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1. 06:10 AM - aileron control cables (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 11:36 AM - Re: good place to get engine hoist? (Hodgson, Mark O)
3. 05:19 PM - Re: Bunji Struts (Chet's Mail)
4. 06:00 PM - Re: Sat in my first Peit today (horzpool@goldengate.net)
5. 06:10 PM - Re: Deke Slayton Museum Pietenpol (horzpool@goldengate.net)
6. 07:31 PM - Re: Horizontal and Vertical stab fittings (Clif Dawson)
7. 07:39 PM - Re: Sat in my first Peit today (Mark Blackwell)
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| Subject: | aileron control cables |
Well, I don't get attachments since I'm on the list digest, but rather than
wait for photoshare, I've attached some photos and hope they shows what I'm
talking about. P1080012 shows the removable access panel on the underside
of my wing center section that allows disconnecting the aileron control
cable that runs between the two wings. Removing this panel opens up a
"slot" in the aft underside of the center section. The turnbuckle is up
inside this slot.
The other cables are accessed via regular round access covers in the wing
panels, where disconnect links are installed in the cables. You can see
those in the second picture (PB130011), along with the dried blood on the
underside of the center section "flop". The blood is from pilot Charlie's
forehead, having snapped off the ignition key with his forehead when the
plane stopped suddenly and went over on its back. A little tip for when
you're laying out your instrument panel!
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: good place to get engine hoist? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu>
Per usual with this list, thanks to all for the good comments!
Turns out that Bill Rewey, a Brodhead regular and the author of a number
of useful Piet documents, actually has plans for an adequate wooden
engine hoist that should cost a whole lot less and allow me to generate
a little more sawdust in my basement as well. A list member clued me in
to this; then I took a second look at the packet of materials I had
actually gotten from Bill at Brodhead last summer, and voila--something
I had overlooked completely last July! Got to organize my Piet
literature better (maybe after I've built the beast). Or as they say in
systems work, "Start coding; we'll get you the specs as soon as we know
what they are..." Or as I might say: "Duhhhh..."
Mark Hodgson
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| Subject: | Re: Bunji Struts |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
Chuck:
Thank you so much this will be a great help on my piet as of right now all I
have is the fusealodge and tail group.
Question: We will be traveling back from a ski trip in Colorado this next
week, the15th through the 22nd. I would like to stop and pick up the struts
on Sunday the 23rd. If this would be possible. If not.
My adddress is:
Chet Hartley
200 Franklin St.
Holts Summit, MO 65043-3504
Home Phone is 573-896-5405
Cell phone is 573-645-0534
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| Subject: | Re: Sat in my first Peit today |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: horzpool@goldengate.net
Mark
I built a fuselage at Sun n Fun acouple of years ago that might suit you.
Take the basic long fuse plan and trty substituting the measurements for
the forward bridge decks to the short fuselage plan. I also reclined my
rear seat by 1" for comfort. You shold be able to get an additional 8-9"
in this process. It made all the diffrence to me. 5'11" & 200 lb.
Dick N.
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell <aerialphotos@dp.net>
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> Well some things are just never what they seem. Im about 6ft or so and
> about 220, and shoe horned myself into a Peit this afternoon. I was
> simply too big to fit in the airplane. Knees hit the panel. Couldn't
> reach the heel brakes. Head was higher that it probably really needed
> to be for such an airplane and reaching the throttle required the same
> technique as driving with a window open and an arm hanging out the
> window in the breeze.
>
> Now building one of the stock ones is out of the question, but did
> anyone ever come up with plans based on the orginal that would be for a
> guy the size of Bernie?
>
> Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Deke Slayton Museum Pietenpol |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: horzpool@goldengate.net
Fred
If you use those Harley wheels be sure to start with the newer models with
the sealed bearings. I am out out of town now but check the archives on
this under "Harley wheels" I have posted some pics and discussed this in
the past. Or if you want further info e-mail me direct, I have lots on
Harley parts.
Dick N.
> According to the La Crosse Tribune newspaper (La Crosse, Wis.) the other
> day
> a Pietenpol Air Camper has been donated to the Deke Slayton Museum in
> Sparta,
> Wis. Sparta is 25 miles east of La Crosse on I-90. The Piet has been
> suspended
> from the ceiling of the museum. I don't know who donated the Piet but will
> check it out, get some pics and report later.
>
> For the younger Piet builders, Deke Slayton was one of the original
> Mercury
> program astronauts but did not fly due to a suspected heart murmur -- he
> did,
> however, fly later on one of the Apollo/Skylab/Soyuz (I believe that's
> correct)
> missions. Deke was originally from Sparta and flew P-51s in WW2. He died a
> few years ago after heading up a private space launch venture that was
> similar
> in vision to Burt Rutan's enterprise.
>
> FWIW -- I flipped my Piet fuselage right side up on the bench this past
> week.
> I am now in the process of adding the top cross braces and will add
> instrument panels, controls, seats and rear fairing in the coming weeks...
>
> BTW, has anyone considered using the solid aluminum disc wheels as
> installed
> on the Harley Davidson "Fat Boy" motorcycles in recent years. There are
> many
> of these wheels currently for sale on e-Bay at reasonable prices. They
> look
> 1920s period, at least they do to me (especially if they were painted to
> match
> the airplane). I don't know what the big Harleys weigh, but I suspect
> these are
> much stronger than a spoked motorcycle wheel and I would think also
> able to
> withstand a considerable side load. As they are aluminum, they must also
> be
> relatively light. I'd be interested in others' thoughts on this wheel
> possibility, especially if anyone has used them or seen them used.
>
> Regards to all,
> Fred B.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal and Vertical stab fittings |
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
How about finishing and mounting everything except the rudder
Then you can mount the bottom hinge, rudder side, to fit the
fuselage side.
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Malley" <jgmalley@comcast.net>
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> Due to the overlap of fabric along the edges and to the fabric tape which
> you will be placing over that overlap, the total thickness of the multiple
> layers of fabric is surprising. Fortunately, the only critical implication
> is the spacing of the bottom rudder hinge. The fin can be raised nearly
1/4
> inch by the fabric between it and the stab and the stab and the fuselage.
> While one washer as a spacer is a good start, you might want to double
that
> and/or make your rudder hinges adjustable.
> Jim Malley
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| Subject: | Re: Sat in my first Peit today |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell <aerialphotos@dp.net>
Thanks for all those that have responded. I am sure you could modify
the plans, but that really was not what I was looking for. Though it
might work, when you modify plans you open up a whole can of worms and
the proven nature of the design becomes something that is totally
untested. I do not have the engineering expertise to be able to do
that, and was hoping someone had.
I would need more than just more cockpit room. The wing would need to
be raised for me to see and getting in the front would be a physical
impossiblity without some changes. I hoped someone had essentially a
different set of plans that had been reviewed and used for some time in
a number of airplanes.
Though it looks like fun a Piet may not be the right airplane for me.
horzpool@goldengate.net wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: horzpool@goldengate.net
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>Mark
>I built a fuselage at Sun n Fun acouple of years ago that might suit you.
>Take the basic long fuse plan and trty substituting the measurements for
>the forward bridge decks to the short fuselage plan. I also reclined my
>rear seat by 1" for comfort. You shold be able to get an additional 8-9"
>in this process. It made all the diffrence to me. 5'11" & 200 lb.
>Dick N.
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