Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/08/05


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 03:05 AM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (Jack Phillips)
     2. 03:07 AM - Re: HVLP reccomendations (Jack Phillips)
     3. 05:13 AM - Re: started some covering (FTLovley@aol.com)
     4. 05:16 AM - Re: started some covering (FTLovley@aol.com)
     5. 05:38 AM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (Michael D Cuy)
     6. 06:55 AM - Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! (Steve Ruse)
     7. 07:31 AM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (Rick Holland)
     8. 08:00 AM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (Hodgson, Mark O)
     9. 08:05 AM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (alexms1@comcast.net)
    10. 08:16 AM - Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! (alexms1@comcast.net)
    11. 08:41 AM - Corvair College in New England (Hodgson, Mark O)
    12. 09:13 AM - Re: started some covering (Steve Eldredge)
    13. 11:35 AM - Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! (Carl Vought)
    14. 11:42 AM - Re: HVLP reccomendations (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
    15. 12:16 PM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (walt evans)
    16. 12:17 PM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (walt evans)
    17. 03:59 PM - Re: Corvair College in New England (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    18. 05:18 PM - Re: HVLP reccomendations (PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com)
    19. 05:37 PM - Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! (alexms1@comcast.net)
    20. 06:19 PM - Re: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! (Rcaprd@aol.com)
    21. 06:43 PM - Steve Eldredge's Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
    22. 10:25 PM - Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:05:14 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    WAY TO GO, BERT!!! There's no feeling quite like it, is there? Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bert Conoly Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! Well, I finally got to fly my plane today. I struggled since 1995. I wrestled with the FAA (and they turned out to be great, by the way) - I've wrestled with the wind and cold weather for over a month. I got to fly her twice this afternoon. No surprises. She flew hands off (but how would i know, I was pretty busy hanging on!) I'll admit it's a bit overwhelming. How truly amazing - I'll repeat it - AMAZING! - to break ground in a plane you built from sticks, plywood, fabric and pieces of metal. You and your family lived every single up and down for over 9 years. You worked almost every spare hour you could give up. You spent every single surplus dollar you had. You answered and explained and described and defended and discussed and cussed and dreamed and did without and prayed that that sucker would work - someday. Over and over and over and over and over again. And it did. It did! How TRULY amazing. You guys that are still building.... DO NOT QUIT! I promise you - it's a life altering event. I'll post some pictures in the next few days..... Now. Get back to the shop and get TO WORK!!!! bert in Florida!


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    Time: 03:07:19 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: HVLP reccomendations
    I bought an axis HVLP system to spray the expensive Aerothane polyurethane paint. I wouldn't recommend it. By a cheap spray gun and use PolyTone, rather than Aerothane. Repairs are much easier and the Aerothane is difficult to spray (at least with the HVLP setup) Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DJ Vegh Subject: Pietenpol-List: HVLP reccomendations Since Poly-Spray and color coats are in my future I am trying to figure out what type of equipment to buy for spraying. My dad want's me to buy an $800 Accuspray HVLP unit but I've heard some of the locals out here at the field say that a cheap Home Depot unit does just fine. I'd REALLY love to save the money I'd spend on an Accuspray and use that towards a transponder. Would a cheap HVLP unit get the job done? I'm not looking for glass smooth paint but I do want it to look somewhat good. DJ


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    Time: 05:13:44 AM PST US
    From: FTLovley@aol.com
    Subject: Re: started some covering
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: FTLovley@aol.com Usually Bernard just screwed a steel loop into the seat frame...later he attached that steel loop to the seat frame and then a steel strap from the loop to the bottom longeron under the seat. Forrest Lovley


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    Time: 05:16:38 AM PST US
    From: FTLovley@aol.com
    Subject: Re: started some covering
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: FTLovley@aol.com For the record...I'm not recommending that anyone stitch or not stitch their tail surfaces on their airplanes. I'm just correcting the statements made by people on this list concerning "rumors" about how Bernard really built his airplanes. Forrest Lovley Jordan MN


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    Time: 05:38:24 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    0E069F0D@comcast.net> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Bert-- THE fun has JUST begun !!!! Way to go !!!! Mike C.


