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1. 06:13 AM - Re: project update (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
2. 09:00 AM - Re: project update (Bernard Lefebvre)
3. 09:44 AM - Re: started some covering (DJ Vegh)
4. 10:28 AM - Re: started some covering (Jack Phillips)
5. 11:53 AM - Re: Project Update (Jack Phillips)
6. 03:38 PM - Re: started some covering (Rcaprd@aol.com)
7. 07:31 PM - Re: started some covering (Isablcorky@aol.com)
8. 07:53 PM - Re: started some covering - stitching (DJ Vegh)
9. 09:03 PM - Der Faker Fokker is for sale! (Matt Lansford)
10. 10:03 PM - Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! (Steve Ruse)
11. 10:10 PM - Re: started some covering (Les Schubert)
12. 11:43 PM - Re: started some covering (Clif Dawson)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Mike,
Finally got all of N-1033B recovered in Stits system after welding rebuild
of wreck damage, looks great awaiting paint job and assembly. The guy who
built this all metal quasi-Piete did a heck of a good job accounting for
making potentially useful the payload available from the Aeronca wings
(1300 lbs). He moved CG back 10" by extending the longerons to 168" and
leaning the cabanes backward. CG 12"-20" of chord loaded envelope currently
fall directly over the front seat passengers belt buckle. With O-235 we're
currently welding up new motor mount, and hope to finish welding of new
wing lift struts this week. Plane wreck back in 1996 had been due to nut
coming off of one of the pistons on an C-85, knocking off the no. 4 cyc
inflight, corn field landing. Maybe in a couple years,(after global
warming makes AK as hot as FL, where it's 70F and sunny for superbowl
sunday) I'll bring it back to Homer and see if it'll haul tundra tires and
1/4 of a moose.
Gordon Bowen
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From: Mike Luther luther@gci.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: project update
Picture of my Piet up on an Aero Lift at the Fed Ex Trade show last May.
I am currently epoxy priming all of the metal pieces and getting ready
to cover.
Mike Luther
NX1953M
Anchorage Alaska
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| Subject: | Re: project update |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bernard Lefebvre" <napo@sympatico.ca>
Mike, what kind of wheels do you have on the landing gear of your piet?
Bernie P. Lefebvre
Vald'Or, Quebec
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Luther" <luther@gci.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: project update
> Picture of my Piet up on an Aero Lift at the Fed Ex Trade show last May.
>
> I am currently epoxy priming all of the metal pieces and getting ready
> to cover.
>
> Mike Luther
> NX1953M
> Anchorage Alaska
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: started some covering |
yeah... rib stitching is really not needed on the tail of the Piet, but I figure
I'm gonna need to do it anyway on the wings so I may as well try it out. Plus
I kinda like the look of the stitches and tapes.
I'll pull out the Poly-Fiber video later today and will attempt to stitch this
evening.
DJ
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From: Les Schubert
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: started some covering
DJ
Good for you. I covered in two pieces, one each side. As far as I know rib stitching
on the horizontals and vertical are optional at the speed of the Piet,
check with the manufacturers instructions.
At 06:57 PM 05/02/2005 -0700, you wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
today was such a beautiful day. blue sky, 75=B0, slight breeze. All the
rich dudes out at Falcon Field were flying thier T-6's, T-28's and Stearmans.
I figured why should they have all the fun. I decided to get out of my "N74DV
misery pit" and do something. Cleaned out the shop and tried my hand at covering
the vertical stab.
I can see this is going to be a bit of a learning curve, but it seems like
I'll catch the hang of it. Vertical stab is covered but still needs to be stitched
and tapes applied.
I think I've conjured up a small burst of motivation so I need to ride the
wave and go with it. Tomorrow I cover the horiz. stab.
ohhh a question..... should I be covering the vert and horiz stabs with one
piece or 2 pieces (one on each side) ? I started out doing it as one piece
but screwed up so now the vert stab is in 2 pieces.... is this a no-no?
DJ Vegh
N74DV back in progress (for the time being)
Mesa, AZ
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| Subject: | started some covering |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Hi DJ,
I did mine with two pieces each. I also found it useful to use the bias
tapes when taping around the cureve on the top of the vertical stab.
Jack
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:58 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: started some covering
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
today was such a beautiful day. blue sky, 75, slight breeze. All the
rich dudes out at Falcon Field were flying thier T-6's, T-28's and
Stearmans. I figured why should they have all the fun. I decided to get
out of my "N74DV misery pit" and do something. Cleaned out the shop and
tried my hand at covering the vertical stab.
I can see this is going to be a bit of a learning curve, but it seems like
I'll catch the hang of it. Vertical stab is covered but still needs to be
stitched and tapes applied.
I think I've conjured up a small burst of motivation so I need to ride the
wave and go with it. Tomorrow I cover the horiz. stab.
ohhh a question..... should I be covering the vert and horiz stabs with one
piece or 2 pieces (one on each side) ? I started out doing it as one piece
but screwed up so now the vert stab is in 2 pieces.... is this a no-no?
DJ Vegh
N74DV back in progress (for the time being)
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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Spruce is what I used, Fred. The spruce struts were the only part of the
undercarriage that wasn't damaged during my recent forced landing. Mine are
laminated of 1/4" thick pieces of spruce, bonded with resorcinol glue. One
advantage of the laminations (in addition to greatly increased strength and
resistance to splitting) is the laminations give you a handy guide to use
when sanding down the airfoil shape on the struts.
Jack Phillips
Finishing the repairs to the right aileron today
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of TBYH@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Project Update
I started building the fuselage in early November and have it all together
including turtledeck and am finishing up work on seats. Floor is on, of
course. I haven't put the plywood skins on front sides of fuselage yet as I
followed somebody else's example of leaving it off until the seats and
controls are all figured out and installed -- makes for easier access.
