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1. 07:12 AM - Re: General metal working question (Rick Holland)
2. 07:13 AM - Joy stick question (Rick Holland)
3. 07:33 AM - Re: Joy stick question (Phillips, Jack)
4. 12:09 PM - Re: Torque Tube fit (john s)
5. 12:24 PM - Re: Torque Tube fit (Phillips, Jack)
6. 01:08 PM - Piet Cont. motor mount on ebay (Michael D Cuy)
7. 04:03 PM - Re: Joy stick question (Rick Holland)
8. 08:45 PM - Re: Torque Tube fit (Richard Schreiber)
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| Subject: | Re: General metal working question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sounds like most people recommend flatening 4130 tubing by simply
smashing it in a vice cold. I will give it a try on some scrap first.
Thanks
Rick H
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:06:27 -0800, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
>
> Clamp a stick to the flattened face and eyeball it vertical
> to the vice jaws and hold with just a little pressure. hold
> a stick or ruler to one vice jaw face and sight the two sticks.
> Repeat until both line up. Then squish away.
>
> I have two 3/4" X 3/4" sticks 2' long, one white, one black
> hanging on my tool wall. They are known by the ancients as
> winding sticks.
>
> http://www.robcosman.ca/RC_Jigs.htm
>
> http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/browseproducts/Winding-Sticks.html
>
> Clif
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
> >
> .I have flattened one end of my
> > rudder bar and I'm in doubt as to how to guarantee that when the other end
> > is flattened, it will wind up in the same plane as the first. Any
> > advice???....Carl Vought
> >
>
>
>
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Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Joy stick question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Are the 2 fork bottom ends of the joysticks drilled 1/4" for the 1/4"
bolt or 3/8" to go over the 3/8" rod which is welded inside the torque
tube?
Thanks
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Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Joy stick question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
I drilled and reamed mine 1/4". If you welded the 3/8" tube to the
torque tube, and had 3/8" holes in the stick fork, how would you get it
over the ends of the tube?
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Are the 2 fork bottom ends of the joysticks drilled 1/4" for the 1/4"
bolt or 3/8" to go over the 3/8" rod which is welded inside the torque
tube?
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Re: Torque Tube fit |
What if you install the torque tube before the seats are installed? Does this
create some other problem?
I noticed that in the original plans, an aileron horn is not mounted on the torque
tube. Instead, the control cables attache to lugs welded to the stick. It
looks like this installation can be completed after the seats are installed.
Would appreciate any comments you folks have on these thoughts, so I'll know if
I'm missing something.
Thanks for all the great info passed along on this site.
John S
----- Original Message -----
From: alexms1@comcast.net
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Torque Tube fit
Rick,
Are you building the extended fuselage? That is what mine is and perhaps that
has something to do with it. I have no problem installing my torque tube controls.
Alex
-------------- Original message --------------
Alex,
The fit problem I had with my torque tube was due to its length. When I tried
to fit the completed torque tube (Pulley supports and aileron horn welded in
place) the aileron horn and front pulley support hit the front seat back before
I could get the rear of the torque tube to clear the front of the rear seat.
What I finally wound up doing is putting a 3/4" grove with a rotary sander
in the front cross brace of the rear seat. Since the center of my rear seat is
removable, I am going to just rebrace the seat and put a small cover over the
hole. I think this is what others have done in the past that have had the same
problem. The misfit was not off by much, so I am sure that on some Piet's the
torque tube goes in fine.
I spent today mounting my tailfeathers and trying to locate the ideal position
for the elevator bellcrank to get rid of cable slack and rubbing of the cables
on the horizontal stab.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
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To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: 12/31/04 9:44:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Torque Tube fit
Richard,
When you say your torque tube does not fit just where does it not fit? I
had no trouble placeing mine in for a temporary trial fit. I have not as yet
placed the rudder bar as I am not sure as just what the distance from the seat
front support it should be positioned. Other than that, Where is your problem?
I may have a problem and not know it.
Happy New Year.
Alex S.
-------------- Original message --------------
I just finished the rest of the welding on my torque tube and can't seem
to get it to fit. From previous posts I new this was a problem so I mocked up
the torque tube with wood and plastic. The fit was going to be tight but seemed
to work out. Unfortunately the real thing wont fit. I know that Walt Evans
and a couple of others have notched the rear seat to clear the rear pulley support,
but I hate to do this if their is another solution. Has everyone else run
into this same problem or is it just me? If you have what were the solutions?
It looks like if I make the side leg openings in the front seat wider than
the 6 inches shown on the plans, it may allow the aileron horn enough clearance
to get the torque tube in, but I don't want to hog out more wood if it doesn't
work.
Richard Schreiber
lmforge@earthlink.net
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That's what I did, John - installed the torque tube and then built the
seats around it. No problems that way.
Jack Phillips
Fixing the other problems in NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: john s [mailto:smoyer98@snip.net]
What if you install the torque tube before the seats are installed?
Does this create some other problem?
I noticed that in the original plans, an aileron horn is not mounted on
the torque tube. Instead, the control cables attache to lugs welded to
the stick. It looks like this installation can be completed after the
seats are installed.
Would appreciate any comments you folks have on these thoughts, so I'll
know if I'm missing something.
Thanks for all the great info passed along on this site.
John S
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| Subject: | Piet Cont. motor mount on ebay |
m>
No bids yet on this guys. Don't know who has it up, but be super careful
esp. that the firewall bolt hole
pattern will line up with your fuselage mounting fittings. (or that he
thinks it is for a Piet and it is really for a GN-1 or
vice-versa)
Mike C.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4515967655&category=26439&sspagename=WDVW
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| Subject: | Re: Joy stick question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Bend the forks a bit.
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:33:16 -0800, Phillips, Jack
<jphillip@alarismed.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
>
> I drilled and reamed mine 1/4". If you welded the 3/8" tube to the
> torque tube, and had 3/8" holes in the stick fork, how would you get it
> over the ends of the tube?
>
> Jack Phillips
> -----Original Message-----
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>
> Are the 2 fork bottom ends of the joysticks drilled 1/4" for the 1/4"
> bolt or 3/8" to go over the 3/8" rod which is welded inside the torque
> tube?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Rick Holland
>
>
>
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Re: Torque Tube fit |
Alex,
I am also building the long fuselage. As I said before, the torque tube came really
close to fitting. If I had made the leg openings a little wider, or the triangle
opening under the front set a little higher it would have probably fit
just fine. The notch I put in the middle of the rear seat is only 1/2 inch deep.
When I put the set bottom back on it is virtually invisible.
Rick
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