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    Time: 06:55:50 AM PST US
    From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale!
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com> For some reason I have $20k stuck in my head when I look at those. I can't tell you where I got it though. There are two or three companies making small radials that are usually at OshKosh, I've spoken to them before and I don't remember an exact price, but I know they weren't cheap. Isn't someone on this list working on a Rotec powered Aircamper? Is it you Clif? Steve Ruse Dallas, TX Quoting Matt Lansford <lansford@rgv.rr.com>: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Matt Lansford" <lansford@rgv.rr.com> > > Anybody know how much those are? > > Matt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> > > > > And then there's Rotec...... > > > > http://www.rotecradialengines.com/ > > > > Clif > > > >


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    Time: 07:31:13 AM PST US
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> Nice work Bert, please post a picture of your masterpiece. I am now logging off and heading for the workshop too. Rick Holland On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:23:45 -0500, Bert Conoly <bconoly@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > Well, I finally got to fly my plane today. I struggled since 1995. I > wrestled with the FAA (and they turned out to be great, by the way) - I've > wrestled with the wind and cold weather for over a month. > > I got to fly her twice this afternoon. No surprises. She flew hands off > (but how would i know, I was pretty busy hanging on!) > > I'll admit it's a bit overwhelming. How truly amazing - I'll repeat it - > AMAZING! - to break ground in a plane you built from sticks, plywood, fabric > and pieces of metal. You and your family lived every single up and down for > over 9 years. You worked almost every spare hour you could give up. You > spent every single surplus dollar you had. You answered and explained and > described and defended and discussed and cussed and dreamed and did without > and prayed that that sucker would work - someday. Over and over and over and > over and over again. > > And it did. It did! > > How TRULY amazing. > > You guys that are still building.... DO NOT QUIT! I promise you - it's a > life altering event. > I'll post some pictures in the next few days..... > > Now. Get back to the shop and get TO WORK!!!! > > bert in Florida! > -- Rick Holland


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    Time: 08:00:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    From: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu> Congratulations, Bert! If you can rack up 40 hours on it by April 12 you could fly it to Sun 'n Fun . . .just kidding! (although it would be great to see it) Mark Hodgson


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    Time: 08:05:41 AM PST US
    From: alexms1@comcast.net
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    Congratulations Bert. It is so good to read great reports. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- Well, I finally got to fly my plane today. I struggled since 1995. I wrestled with the FAA (and they turned out to be great, by the way) - I've wrestled with the wind and cold weather for over a month. I got to fly her twice this afternoon. No surprises. She flew hands off (but how would i know, I was pretty busy hanging on!) I'll admit it's a bit overwhelming. How truly amazing - I'll repeat it - AMAZING! - to break ground in a plane you built from sticks, plywood, fabric and pieces of metal. You and your family lived every single up and down for over 9 years. You worked almost every spare hour you could give up. You spent every single surplus dollar you had. You answered and explained and described and defended and discussed and cussed and dreamed and did without and prayed that that sucker would work - someday. Over and over and over and over and over again. And it did. It did! How TRULY amazing. You guys that are still building.... DO NOT QUIT! I promise you - it's a life altering event. I'll post some pictures in the next few days..... Now. Get back to the shop and get TO WORK!!!! bert in Florida! Congratulations Bert. It is so good to read great reports. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1479" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> Well, I finally got to fly my plane today. I struggled since 1995. I wrestled with the FAA (and they turned out to be great, by the way) -I've wrestled with the wind and cold weather for over a month. I got to fly her twice this afternoon. No surprises. She flew hands off (but how would i know, I was pretty busy hanging on!) I'll admit it's a bit overwhelming. How truly amazing - I'll repeat it - AMAZING! -to break ground in a plane you built from sticks, plywood,fabric and pieces of metal. You and your family lived every single up and down for over 9 years. You worked almost every spare hour you could give up. You spent every single surplus dollar you had. You answered and explained and described and defended and discussed and cussed and dreamed and did without and prayed that that sucker would work - someday. Over and over and over and over and over again. And it did. It did! How TRULY amazing. You guys that are still building.... DO NOT QUIT! I promise you - it's a life altering event. I'll post some pictures in the next few days..... Now. Get back to the shop and get TO WORK!!!! bert in Florida!