Control stick assembly is next along with landing gear. Hope to cut out
steel fitings this week and have it on gear before long. Will post some pics
one of these days...
Meanwhile it is supposed to be 54 degrees today here in the American Siberia
(Wis.) and so I'm thinking about that Model A engine out in the garage.
Needs to be totally rebuilt for aircraft use and warm weather makes it easy
to mess around in the garage...
By the way, the plans call for spruce for landing gear legs/struts (straight
axle) -- is this what most use?
Regards,
Fred B.
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| Subject: | Re: started some covering |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
I wonder where the rumor started that the tail of the Pietenpol does not need
rib stitching. I believe it started 6 or 7 years ago. The empenage DOES
need to be rib stitched. It is in the prop wash, and according to any manual,
the spacing is even closer together, where stitches are in the prop wash. The
tail takes quite a beating from the spirialing slipstream. We need to put a
halt to this dangerous rumor.
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: started some covering |
Ditto
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: started some covering - stitching |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
no worries Chuck... I'm stitching.
In fact I just finished stitching the vertical stab. I played my Polyfiber
DVD, pausing and rewinding and playing as the knot was shown. After the 3rd
time of watching the knot being tied I had it. I managed to do the
remaining knots on my tail by memory. It's so funny how every one says you
will easily remember how to do the knot once you actually do it. I thought
for sure I was going to have a hard time with it, but it's true. It's a
really easy knot to remember and complete. wooohooo!
I just laid my tapes over the knots/ribs and am waiting for it to dry then
I'll do the spanwise tapes.... and then the vertical is done.
wow! this is a really big kick for my lack of motivation latley. I've got
a good boost and it should maintain long enough for me to get the entire set
of tail feathers covered and complete up to silver.
DJ Vegh
N74DV (with a covered vertical tail... yeehaw)
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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| Subject: | Der Faker Fokker is for sale! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Matt Lansford" <lansford@rgv.rr.com>
Check it out! http://www.texasairmuseum.com/pietenpol/index.htm
Matt
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| Subject: | Der Faker Fokker is for sale! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Wow...neat plane. The only thing I would be afraid of is the cost to keep
the radial engine going. From my (very limited) experience, they are
anything but cheap, especially when they are rare. Does anyone here know
much about the Lambert radial?
Steve Ruse
Dallas, TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt
Lansford
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale!
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Matt Lansford" <lansford@rgv.rr.com>
Check it out! http://www.texasairmuseum.com/pietenpol/index.htm
Matt
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| Subject: | Re: started some covering |
<001301c50b47$85d41720$edf61e41@ATO>
<5.1.0.14.0.20050205195137.0272a8d0@pop.telus.net>
I found that when it came to rib stitching the wings it went really quickly
with a good helper/ assistant/ partner. I was fortunate in that I was able
to recruit my wife . We set the wing up on edge with one of us on each
side. Towards the end we were doing a rib in 15 minutes and we were still
speaking to each other. Now the first rib took a lot longer (about an
hour). I used the poly fiber system too.
Les
At 10:44 AM 06/02/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>yeah... rib stitching is really not needed on the tail of the Piet, but I
>figure I'm gonna need to do it anyway on the wings so I may as well try it
>out. Plus I kinda like the look of the stitches and tapes.
>
>I'll pull out the Poly-Fiber video later today and will attempt to stitch
>this evening.
>
>DJ
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:leskarin@telus.net>Les Schubert
>To: <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:55 PM
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: started some covering
>
>DJ
>Good for you. I covered in two pieces, one each side. As far as I know rib
>stitching on the horizontals and vertical are optional at the speed of the
>Piet, check with the manufacturers instructions.
>
>
>At 06:57 PM 05/02/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh"
>><<mailto:djv@imagedv.com>djv@imagedv.com>
>>
>>today was such a beautiful day. blue sky, 75=B0, slight breeze. All the
>>rich dudes out at Falcon Field were flying thier T-6's, T-28's and
>>Stearmans. I figured why should they have all the fun. I decided to
>>get out of my "N74DV misery pit" and do something. Cleaned out the shop
>>and tried my hand at covering the vertical stab.
>>
>>I can see this is going to be a bit of a learning curve, but it seems
>>like I'll catch the hang of it. Vertical stab is covered but still needs
>>to be stitched and tapes applied.
>>
>>I think I've conjured up a small burst of motivation so I need to ride
>>the wave and go with it. Tomorrow I cover the horiz. stab.
>>
>>ohhh a question..... should I be covering the vert and horiz stabs with
>>one piece or 2 pieces (one on each side) ? I started out doing it as one
>>piece but screwed up so now the vert stab is in 2 pieces.... is this a no-no?
>>
>>DJ Vegh
>>N74DV back in progress (for the time being)
>>Mesa, AZ
>>www.imagedv.com/aircamper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: started some covering |
Save this in a secure place Chuck. That will save you having
to do a new one a couple of years from now. It seems that
we have gone through this before a few times over the years.
Is it the knotting that's bothering folks? here's a little jig that
can give you practice before the real thing;
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rcaprd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: started some covering
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> I wonder where the rumor started that the tail of the Pietenpol does not
need
> rib stitching. I believe it started 6 or 7 years ago. The empenage DOES
> need to be rib stitched. It is in the prop wash, and according to any
manual,
> the spacing is even closer together, where stitches are in the prop wash.
The
> tail takes quite a beating from the spirialing slipstream. We need to put
a
> halt to this dangerous rumor.
>
> Chuck Gantzer
> NX770CG
>
>
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