Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 01/31/05


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:11 AM - Piet in museum (Oscar Zuniga)
     2. 11:40 AM - Japanese Pietenpol Air Camper (Michael D Cuy)
     3. 05:30 PM - Leading Edge Ply (Peter W Johnson)
     4. 06:18 PM - Re: Leading Edge Ply (walt evans)
     5. 07:44 PM - continental A65in "Black Piet" (Les Schubert)
     6. 08:45 PM - Re: continental A65in "Black Piet" (Bert Conoly)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:11:10 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Piet in museum
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> There is a Piet in the air museum in Liberal, Kansas. Interesting white paint scheme. Pictures at http://www.cityofliberal.com/airmuseum/aircraft/homebuilt/index.html Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 11:40:29 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Japanese Pietenpol Air Camper
    Thru another builder who contacted me, I learned that a glider pilot/mechanic named Mita San near Tokyo built an Air Camper years ago and never finished it. He intends to someday but for now has built this yellow electric r/c Piet which he has flown off the sand beaches of Tokyo bay ! Tora Tora Pietenpol Air Camper ! Mike


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    Time: 05:30:10 PM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Leading Edge Ply
    Hi Guys, I have just had my first major woodworking cock up. I have been trying to glue the leading edge ply to one of the outer wing sections of a three piece wing. I started by making up the whole length from four pieces of ply scarfe jointed together. I loosely attached the top of the ply to the upper spar of the wing and applied many wet towels along the leading edge bend line. I thought of gluing it all at one time but decided to do the top first, let that dry and then do the bottom. I glued the top part, let it dry and I got as far as applying the glue to the bottom part yesterday afternoon but could not get the ply to fit around the LE properly. I presume I had not bent it enough. It was becoming a real mess so I removed the ply totally from top and bottom and will have to start again. The glue works well. I will have a lot of cleaning up to do on the wing rib leading edges! How did you guys do yours? did you glue it all as one piece? or one top and another on the bottom? or in pieces to butt joint at the ribs?...... Any tips or a blow by blow account of how you managed it would be gratefully received? Many thanks Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com <http://www.cpc-world.com/>


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    Time: 06:18:44 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Leading Edge Ply
    Peter, I borrowed someone elses idea with cutting a plastic jug (either Chlorox or a white jug from cat litter) into strips about 3/4" wide on the band saw. After glueing with T-88 simply stapled through the strips into the ply, into the rib. Next day , the glue doesn't stick to the plastic, and mainly the plastic stops the staples from making a dent in the ply. When using the light staples only 1/4' long, the strips could be grabbed at the end and pulled in a long strip to remove the staples. didn't scarff the joint, just cut the length to center on a rib center where necessary. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter W Johnson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Leading Edge Ply Hi Guys, I have just had my first major woodworking cock up. I have been trying to glue the leading edge ply to one of the outer wing sections of a three piece wing. I started by making up the whole length from four pieces of ply scarfe jointed together. I loosely attached the top of the ply to the upper spar of the wing and applied many wet towels along the leading edge bend line. I thought of gluing it all at one time but decided to do the top first, let that dry and then do the bottom. I glued the top part, let it dry and I got as far as applying the glue to the bottom part yesterday afternoon but could not get the ply to fit around the LE properly. I presume I had not bent it enough. It was becoming a real mess so I removed the ply totally from top and bottom and will have to start again. The glue works well. I will have a lot of cleaning up to do on the wing rib leading edges! How did you guys do yours? did you glue it all as one piece? or one top and another on the bottom? or in pieces to butt joint at the ribs?...... Any tips or a blow by blow account of how you managed it would be gratefully received? Many thanks Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com


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    Time: 07:44:33 PM PST US
    From: Les Schubert <leskarin@telus.net>
    Subject: continental A65in "Black Piet"
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert <leskarin@telus.net> I was sitting in my almost completed Piet today running the engine and observed that the engine seems to go rich as you come off idle up to about 1100 rpm, over that it then revs up nicely. idles fine at about 600-700 rpm with no indication of overrichness. Starts quite nicely with the throttle closed with one shot of prime. The engine was at about 60 F and the outside air temp was about 35 F when it started. I assume that this flat spot and slight black smoke as you speed it up is a indication of incorrect float level. I have installed the new delrin needle with the recommended float weight change. I would appreciate any sage advice from someone with more experience than I. I should be ready to test fly in a week or so if I don't have huge issues to deal with. Just need to final fit the wings, do the weight and balance final, and take it to the airport. I have a experience tail dragger pilot lined up for the first flights


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    Time: 08:45:40 PM PST US
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    From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: continental A65in "Black Piet"
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net> Les. I've seen this too. It seems to be a function of temperature. It doesn't do it if the ambient temp is over 50 F. I've heard some folks say this is common with A-65s. I'm interested in responses here , too. I'm still waiting on some reasonable winds. All dressed up with no where to go! BC http://bconoly.tripod.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Schubert" <leskarin@telus.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: continental A65in "Black Piet" > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert <leskarin@telus.net> > > I was sitting in my almost completed Piet today running the engine and > observed that the engine seems to go rich as you come off idle up to about > 1100 rpm, over that it then revs up nicely. idles fine at about 600-700 rpm > with no indication of overrichness. Starts quite nicely with the throttle > closed with one shot of prime. The engine was at about 60 F and the outside > air temp was about 35 F when it started. I assume that this flat spot and > slight black smoke as you speed it up is a indication of incorrect float > level. I have installed the new delrin needle with the recommended float > weight change. I would appreciate any sage advice from someone with more > experience than I. I should be ready to test fly in a week or so if I don't > have huge issues to deal with. Just need to final fit the wings, do the > weight and balance final, and take it to the airport. I have a experience > tail dragger pilot lined up for the first flights > >




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