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    Time: 08:16:18 AM PST US
    From: alexms1@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale!
    Carl, For the "What it is worth" department, one of our chapter members, Jim Thompson, bought one of Herefords engines for his Nieuport over 10 years ago. He got no support and it is still not running. He is getting help from one of the chapter members who is an engine guru. I would suggest any one thinking about that radial, give Jim Thompson a call first. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" > > Do you think you could get interested in a kit engine??? There is a kit of > castings for a 7-cylinder and a 5-cylinder available under the name of HCI, > which was designed by Jack Hereford of New Haven, MO. He advertises in > "machinist's Workshop" magazine.The cylinders and pistons are VW. There's at > least one at Brodhead..maybe more. You'd have to talk to Jack Hereford about > kit contents and cost.....Carl Vought----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Ruse" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:57 AM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" > > > > > Wow...neat plane. The only thing I would be afraid of is the cost to keep > > the radial engine going. From my (very limited) experience, they are > > anything but cheap, especially when they are rare. Does anyone here know > > much about the Lambert radial? > > > > Steve Ruse > > Dallas, TX > > > > do not archive > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt > > Lansford > > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:04 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Matt Lansford" > > > > > Check it out! http://www.texasairmuseum.com/pietenpol/index.htm > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carl, For the "What it is worth" department, one of our chapter members, Jim Thompson, bought one of Herefords engines for his Nieuport over 10 years ago. He got no support and it is still not running. He is getting help from one of the chapter members who is an engine guru. I would suggest any one thinking about that radial, give Jim Thompson a call first. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- -- Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" <CARBARVO@KNOLOGY.NET> Do you think you could get interested in a kit engine??? There is a kit of castings for a 7-cylinder and a 5-cylinder available under the name of HCI, which was designed by Jack Hereford of New Haven, MO. He advertises in "machinist's Workshop" magazine.The cylinders and pistons are VW. There's at least one at Brodhead..maybe more. You'd have to talk to Jack Hereford about kit contents and cost.....Carl Vought----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ruse" <STEVE@WOTELECTRONICS.COM> To: <PIETENPOL-LIST@MATRONICS.COM> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:57 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! -- Pieten pol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" <STEVE@WOTELECTRONICS.COM> Wow...neat plane. The only thing I would be afraid of is the cost to keep the radial engine going. From my (very limited) experience, they are anything but cheap, especially when they are rare. Does anyone here know much about the Lambert radial? Steve Ruse Dallas, TX do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt Lansford Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:04 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! -- Pietenpol-List message posted by:


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    Time: 08:41:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Corvair College in New England
    From: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu>
    <zenith-list@matronics.com> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu> Hi Corvair people, I'm interested in getting a Corvair College going at the EAA 106 hangar in Lawrence, Mass. (about 45 car-minutes north of Boston) sometime in September or October. Anyone interested in attending should send me an e-mail--I'd like to have enough possible attendees to persuade William Wynne that it would be worth it; he's never done one in the Northeast and has some interest in the idea but needs convincing. We have the facility and an active EAA chapter, and it's a great place to visit even if you're not a Sox or Pats fan! Mark Hodgson mhodgson@bu.edu P.S. Please keep "Corvair College" in the subject header to avoid spamicide.


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    Time: 09:13:52 AM PST US
    Subject: started some covering
    From: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
    I hauled mine into the living room. Set it on two chairs and suspended it with bungee cords from the ceiling fan and went at it. Two days with the help of my wife. Made for a cool conversation piece. Stevee ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Vought Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: started some covering I did something very similar. The wing was stood on its nose in a little rack made for the purpose (padded, same shape as the L/E). Next, I made 15 needles out of welding rod, punched all the holes. I ran all the needles through the holes on each rib and used a "starting knot" at each site (this is approved by Stitts). As each rib was finished, I moved on to the next one. I stitched the tail feathers simply because they are stitched on the J-3.....Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- From: hjarrett <mailto:hjarrett@hroads.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: started some covering Guys, Rib stitching can be REALLY hard on the back, even when you put the wing vertical. There IS a trick that makes it MUCH faster and easier. First lay out where all the holes are going to be on each side of each rib by punching a hole with the needle (ALL the holes on both sides of the wing). You can get them really straight by snapping a line and they look REALLY professional that way. Next you get one needle for EACH RIB. Sit on a rolling chair and look through one hole to place the needle through the opposite side hole one rib after another. All you do is roll down the wing till you have the needles all through to the other side. Roll around to the other side and pull the needle through each one and pass it back the same way on the other side of the rib. Roll around the first side, tie the knot and pass the needles through for the next stitch. By repeating the needle motions over and over you save a TON of time walking around and your back stays comfortable in the chair. When you have done a few rows of stitches it is time to hoist the wing higher so the stitches are at eye level again (I hung my wing from pulleys from the hangar roof joist and moving it lets you stretch ever 10 minutes or so). Using this method (if I remembered all the steps) you will save DAYS and end up making you much nicer to your dog and wife when you get home. With a moderately bright light (a couple or three 40 watt bulbs spaced across each side) it is easy to pass the needle through and you don't need help from a second person. The cost of the extra needles is well worth it and I'm sure we could pass them on to the next guy to recover some cost if you are a Scott like me. Hank J ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack <mailto:jphillip@alarismed.com> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: started some covering When I covered my wings, I did the rib-stitching by myself, with the wing laying flat on two sawhorses. Did the left wing in 12 hours of solid work, with breaks just for eating and nature calls. Next day I could hardly move, from all the ducking under the wing and maneuvering the needle. When it came time to do the right wing, I spaced the work out over a week and found it much more comfortable. It would have been great to have a helper and stand the wing up vertically. Jack -----Original Message----- I found that when it came to rib stitching the wings it went really quickly with a good helper/ assistant/ partner. I was fortunate in that I was able to recruit my wife . We set the wing up on edge with one of us on each side. Towards the end we were doing a rib in 15 minutes and we were still speaking to each other. Now the first rib took a lot longer (about an hour). I used the poly fiber system too. Les


