1@comcast.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:35 PM PST US From: "Sean Caranna" Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Pietenpol Forums --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sean Caranna" I've started a new aircraft homebuilding forum at http://www.WingsForum.com "They" say that a picture is worth a thousand words. The ability to attach spreadsheets, documents, and CAD files can speak volumes. I am not asking anyone to leave this list. I'm just offering an additional resource that will offer easily accessible photo and data file content intergraded with the message threads. http://www.wingsforum.com also has form based email and private messaging that will nonpublic communications while protecting your email address from SPAM email harvesters. http://www.WingsForum.com was created because the email based groups just can't compete with the forum format for organization of topics, searching information already covered by a group, and relevancy of information presented. I can't tell you how many HOURS of my life have been wasted scrolling through off topic threads and information irrelevant to my search on Yahoo and MSN groups. Lets face it, if you are looking for info on your spar why should you need to scroll through 30 email post on firewalls 5 about rudders and 2 about nothing at all? At http://www.WingsForum.com you will find topics well organized, pictures and relevant files directly attached to their post, private messaging, and more all on one site. Forum membership is, and will always be, FREE. Try in out, it cost nothing, and you just might like it. If you don't like it just let me know how I can improve the site. Email Digest are available for those who prefer them. You can customize them for what forums you want to watch, if you want a short excerpt or full messages of up to 36,000 characters, and what time of day they will be delivered to you. Users just click the Digest link at the top of the page once logged in to enable them. Thanks for your consideration, Sean C. Caranna ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:54 PM PST US s=test1; d=earthlink.net; b=LSApeXS1coN2gVgkdEtQ+KVXikuR4xBejF1hfoOxDrshdUT7vjzb/XrdBxCb3RqZ; From: "Bert Conoly" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Repairman Certificate Tirade --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" > > Hello everybody. I was able to work out my problem in a rather unconventional way. It seems that the Tampa FSDO was extremely helpful after all. I , as some of you remember, had been told I was required to make a 8 hr round trip to Tampa FSDO to be "interviewed" and signed off for my repair man certificate. This after I payed a DAR $400 to inspect my plane. When I asked why this was happening and relayed that my adjoining FSDO (Atlanta) was not requiring this, I was told "because our manual " says we do it his way. Paraphrased of course. Well I've been on a tirade for two weeks about the inconsistent application of FAR requirements, use of DARs, bureacracy, the weather, anything else I could bitch about. As it turned out a very helpful person from the FAA arranged a meeting at a thrird location nearer my fair city. We exchanged my drivers license ( I proved I am who I am) for the official FAA sign off and I now possess a repairman's certificate for NX327BC without having to drive to Tampa for the 2 minute - 26 second ordeal. I might add that they WERE helpful after all - once I complained and showed my rear end. So as you all approach your inspections, contact your FSDO and talk with them. They are (or can be) very helpful. I practiced high speed (how high speed can you get in a Grega/Piet) taxiing today till I got tired of it. At one point she got tired of the ground and decided to take off. No surprises. I simply pulled power kept directional control with the rudder and let her settle right in on all three. I am amazed at how stable the Grega is. With the wide landing gear, it's just NOT a problem on the ground or during transition. The Piet I have flown had a narrower gear and was way more squirrely. Well happy New Year everybody - Talk next year! Bert http://bconoly.tripod.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:33 PM PST US From: alexms1@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Torque Tube fit Richard, When you say your torque tube does not fit just where does it not fit? I had no trouble placeing mine in for a temporary trial fit. I have not as yet placed the rudder bar as I am not sure as just what the distance from the seat front support it should be positioned. Other than that, Where is your problem? I may have a problem and not know it. Happy New Year. Alex S. -------------- Original message -------------- I just finished the rest of the welding on my torque tube and can't seem to get it to fit. From previous posts I new this was a problem so I mocked up the torque tube with wood and plastic. The fit was going to be tight but seemed to work out. Unfortunately the real thing wont fit. I know that Walt Evans and a couple of others have notched the rear seat to clear the rear pulley support, but I hate to do this if their is another solution. Has everyone else run into this same problem or is it just me? If you have what were the solutions? It looks like if I make the side leg openings in the front seat wider than the 6 inches shown on the plans, it may allow the aileron horn enough clearance to get the torque tube in, but I don't want to hog out more wood if it doesn't work. Richard Schreiber lmforge@earthlink.net Richard, When you say your torque tube does not fit just where does it not fit? I had no trouble placeing mine in for a temporary trial fit. I have not as yet placed the rudder bar as I am not sure as just what the distance from the seat front support it should be positioned. Other than that, Where is your problem? I may have a problem and not know it. Happy New Year. Alex S. -------------- Original message -------------- I just finished the rest of the welding on my torque tube and can't seem to get it to fit. From previous posts I new this was a problem so I mocked up the torque tube with wood and plastic. The fit was going to be tight but seemed to work out. Unfortunately the real thing wont fit. I know that Walt Evans and a couple of others have notched the rear seat to clear the rear pulley support, but I hate to do this if their is another solution. Has everyone else run into this same problem or is it just me? If you have what were the solutions? It looks like if I make the side leg openings in the front seat wider than the 6 inches shown on the plans, it may allow the aileron horn enough clearance to get the torque tube in, but I don't want to hog out more wood if it doesn't work. Richard Schreiber lmforge@earthlink.net