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    Time: 11:35:22 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
    Subject: Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale!
    I know Jack Hereford well and although I do not question your veracity at all, what you're saying goes against everything I know about him. He's one of the smartest and most honest men I've ever known. Surely there's some explanation for it. Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- From: alexms1@comcast.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! Carl, For the "What it is worth" department, one of our chapter members, Jim Thompson, bought one of Herefords engines for his Nieuport over 10 years ago. He got no support and it is still not running. He is getting help from one of the chapter members who is an engine guru. I would suggest any one thinking about that radial, give Jim Thompson a call first. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" > > Do you think you could get interested in a kit engine??? There is a kit of > castings for a 7-cylinder and a 5-cylinder available under the name of HCI, > which was designed by Jack Hereford of New Haven, MO. He advertises in > "machinist's Workshop" magazine.The cylinders and pistons are VW. There's at > least one at Brodhead..maybe more. You'd have to talk to Jack Hereford about > kit contents and cost.....Carl Vought----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Ruse" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:57 AM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! > > > > --> Pieten pol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" > > > > > Wow...neat plane. The only thing I would be afraid of is the cost to keep > > the radial engine going. From my (very limited) experience, they are > > anything but cheap, especially when they are rare. Does anyone here know > > much about the Lambert radial? > > > > Steve Ruse > > Dallas, TX > > > > do not archive > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt > > Lansford > > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:04 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by:


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    Time: 11:42:56 AM PST US
    From: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
    Subject: HVLP reccomendations
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net> I bought an off the shelf HVLP for $80 at Home Depot, sprayed at 35 psi at the compressor and expect got 10-15 psi after 30' of hose and letdown in pressure that comes with pulling the trigger. The sprayer has a top gravity feed (which I love, compared to siphon), very easy clean up. Just finished putting on the automotive paint (duPont), with plasticizer Bulldog added to keep it flexible. Polyurethane/acrylic paint with curative. Piete took exactly one gallon of paint, 1 qt of reducer solvent, 1 pt. of isocyanante curative, 1 pt. of Bulldog additive. Total $180, and I still have 3/4 gal of reducer plus 1/2 qrt bulldog left over. The Stits polyspry went on with a run and dryed quickly. The HVLP has very little overspray, and lost material when you set the pressure at 10 psi at the gun as recommended, if you use too much pressure it will overspray like the siphon types. I cannot see buying a sprayer costing 10x more. Good luck Gordon Bowen N-1033B Quasi-Piete Original Message: ----------------- From: DJ Vegh djv@imagedv.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: HVLP reccomendations Since Poly-Spray and color coats are in my future I am trying to figure out what type of equipment to buy for spraying. My dad want's me to buy an $800 Accuspray HVLP unit but I've heard some of the locals out here at the field say that a cheap Home Depot unit does just fine. I'd REALLY love to save the money I'd spend on an Accuspray and use that towards a transponder. Would a cheap HVLP unit get the job done? I'm not looking for glass smooth paint but I do want it to look somewhat good. DJ


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    Time: 12:16:27 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    Bert, Yeah, isn't it great!!! Something that you have to experience for yourself. Even though there is nothing like the very first flight, the next couple hundred will be a kick too. Good luck with it and safe flying. Ain't life grand! walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Bert Conoly To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! Well, I finally got to fly my plane today. I struggled since 1995. I wrestled with the FAA (and they turned out to be great, by the way) - I've wrestled with the wind and cold weather for over a month. I got to fly her twice this afternoon. No surprises. She flew hands off (but how would i know, I was pretty busy hanging on!) I'll admit it's a bit overwhelming. How truly amazing - I'll repeat it - AMAZING! - to break ground in a plane you built from sticks, plywood, fabric and pieces of metal. You and your family lived every single up and down for over 9 years. You worked almost every spare hour you could give up. You spent every single surplus dollar you had. You answered and explained and described and defended and discussed and cussed and dreamed and did without and prayed that that sucker would work - someday. Over and over and over and over and over again. And it did. It did! How TRULY amazing. You guys that are still building.... DO NOT QUIT! I promise you - it's a life altering event. I'll post some pictures in the next few days..... Now. Get back to the shop and get TO WORK!!!! bert in Florida!


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    Time: 12:17:49 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    Bert, Just curious,,,do you have to fly off 25 hours or 40 hours? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Bert Conoly To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!! Well, I finally got to fly my plane today. I struggled since 1995. I wrestled with the FAA (and they turned out to be great, by the way) - I've wrestled with the wind and cold weather for over a month. I got to fly her twice this afternoon. No surprises. She flew hands off (but how would i know, I was pretty busy hanging on!) I'll admit it's a bit overwhelming. How truly amazing - I'll repeat it - AMAZING! - to break ground in a plane you built from sticks, plywood, fabric and pieces of metal. You and your family lived every single up and down for over 9 years. You worked almost every spare hour you could give up. You spent every single surplus dollar you had. You answered and explained and described and defended and discussed and cussed and dreamed and did without and prayed that that sucker would work - someday. Over and over and over and over and over again. And it did. It did! How TRULY amazing. You guys that are still building.... DO NOT QUIT! I promise you - it's a life altering event. I'll post some pictures in the next few days..... Now. Get back to the shop and get TO WORK!!!! bert in Florida!


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    Time: 03:59:23 PM PST US
    From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Corvair College in New England
    <zenith-list@matronics.com>, "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> At 11:36 AM -0500 2/8/05, Hodgson, Mark O wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu> > >Hi Corvair people, > >I'm interested in getting a Corvair College going at the EAA 106 hangar >in Lawrence, Mass. (about 45 car-minutes north of Boston) sometime in >September or October. Anyone interested in attending should send me an >e-mail--I'd like to have enough possible attendees to persuade William >Wynne that it would be worth it; he's never done one in the Northeast >and has some interest in the idea but needs convincing. We have the >facility and an active EAA chapter, and it's a great place to visit even >if you're not a Sox or Pats fan! > >Mark Hodgson >mhodgson@bu.edu > >P.S. Please keep "Corvair College" in the subject header to avoid >spamicide. Hi Mark, I hope I'm not raining on your parade, but William & I will be finalizing plans for this year's Ohio Corvair College when he is here this weekend to do his "Night School". My EAA Chapter would prefer to have it in early summer, but my in my initial conversations with William last mnoth, he said that he would probably have to opt for late August or early Fall some time, since their big push over the next few months is going to be to get a backlog of parts built up & also finish the Corvair TriMotor project. I'm definitely not saying don't go for it, but you may have to convince him to work around what we're already planning. I'll be putting the word out about the OH Corvair College once we have the dates nailed down. Also, Congratulations BERT! It's great to hear that one more has taken to the skies. Hope to see you at Brodhead sometime. Cheers! Kip Gardner -- North Canton, OH


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    Time: 05:18:21 PM PST US
    From: PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com
    Subject: Re: HVLP reccomendations
    Re: HVLP I used a $200 Campbell Hauschild HVLP rig with an extra 15' of hose per Stits reccomendation. It worked fine and was quie econamical on material. It is the kind with a suction feed and the hose is 1" flex hose like a vacuum cleaner. Can also check Harbor Freight for HVLP units at decent prices. Regards, Lou Larsen (still fussing with my A engine)


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    Time: 05:37:27 PM PST US
    From: alexms1@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale!
    Carl, Tell that to the Rev Jim Thompson. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- I know Jack Hereford well and although I do not question your veracity at all, what you're saying goes against everything I know about him. He's one of the smartest and most honest men I've ever known. Surely there's some explanation for it. Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- From: alexms1@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! Carl, For the "What it is worth" department, one of our chapter members, Jim Thompson, bought one of Herefords engines for his Nieuport over 10 years ago. He got no support and it is still not running. He is getting help from one of the chapter members who is an engine guru. I would suggest any one thinking about that radial, give Jim Thompson a call first. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" > > Do you think you could get interested in a kit engine??? There is a kit of > castings for a 7-cylinder and a 5-cylinder available under the name of HCI, > which was designed by Jack Hereford of New Haven, MO. He advertises in > "machinist's Workshop" magazine.The cylinders and pistons are VW. There's at > least one at Brodhead..maybe more. You'd have to talk to Jack Hereford about > kit contents and cost.....Carl Vought----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Ruse" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:57 AM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! > > > > --> Pieten pol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" > > > > > Wow...neat plane. The only thing I would be afraid of is the cost to keep > > the radial engine going. From my (very limited) experience, they are > > anything but cheap, especially when they are rare. Does anyone here know > > much about the Lambert radial? > > > > Steve Ruse > > Dallas, TX > > > > do not archive > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt > > Lansford > > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:04 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carl, Tell that to the Rev Jim Thompson. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1476" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> I know Jack Hereford well and although I do not question your veracity at all,what you're saying goes against everything I know about him. He's one of the smartest and most honest men I've ever known. Surely there's some explanation for it. Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- From: <A title=alexms1@comcast.net ">alexms1@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! Carl, For the "What it is worth" department, one of our chapter members, Jim Thompson, bought one of Herefords engines for his Nieuport over 10 years ago. He got no support and it is still not running. He is getting help from one of the chapter members who is an engine guru. I would suggest any one thinking about that radial, give Jim Thompson a call first. Alex Sloan -------------- Original message -------------- -- Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" <CARBARVO@KNOLOGY.NET> Do you think you could get interested in a kit engine??? There is a kit of castings for a 7-cylinder and a 5-cylinder available under the name of HCI, which was designed by Jack Hereford of New Haven, MO. He advertises in "machinist's Workshop" magazine.The cylinders and pistons are VW. There's at least one at Brodhead..maybe more. You'd have to talk to Jack Hereford about kit contents and cost.....Carl Vought----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ruse" <STEVE@WOTELECTRONICS.COM> To: <PIETENPOL-LIST@MATRONICS.COM> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:57 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! -- Pieten pol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse" <STEVE@WOTELECTRONICS.COM> Wow...neat plane. The only thing I would be afraid of is the cost to keep the radial engine going. From my (very limited) experience, they are anything but cheap, especially when they are rare. Does anyone here know much about the Lambert radial? Steve Ruse Dallas, TX do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt Lansford Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:04 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Der Faker Fokker is for sale! -- Pietenpol-List message posted by :


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    Time: 06:19:28 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re:I FINALLY got to fly N327BC!!!!
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 2/7/05 10:24:37 PM Central Standard Time, bconoly@earthlink.net writes: << I got to fly her twice this afternoon. No surprises. She flew hands off (but how would i know, I was pretty busy hanging on!) I'll admit it's a bit overwhelming. How truly amazing - I'll repeat it - AMAZING! - to break ground in a plane you built from sticks, plywood, fabric and pieces of metal. >> Bert, Allow me to offer my Congratulations...and a Big YEEEEE HAAAAAAWW !! Chuck G.


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    Time: 06:43:48 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Steve Eldredge's Piet
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Someone was asking about Piets in Utah the other day and Steve E. piped up since he's located in Utah. He also piped up (chimed in?) when the discussion turned to using latex house paint. In case anyone wants to know what Steve's plane looks like, it's the "poster child" that the host of our list (Matronics) uses, for example at: http://www.matronics.com/pietenpol-list/index.htm I've always liked the paint scheme that Steve used (British racing green fuselage, silver wings, nose, and fuselage top). And the "Aircamper" logo, and that big "E" on the tail... Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 10:25:58 PM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Der Faker Fokker is for sale!
    <004001c50d63$8ea182c0$284fd618@knology.net> <00c001c50da5$928f7fd0$d2705118@dawsonaviation> <001101c50db0$f1799750$eed1af18@hal> <1107874208.4208d1a06421b@www.wotelectronics.com> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> Ain't me but I remember that rumour too. There was one around here that flew many years with a Jake on the nose. I'm not sure about the plane but the engine is now on Vancouver Island, well Saltspring Island to be more accurate. The owner is also newly flying a Piet with a model B on its nose. It resides under a pair of Stranraer tip floats. There's some great stories about THOSE planes around this coast. :-) :-) Clif > > Isn't someone on this list working on a Rotec powered Aircamper? Is it you > Clif? > > Steve Ruse > Dallas, TX >




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